Is this another reason to avoid Android?

[Wolfpup]

Even Samsung provides updates if the problem is serious. And even being up to date doesnt mean you are in secure...

I assume you meant secure? At any rate no, it doesn't mean you're invulnerable, but clearly it's mandatory in 2014. Maybe not in 1994, but today it is. Saying "well there are other dangers regardless!" is true but irrelevant. You're intentionally putting yourself at extreme risk with internet facing outdated software.

As for avoiding Android-not necessary at the moment. The nexus line exists. Nvidia's stuff is probably going to be kept up to date. Those Google Play edition devices might be okay (not sure how they've been and they just launched). The Moto X has been good but don't know how that'll go now that the Lenovo (blarg) bought them.

Regarding that last link, those claims were pretty nonsensical. They were undocumented stuff in iOS that doesn't affect security at all so far as anyone knows. It's for your PC to communicate with the iOS device, only if you've given it permission. That Apple didn't disclose every single way that's happening just means it's closed, not that it's inherently insecure.

I know Apple doesn't patch stuff nearly fast enough, but neither does Google (and then not if you're running some Samsung or the like like most people are) and neither does Microsoft on Windows Phone (though obviously Windows proper is kept up to date well).

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Thanks for the joke.

Yes. Security is a big joke.

 

[sc4rf4c3]

I assume you meant secure? At any rate no, it doesn't mean you're invulnerable, but clearly it's mandatory in 2014. Maybe not in 1994, but today it is. Saying "well there are other dangers regardless!" is true but irrelevant. You're intentionally putting yourself at extreme risk with internet facing outdated software.

As for avoiding Android-not necessary at the moment. The nexus line exists. Nvidia's stuff is probably going to be kept up to date. Those Google Play edition devices might be okay (not sure how they've been and they just launched). The Moto X has been good but don't know how that'll go now that the Lenovo (blarg) bought them.

Regarding that last link, those claims were pretty nonsensical. They were undocumented stuff in iOS that doesn't affect security at all so far as anyone knows. It's for your PC to communicate with the iOS device, only if you've given it permission. That Apple didn't disclose every single way that's happening just means it's closed, not that it's inherently insecure.

I know Apple doesn't patch stuff nearly fast enough, but neither does Google (and then not if you're running some Samsung or the like like most people are) and neither does Microsoft on Windows Phone (though obviously Windows proper is kept up to date well).

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Yes. Security is a big joke.

Yeah it's a joke if it's coming from somebody who doesn't have a clue or proof of what he is talking about.

 

[Wolfpup]

Yeah it's a joke if it's coming from somebody who doesn't have a clue or proof of what he is talking about.

*sigh*

What are you talking about?

It's immoral for you to advocate running insecure systems.

 

[sc4rf4c3]

*sigh*

What are you talking about?

It's immoral for you to advocate running insecure systems.

You said that it is dangerous to run outdated OS in 2014. My iPad 2 is still running iOS6. Does it mean it's not safe or you're just focusing on Samsung's 'year behind' OS update?

 

[Wolfpup]

You said that it is dangerous to run outdated OS in 2014. My iPad 2 is still running iOS6. Does it mean it's not safe or you're just focusing on Samsung's 'year behind' OS update?

Yes, of course it means it's not safe if you're using it on the Internet (baring only using it for "walled garden" type programs like Netflix and Nook...those are probably fine). You shouldn't be using it to browse the web or for email or the like though.

The iPad 2 supports iOS 7 BTW. They ruined podcast support in iOS 7, but otherwise it's fine.

 

[sc4rf4c3]

Yes, of course it means it's not safe if you're using it on the Internet (baring only using it for "walled garden" type programs like Netflix and Nook...those are probably fine). You shouldn't be using it to browse the web or for email or the like though.

The iPad 2 supports iOS 7 BTW. They ruined podcast support in iOS 7, but otherwise it's fine.

I am aware that the iPad 2 supports iOS7. I just prefer iOS6 over 7 for my old iPad 2. Can you provide a link that proves the bold statement?

 

[Wolfpup]

I am aware that the iPad 2 supports iOS7. I just prefer iOS6 over 7 for my old iPad 2. Can you provide a link that proves the bold statement?

This is not a "bold" statement, this is computer hygiene 101. If for some reason you don't believe me, look at all the things that get fixed in every OS update. Pay attention to security experts. Subscribe to security feeds.

 

[mrex]

I think sc4rf4c3 was asking for an explanation of the sentence that was bold in the quote.

 

[I7guy]

These things always get big headlines but seldom seem to have any real world impact. And as Lloydbm41 points out, iOS isn't without its share of security flaws either. Actually I've heard of more cases where iPhone users actually have any trouble because of security issues, like that recent iPhone hijacking business in Australia. I honestly wouldn't weigh this into the consideration of which platform to go for.

That Australia incident was more about social engineering.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

That's because it has already been proven that 99.9% of all Android malware is on 3rd party app stores or sideloaded apps from sketchy parts of the interwebs.
In fact, companies like 'Trend Micro' that try to sell their own garbage ware, likes to put out misleading info regarding Android. These guys were caught:
Link: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/07/26/trend-micro-opens-foot-inserts-mouth-after-falsely-claiming-that-the-play-store-is-full-of-malware/

The Play Store is as safe a place to download an app as the iOS app store is.

Thanks for that link - it's amazing how many people buy into fraudulent claims by AV companies and their "reports".

At one point one of these companies was including any app which required root as malware.

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This week's Security Now talks about it. Nothing to worry about most likely as it's been/being fixed.

Do people actually pay attention to Steve Gibson? He was considered a complete charlatan in the 90's and early 2000's. I'd be more than a bit embarrassed to admit to listening to that joker.