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Is there anyway to downgrade to Safari 14?
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Unless you can find a copy of Safari v14.x somewhere or have a clone saved to HDD or SSD, reloading the OS is the only way? Better yet, find a different browser. I've been on Brave the last few weeks and like it a lot.
Following. Safari 15 looks like the best that 1995 windows interface design could pull off. WTH.
Who's (asleep) at the interface design wheel at Apple nowadays?
Who's (asleep) at the interface design wheel at Apple nowadays?
I have 14.1 on TimeMachine, but can't use it to replace 15.
Finder won't allow Safari 15 to be deleted either. I have 14 on another disk.
I'd rather not change since iCloud "sharing" of pages is handy. And Bookmarks are saved for all my devices.
Finder won't allow Safari 15 to be deleted either. I have 14 on another disk.
I'd rather not change since iCloud "sharing" of pages is handy. And Bookmarks are saved for all my devices.
I was able to downgrade from Safari 15 to Safari 14.1.2 by downloading and installing the full 12.6 GB macOS Big Sur installer from the Mac App Store. Be careful because Apple will offer you the Safari 15 update if you have Check for Updates turned on in System Preferences. Just uncheck the box to make sure you don't reinstall Safari 15.
Update: After going back to 14.1.2 I think I will avoid upgrading to macOS Monterey just to avoid being forced to use Safari 15.
Update: After going back to 14.1.2 I think I will avoid upgrading to macOS Monterey just to avoid being forced to use Safari 15.
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I don't mind how Safari 15 looks, or the UI refinements. But almost every website seems to trigger the warning a tab is using too many resources and was reloaded. I can't load user comments on some websites without the page reloading immediately, thus wiping out the comments I was trying to read. All other browsers I test have none of these issues (Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Brave).
Safari 15 seems to behave/perform as if my system has 1GB of RAM. It's absolute trash, in my opinion, in its current state. A horrible, horrible user experience.
Safari 15 seems to behave/perform as if my system has 1GB of RAM. It's absolute trash, in my opinion, in its current state. A horrible, horrible user experience.
Just installed the 15.1 beta of Safari, seems like the bookmark for youtube videos is still not resolved..
If I recall correctly, Safari 14 was supplied as part of OS 11.6 while Safari 15 is installed 'on top'. It should therefore be possible to remove the Safari 15 files from the Data volume, causing the OS to fall back to the System volume.
As for how to do this though, not a clue.
As for how to do this though, not a clue.
This sounds like a fun weekend project for you to tackle.
Let us know when you've figured it all out, so we can follow the recipe.Installed Safari 15.1 beta 2. YouTube still crashing.
Safari 14 worked perfectly. Don't remember a single crash.
What's notable Safari 15 crashed one or two times even when I tried to bookmark www.apple.com via cmd + D.
Rant incoming:
Honestly, this feels like a joke. Safari 15.0 is a stable and final version (should be at least). It even installs automatically if your set your Mac to update on auto.
Yet, open YouTube -> cmd + D = crash.
I mean surely somebody at Apple noticed this.
FWIW, you can downgrade to Safari 14. You just have to download +12GB macOS Big Sur installer and basically reinstall the whole OS.
Like why the heck I can't download Safari14.dmg and just downgrade?
Or it's been a couple weeks since release Safari 15 and even the latest beta still hasn't fixed this bug (though I heard Developer Preview is working OK). If this was Chrome/Edge/Firefox I think they would have fixed this bug by now.
Yeah, I know, it's not a big deal. I bought +1000USD dollar laptop which works perfectly and complain about a bug which (hopefully) will be fixed in month or two.
But Apple, if you release a Safari update which crashes your browser all the time on one of the most popular websites just give us an easy option to downgrade (without reinstalling the whole OS) at least. It's not that hard is it?
End of rant.
Safari 14 worked perfectly. Don't remember a single crash.
What's notable Safari 15 crashed one or two times even when I tried to bookmark www.apple.com via cmd + D.
Rant incoming:
Honestly, this feels like a joke. Safari 15.0 is a stable and final version (should be at least). It even installs automatically if your set your Mac to update on auto.
Yet, open YouTube -> cmd + D = crash.
I mean surely somebody at Apple noticed this.
FWIW, you can downgrade to Safari 14. You just have to download +12GB macOS Big Sur installer and basically reinstall the whole OS.
Like why the heck I can't download Safari14.dmg and just downgrade?
Or it's been a couple weeks since release Safari 15 and even the latest beta still hasn't fixed this bug (though I heard Developer Preview is working OK). If this was Chrome/Edge/Firefox I think they would have fixed this bug by now.
Yeah, I know, it's not a big deal. I bought +1000USD dollar laptop which works perfectly and complain about a bug which (hopefully) will be fixed in month or two.
But Apple, if you release a Safari update which crashes your browser all the time on one of the most popular websites just give us an easy option to downgrade (without reinstalling the whole OS) at least. It's not that hard is it?
End of rant.
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Possibly...This sounds like a fun weekend project for you to tackle.
But first of all, does anyone know where I can get the Safari 15 installer from? I want to look inside it and figure out which files go where.
Create a USB installer for Catalina. Install Catalina to an external drive. Boot Catalina once you set it up. You may have to download the Safari installer (v15) from Apple as part of the upgrade process. There you have it. A lot of hoops to jump through, yes, but you'll end up getting what you are looking for.
After poking around with SUS Inspector, it appears that http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...o83rn5fd5fh7xeb694yb/Safari15.0BigSurAuto.pkg is the one.
MacUpdate keeps old versions of Safari around. You might try deleting 15 and downloading 14.1.2 from them.
Old Versions of Safari
Old Versions of Safari
I'd run a malware check on the file(s) you want... no telling where or what was messed with...
I don't want Safari 15 because it can't reliably open links in a new tab. I'm so pissed because I'm using it for work and Apple released an update with a major reliability issue.
Maybe I just experienced the same thing. Links worked okay for a week or so. But then after a while any new tabs opened by links on web pages would immediately jump back to the designated Start Page. I found that changing General Preferences in Safari to New tabs open with: "Empty Page" cured the problem.
Tried Safari 15.0 running on Intel iMac at the shopping center.
Works fine when creating a YouTube bookmark.
Oh, well.
Works fine when creating a YouTube bookmark.
Oh, well.
Works correctly on my Intel machine too.
As for this, I think I've given up. I've been able to find a list of all the files that get installed as part of the update, but it's not letting me delete them even with sudo. So I can create the files using my own account but can't delete them again? (and yes, I'm definitely in the Data volume, not System)...
Seems to be faster now, but the Youtube bug is still there on the latest beta.
It's been almost a month since Apple released Safari 15.0...
Yeah, not going to upgrade to macOS Monterey on day one considering how buggy new Safari is
It's been almost a month since Apple released Safari 15.0...
Yeah, not going to upgrade to macOS Monterey on day one considering how buggy new Safari is
Decided to downgrade Safari by re-installing MacOS, didn't lose any data so its all good, just a re-install of the OS !