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is this a bad time to buy my first mac?

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pedro nicoli

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Jul 2, 2006
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I was wondering...
since Apple changed to intel, i head nothing but problems.
Mac Intels are out for how long now? 6 months or more, right?
there's almost none software running native on the intel , except for a few wich i realy dont care about. ( i use photoshop 100% of the time)
Changing a processor is a huge step, and the softwares are facing a hard time running on intel.
Even so, intel is about to reselase the new 64bit processors.

Don't you think that we should await for the 64bits era? I mean, we are living in a transition age. Apple is now seting lower prices for theirs computers in an effort to gain market share. this move will completely change the market cos now ordinary consumers can buy a Mac easily.
maybe Apple will lose it's "magic", and just become another brand, intead of the "out of the box" brand power.

For the first time ever we see apple using integrated graphics, running windows, having a lot of build quality issues and so on...
what can we expect now?
I realy would like to but a Mac, but I guess i'll wait 6 more months, or more, until things calm down, and the company get in tracks again...
 
pedro nicoli said:
please give your thoughs instead of useless coments
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Mmm, that's a good way to get me to explain why I said that. Don't think I will take the time now. Learn some manners.
 
Depending on what you are using it gor...I believe now is as good as ever. If you are using programs that haven't been converted to Universal...you might want to wait. But for what the Macbook is touted for...iLife, Mail, Safari...than it's a great time.
 
pedro nicoli said:
this is suposed to help
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NetDog was helping you. You wanted to know if it was a good time to buy a Mac, and he answered you.

The manners, or rather lack of manners, some of you have.
 
pedro nicoli said:
please add something to the discussion, or dont post
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LMAO.. I'll add that you're coming across incredibly rude- I know that's not the "help" you were looking for, but trust me, it's the help you NEED... Take it to heart...
 
yes it is a good time since you don't have tons of software you bought for the older macs.
 
No, this is the worst possible time to buy a Mac.

If you really want to switch however, it probably is the best time to get a previous generation PowerPC based Mac for cheap. The new intel ones are just too ridden with issues. I wouldn't recommend them to my worst enemy (except for the Mini, and the iMac, which do seem somewhat ok)
 
jemeinc said:
LMAO..
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Do you know what Mao is?

It is "hair" in chinese. So.. let's say L. stands for lower.

L. Hair... hmm, bringing your pubes into the discussion, do you even have any yet? You see, the rest of us adults are perfectly in tune with ours. Oh by the way, were you really laughing your ass off your chair when you composed that reply? Just because if you are.... you need better entertainment, seriously.

jemeinc said:
it's the help you NEED... Take it to heart...
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How is it help at all? So the OP comes here for advice, gets hit by a dash of fanboism, and intoxicated with the koolaid went out to get her own Mac without any form of awareness for the implications, and what next? We see another "My Macbook Pro whines OMFG" thread on these forums?

Thanks, but no thanks.

I'm a realist.
 
Apple's changing, but I don't think it's "like never before"- they always seem to be changing... IMO, for the better, but there's always some issues whenever any type of change occurs... This Intel move is no different.. I remember when Apple 1st went to OSX- that was a major change and at the time there were many skeptics.. Heck, I was skeptical and I HATED OS9.. Looking back I don't think you could find anyone who thinks it wasn't a good move, obviously.. The Intel transition is early in it's progress, so it will definitely get better, but that wouldn't stop me from buying an Intel based Mac if I needed a new comp. right now... I say wait a little bit if you can, if not go for it...
 
generik said:
How is it help at all? So the OP comes here for advice, gets hit by a dash of fanboism, and intoxicated with the koolaid went out to get her own Mac without any form of awareness for the implications, and what next? We see another "My Macbook Pro whines OMFG" thread on these forums?

Thanks, but no thanks.

I'm a realist.
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It was 1 post... Hardly a "dash".. It didn't require the rudeness that was fired back.. There's no need to be rude at the drop of a hat.. There's enough rudeness in this world, and we could all learn a little patience.. Just a little simple lesson that sometimes gets forgotten in the daily grind.. Have yourself a wonderful day, and I'll be sure to do the same..
 
jemeinc said:
Apple's changing, but I don't think it's "like never before"- they always seem to be changing... IMO, for the better, but there's always some issues whenever any type of change occurs... This Intel move is no different.. I remember when Apple 1st went to OSX- that was a major change and at the time there were many skeptics.. Heck, I was skeptical and I HATED OS9.. Looking back I don't think you could find anyone who thinks it wasn't a good move, obviously.. The Intel transition is early in it's progress, so it will definitely get better, but that wouldn't stop me from buying an Intel based Mac if I needed a new comp. right now... I say wait a little bit if you can, if not go for it...
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The unfortunate situtation we have here currently is.. for the most part, software wise the intel switchover does not represent much of the issues users face with their new computers.

Sure, Rosetta runs like a dog sometimes, but Microsoft Office works ridiculously well if you actually pause to consider what really goes on underneath the hood.

What really baffles me is how Apple, which used to probably have their own inhouse pool of people designing their own little custom PowerPC mainboards and components (since the rest of the world don't really use it), can manage to do a relatively fine job out of it.. and come the Intel switch and inspite of the great pool of talent, bungle it so badly.

It genuinely boggles the mind.

Even Dell can make laptops that doesn't heat up so much to drive battery bloating to the point of near explosion.
 
netdog said:
There has never been a better time to buy a Mac.
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I agree with you netdog- now is a great time to buy a Mac. I just bought a 2GHz MacBook Pro and I have not had one problem with it- it is by far the best laptop computer that I have ever used! :D


But for your uses pedro nicoli (mainly photoshop), consider scooping up a PowerPC based Mac (all the G5 chips are 64 bit). :)
 
I think it's an ok time to switch. Not a bad time, not a great time. Since it's your first Mac, you might have higher expectations. The Intel Mac's are not quite as shaky as when they were first introduced, but I think they're still a little unstable. Not unstable in the OS sense, but maybe just overall, with some of the issues some of them seem to be having.

If you want/need a Mac, I'd say wait till after WWDC and go for it.
 
pedro nicoli said:
there's almost none software running native on the intel , except for a few wich i realy dont care about. ( i use photoshop 100% of the time)
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Almost none software? There are 2528
universal applications at the moment. Not caring about them is another story.:cool:
 
buying a power PC would be a safe choice...but,,,in a while i guess we will have the oposite problem...soft not working so good on a power Pc as it would on a Intel....(i wonder if this will happen to Photoshop CS3)
 
IMO it's actually not a great time to switch.
Macbook Pro - due to be updated within 2 months I'd guess
Macbook - too many bugs
Powermac - due to be replaced by mac pro soon
imac - due for an update
mac mini - underpowered/overpriced

Only the macbook jumps out at me as a good value (and not due to be updated soon), but as it's had so many QC issues (taking mine to the apple store in 10 minutes for whine, moo, and discoloration) I'd actually hold off for a while on even a MB.
 
Now is an awesome time to buy Macs, all of the Intel Macs I have worked with so far have been perfect. Of course, there are reports of issues with these first gens, but those are only from the people who have problems, as people with perfectly good machines have no reason to post. My mother's MacBook Pro has no whines or moos, and my friend's Intel iMac is also perfect and has many awesome features. Both machines are two of the best Macs I have ever used.

generik said:
What really baffles me is how Apple, which used to probably have their own inhouse pool of people designing their own little custom PowerPC mainboards and components (since the rest of the world don't really use it), can manage to do a relatively fine job out of it.. and come the Intel switch and inspite of the great pool of talent, bungle it so badly.
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Why are you even here? All I ever hear spew forth from your mouth is exaggerations of how bad Apple is, and how :confused: everybody should buy Dells running Ubuntu (LOL).

pedro nicoli said:
For the first time ever we see apple using integrated graphics, running windows, having a lot of build quality issues and so on...
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Integrated graphics were extremely common on Macs in the past, right up through the first PowerPC Macs. They shared system RAM and everything.

Apple does not sell, service, or support Microsoft Windows, and likely never will.

This is not the first time there have been build quality issues. The PowerBook 5300/190 power adapter and battery explosions, the Power Mac 5200 (every part of it), the Apple III unseated RAM, the PowerBook 500 hinges, the PowerBook G3 13" screen failures, the PowerBook Duo keyboards (six revisions and still didn't get it right!) - these are all examples of Apple's ability to make poor quality products. Every era has poor products, this is nothing new.

EDIT: Also the G3 B&W hard drive problems, iMac G3 screen failures, PowerBook 1400 case cracking, PowerBook 3400c PMU board failures... I can go on and on. I can also come up with similar historical lists for every major brand. If you want to wait until any computer brand has all perfect product reviews and not one single complaint, you will be waiting forever.
 
dpaanlka said:
Both machines are two of the best Macs I have ever used.
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I am not surprised [1].


dpaanlka said:
Why are you even here? All I ever hear spew forth from your mouth is exaggerations of how bad Apple is, and how :confused: everybody should buy Dells running Ubuntu (LOL).
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You know you don't really have an argument when all you can do is regurgitate your opponent's point and make a nervous chuckle, LOL

dpaanlka said:
This is not the first time there have been build quality issues. The PowerBook 5300/190 power adapter and battery explosions, the Power Mac 5200 (every part of it), the Apple III unseated RAM, the PowerBook 500 hinges, the PowerBook G3 13" screen failures, the PowerBook Duo keyboards (six revisions and still didn't get it right!) - these are all examples of Apple's ability to make poor quality products. Every era has poor products, this is nothing new.
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Indeed, even a Hackintosh will be the best Mac you have ever owned. So your point is basically "Hey! It is a good time to buy Macs now! Look, in the past they had so many problems! The current crop of problems are nothing new. Apple always makes poor products! Come on! I don't want to feel alone in being a sucker, join me!"

Your post speaks for yourself.


dpaanlka said:
EDIT: Also the G3 B&W hard drive problems, iMac G3 screen failures, PowerBook 1400 case cracking, PowerBook 3400c PMU board failures... I can go on and on. I can also come up with similar historical lists for every major brand. If you want to wait until any computer brand has all perfect product reviews and not one single complaint, you will be waiting forever.
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Wow, more problems! I am convinced! Or I can just buy another Thinkpad and make it a Hackintosh!
 
For every one person that comes on here seeking advice or a place to bitch about their Mac, there will be 1000 others that are perfectly content. Don't use anything here other than good advice from helpful experienced members to base your purchase upon; otherwise you will be here forever.

If you want/need a computer, like the look of OS X, go for it. You have nothing to loose - if the hardware is fatly, Apple will replace it. If you don’t like OS X, install Windows and use that. It's all good in the land of Intel Mac.
 
I'm waiting for WWDC and will more then likely get a refurbished machine.

OH NOES! The people who are having problems with their computers are the most vocal? All brands have machines that fail. Why I must hate a brand after a bad machine and dozens of kind replacements. Rinse, repeat with next computer manufacturer.
 
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