Chown33,
There is a difference. Foremost is the distinction between the consequences of being found liable for a civil wrong and being found guilty of an illegal act. The consequence of having committed a civil wrong is usually NOT punishment (unless the wrong is particularly malicious, and even in that case, the punishment is just a greater monetary award). It is to shift the loss suffered by the opposing party. When one is guilty of an illegal act, however, the remedy is typically a punishment (and sometimes also restitution).
There is a difference. Foremost is the distinction between the consequences of being found liable for a civil wrong and being found guilty of an illegal act. The consequence of having committed a civil wrong is usually NOT punishment (unless the wrong is particularly malicious, and even in that case, the punishment is just a greater monetary award). It is to shift the loss suffered by the opposing party. When one is guilty of an illegal act, however, the remedy is typically a punishment (and sometimes also restitution).
Having read the entire thread, the only question I have is this:
What difference does it make?Is there some technical point of law that hinges on the precise definition of the word "illegal", as there is for words like "felony" or "tort" or "breach of contract"? Is there a difference in punishment between being adjudged guilty of an unadorned "in breach of contract" vs. being "illegally in breach of contract"?
Dictionary definitions notwithstanding, I don't see how the presence or absence of the word "illegal" (or "legal", in the sense of "the opposite of illegal") makes any difference whatsoever.
In my experience, breaches of contract are called breaches of contract, being one aspect of a larger class of civil wrongs called torts. Commission of a misdemeanor or a felony is called a misdemeanor or a felony, not "illegal" except informally. Then there are transgressions like parking tickets, and I'm not even sure what those are called, since not every traffic violation is necessarily a misdemeanor or a felony.
This whole thing seems to me like a distinction without a difference. There may be some as-yet unexplained purpose to the argument from a philosophical viewpoint, but I see no purpose at all when it comes to the law or any punitive measures.
If there is a difference to this distinction, I'd like to know what it is.
It reminds me of the distinction between "unity" and "one" in mathematics. There is none; the terms are interchangeable. The only difference is convention: "unity" is used in some conventions, and "one" is used in others. The meaning is identical. (And someone will probably disagree with me on that, convinced of my benighted ignorance.)