rosie.macEvans
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Most users will probably still buy them because they’re already locked into the Apple ecosystem and don’t easily switch. Price might make some think twice, but it won’t change habits for most people.
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Is this normal memory pressure for an M5 Pro chip?!
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Omega Mac
macrumors 6502a
There is a real organic yearning for and some move back to hand coded sites. These are so lit I wonder is there a very dedicated hosting solution for this type of web 1.0, maybe where you can have lots of sites for those who don't want to play around with nginx, as basic website is hardly anything in data load terms, especially if you're text only, and now we have webp image format!
I think primarily the complications comes from basically advertising.
Even though I run old macs I've noticed it's the web experience (and chronic multi tab disorder) that gives me that "I need a new machine" feeling or sense of need more power, more than anything especially the last 3 years. Installing some blockers like uBlock helps, there is more to be done but have no got around to it.
Omega Mac
macrumors 6502a
I had brief look at activity monitor and this one was the highest offenders in the moment
The archive version ot the site to avoid direct connecting - https://archive.is/4AdFm
uBlock was spitting out hundreds of blocks alerts, around 500+, and when I navigated back to it it jumped another 100/150 blocks, that's just one site!
I wonder what LinkedIn is like with uBlock turned on 🫣
The archive version ot the site to avoid direct connecting - https://archive.is/4AdFm
uBlock was spitting out hundreds of blocks alerts, around 500+, and when I navigated back to it it jumped another 100/150 blocks, that's just one site!
I wonder what LinkedIn is like with uBlock turned on 🫣
thejadedmonkey
macrumors G3
A basic and low-traffic site made from html files (and only html files) can be hosted on aws for pennies per year.
If you want interactivity, it's more, but it's still nowhere near as heavy as sites like LinkedIn. LinkedIn is particularly egregious as they monitor everything you do, down to mouse movement, on the site.
A modern website made using react or angular, but without all of the advertising SDKs and metric collections, is every bit as fast as an old school html site.
If you want interactivity, it's more, but it's still nowhere near as heavy as sites like LinkedIn. LinkedIn is particularly egregious as they monitor everything you do, down to mouse movement, on the site.
A modern website made using react or angular, but without all of the advertising SDKs and metric collections, is every bit as fast as an old school html site.
I am also wondering. I have no doubt that Safari handles memory better, but the advantage of a (stripped down) Chromium based browser or Firefox is better compatibility with the latest web standards and full featured blockers such as uBlock.
Ungoogled Chromium with uBlock works for me. Brave with uBlock worked before that.. Firefox with uBlock also works and is a decent option if you hate Chrome.
Maybe Safari beats all of those combos but if it did, I personally still would not use it as I don’t like it.
boswald
macrumors 68030
I used to use Wipr to block things on the web, but found that it often missed a few things, so I switched to AdGuard. Works like a charm. I can't even imagine the Wild West the web has become without an ad-blocker these days. Have you considered using a third-party ad-blocking DNS service like AdGuard/NextDNS to block some of that crap?
MrGunny94
macrumors 65816
I'm using NextDNS and with the right lists especially for regional websites works wonders.
boswald
macrumors 68030
I have NextDNS AND AdGuard and I've yet to see anything. Probably overkill, but according to the logs, there's a few things that even NextDNS has missed.
I have adguard on my router, all my devices wherever they are, run through my router via Tailscale
when I see people browsing the web without it is mind blowing. On mobile in particular, it looks completely unusable
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MrGunny94
macrumors 65816
Funny thing is that here in Europe most if not almost all people I see are browsing their phones full of dads.
In the gyms I see ton of people listening to music in Youtube without any Premium or anything and stopping ads. Tons of time I see this when I'm picking up weights lol
BSDnostalgia
macrumors 6502a
Something didn't quite come through.
Regardless, can you explain how ads behave differently in the EU?
MrGunny94
macrumors 65816
Well the ads approach in the EU is mainly driven by the General Data Protection Regulation aka GDPR. It requires explicit, opt-in consent for tracking cookies and data collection, therefore users must actively agree to be tracked, it's still full of pop-ups and far more annoying than just accepting cookies.
BSDnostalgia
macrumors 6502a
Vendor "lockin" is the carrot-and-stick that Big Blue used in the 1970's to keep organizations from straying. In this case, Apple is offering a mostly (not completely) superior user experience-- for a price. People will switch to something else if the price becomes out of reach or just out of touch. e.g. Linux on laptop and desktop plus Ubuntu Touch or Graphene on the cell phone. The Linux desktop/laptop is here now obviously, but, the cell phone/wearables part seems not quite there yet. (Am I wrong?)
When you start comparing spec to spec and build quality the competition in some cases cost more.
boswald
macrumors 68030
Do you think this is because people just want stuff for free, or do you think they don't know how to stop the ads?
MrGunny94
macrumors 65816
Most likely not wanting to pay and not having the knowledge... It's very confusing for me
boswald
macrumors 68030
Yeah, me too. But it's not just in Europe. A lot of people here in the States put up with a lot of crap too. I hear ads go off all the time in places like doctor's offices and physical therapy. People just don't want to pay for YT Premium or Spotify. It's sad. It's not like they cost much. I'm on a fixed income and I can afford them.
If one good thing comes from the "Great RAM Crisis of 2026" I hope it is a redesign of browsers, if possible, to suck less RAM, especially the most popular ones like Chrome and Safari. And ESPECIALLY Safari in light of the recent significant Apple price increases. It almost seems crazy that open web pages can hog such large amounts of memory resources.
In Houston we have seven stores and they have all been busy no matter what time of the year you go all but one are in malls.
UnifiedMelody
macrumors 6502
Yea that's why I had 64GB on my M4 Max MBP lol simply because webpages alone these days are consuming way more RAM. I've never had memory swap since on this.
keksikuningas
macrumors 6502
MrGunny94
macrumors 65816
Yeah it's absolutely crazy, I'm doing pretty fine with 48GB usually with 8-10GB free but if I have wayy to much multi tasking going + Gemma 4 loaded locally it starts swapping 😀