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Jay42

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Jul 14, 2005
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grapes911 said:
How do you propose to do that?

Just because you are streaming the audio doesn't mean the person on the other end is downloading the file. There are ways to download streaming audio, but I would presume that would be illegal on the part of the downloader. Or am I missing something?
 

clayj

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Jan 14, 2005
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Jay42 said:
Just because you are streaming the audio doesn't mean the person on the other end is downloading the file. There are ways to download streaming audio, but I would presume that would be illegal on the part of the downloader. Or am I missing something?
Functionally, there is NO difference between someone "downloading" the file and someone "streaming" the audio from the file... the net result in both cases is that the bits from the file are going to that person's machine. And if you don't hold the copyright on the content of that file, that's illegal.
 

madmax_2069

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Aug 17, 2005
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if you buy the mp3 or whatever and store it on the .mac but make it to where people cant dl them then your good. streaming and downloading is the same thing and will get you in to trouble
 

Makosuke

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Aug 15, 2001
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clayj said:
Functionally, there is NO difference between someone "downloading" the file and someone "streaming" the audio from the file... the net result in both cases is that the bits from the file are going to that person's machine.
Indeed. And, more specifically, the net result is that you have allowed someone in the public to listen to your song without you having a license to do that. You can stream audio--"internet radio"--without holding complete copyright to the audio, but there is a special licensing system in place specifically for that. Look it up on Google--there was a big court agreement a little while ago.

Going back to the rather silly example about the car, the reason you can get away with it is because the other listeners are incidental--you're playing it in what is considered a private location--same as listening to it at home--which you're licensed to do. Likewise, you can invite friends into your car or over to your house to listen to it--that's also within your established rights.

However, if you play that music in a public place with the intent of others hearing it--over a loudspeaker, in a restaurant, on the radio, over the internet, or at a movie theater--you're now publicly performing the piece, and in a whole new category that requires various specific rights (for example, if you have a restaurant, you can't just put on a random CD). Likewise, if you play it in a private location, but charge money to get into the performance, you're doing exactly what a theater does, and that's also a new category.

Technically even the car thing is probably illegal in some way but absolutely nobody is ever going to prosecute it unless you start charging for parking spaces next to you or something, just like a lot of small restaurants play music they're not supposed to but nobody really cares because, if nothing else, in most cases the copyright holder isn't even aware that the music is being "performed" "publicly".

I'm not a copyright lawyer, so I'm probably wrong about some of this, but it's pretty close at least. Stupid, also, but then a lot of laws are.

So in answer to the original question, like everybody is saying it's fine on your private iDisk and probably also within Apple's TOS, but put it on your publicly accessible space and it's likely illegal and almost certainly against the TOS in any case.
 

Chacala_Nayarit

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Oct 6, 2005
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Using Apple for hosting, yeah they could terminate your account. However, I am living in Mexico, and get away with what you gringos call illegal because some corporate power said it was.

In Mexico it's common to find pirated DVDs for 1.80USD w/case and jackets, just burned DVDs in the case. Same with music CDs. You could stream, have a Web site with downloads, as long as it's not hosted in America and you are lucky enough to live in an area with DSL, fiber optics, or cable modem Internet. Other logistical problems exist for ISPs in Mexico. One is you may be limited to low-speed DSL. Another problem (especially in the tropics) is the ISP going down, which can last for a few days or more. This is Mexico, and that's is just the way it is. :cool:
 
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