Is Yosemite being rushed out before it's ready for prime time?

[TheBSDGuy]

Does anyone know what the rationale for using Core Storage by default is?

 

[yeedawg]

Im still having issues with Yosemite. Im on the GM candidate and my macbook pro i5 with 8gb of ram with an ssd, and my macbook always freezes up for like 30 seconds or so and then it continues on what its doing. Its super annoying. Especially with all of my upgrades, it should be acting like this. So i vote no, its not ready.

 

[Delmar]

From my experience running it on my early 2009 mini with 8gb of ram I say it's good to go. It runs just as smoothly if not better than Mavericks does.

 

[Graig]

I actually liked my experience with Beta 4 until I found that Safari Share button had "No Services" and when I tried to use Apple Mail I got a Certificate Expired error every other time, I could get in by checking a Box to trust the site but it required it each time. Never happened before in any other other version of OS X. I am back on Mavericks again, created a new account for Mail. Will wait for final release and then read all the bug reports before installing.

 

[Traverse]

All their software has been buggy. Even when they think it's ready, analyze it another two weeks.

 

[Paradoxally]

all their software has been buggy. Even when they think it's ready, analyze it another two months.

ftfy

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

Does anyone know what the rationale for using Core Storage by default is?

Apple says:

Core Storage

Layered between the whole-disk partition scheme and the file system used for a
specific partition is a new logical volume format known as Core Storage. Core Storage
makes it easy to dynamically allocate partitions while providing full compatibility with
existing filesystems. In particular, Core Storage allows in-place transformations such as
backgrounding the full-disk encryption used by File Vault 2, intelligent block-level data
migration used by Fusion Drive, ditto blocks for metadata, and copy-on-write B-tree
catalogs

From:
http://www.apple.com/media/us/osx/2013/docs/OSX_Mavericks_Core_Technology_Overview.pdf

 

[deviant]

No I don't have TRIM enabled due to the new kext signing that the developer was talking about that Apple implemented in Yosemite. Have you had any luck using TRIM Enabler? I remember reading that it was making Macs unbootable with Yosemite.

Trim Enabler has been updated and works now.

 

[randomgeeza]

There are a fair number of bugs that still exist in Mavericks and they may still exist in Mountain Lion as well. Most that I know of have to do with external drives, like drive ejecting, drive going to sleep midstream, drive powering down while in use, USB drive not recognized unless a USB hub is used as an "adapter." Apple has been getting away with the "Blaim the vendor" game for too long. It seemed to start around the release of Mountain Lion.

On Yosemite I see a lot of old Apple Apps crash, and IMHO they shouldn't. If they're Intel based apps they should work, period, but they don't, and some of them are now "banned" with the prohibited sign through them.

The old phrase "It just works..." is now "It might work if you're lucky..."

We shouldn't be getting OS updates every year if there are still significant bugs with existing OSes. Why do we need a new OS every year if they can't even get the current versions working right?

I really don't like the direction this company is taking.

I absolutely agree! Hopefully with Microsoft taking a slower approach to W10... and using that as a base to build upon. Apple might follow suit and start to iron out it's current buggy OS'. It should be fixing the bugs that are inherent.

There really is no need to release a new OS every year! A lot are already tiring of it... myself included.

And I have no intention of jumping on Yosemite anytime soon, regardless!

 

[Abba1]

Boot Menu

Seems fine to me. Only weird thing I've discovered in PB4 is the boot menu is now in black and white, it looks really odd against the normally coloured drive options. Anyone else found this? I don't know if it's deliberate or not.

Aside from that and continuity still not working for some reason its a great and solid OS. Safari is fantastic, HTML5 Youtube & Netflix by default is awesome!

At first I was shaken up by the black and white. But, now that I'm used to it, I rather like it.

 

[827538]

At first I was shaken up by the black and white. But, now that I'm used to it, I rather like it.

I'm just a little confused if that's what it's supposed to be like, they need to do something with the drive icons as the contrast is a bit jarring.

 

[HeyHeyHeyy]

It's not ready. If one of the most popular browsers (Firefox) is displaying a huge graphical error (see my thread about it) after so many releases... then how can it be ready?

 

[100thMonkey]

If people are worried about too many bugs...just wait for 10.10.1...like I'm going to do

 

[cjmillsnun]

scrolling in yosemite itunes is like 15 fps, everything else is smooth and mostly bug free. also, definitely faster, snappier than mavericks.

whats up with itunes?

Ummm, it's old code, and is bloated.

 

[mattjohnson78]

I would say it's very close to ready. I have been running the Betas and GM since day one and it has improved each release. I would say it's very stable and all the programs I use run great on it, but I am also running the Betas of many apps that are being tested for Yosemite. As for individual apps not working that can not always be put on Apple and sometimes needs to be put on the app developer to update the app, they have been given time and many have. Apple has even requested the developers to start submitting their apps.

I am happy with my decision to move to Yosemite.

 

[cjmillsnun]

It's not ready. If one of the most popular browsers (Firefox) is displaying a huge graphical error (see my thread about it) after so many releases... then how can it be ready?

Firefox is a third party app, it may be using deprecated or otherwise unsupported APIs. Just because Firefox has a problem does not mean there is anything wrong with the OS. If most apps were doing that then I'd agree with you, but one says that it is a fault with the app.

 

[Merode]

Ummm, it's old code, and is bloated.

Why won't they rewrite it? That's something I'd look forward to.

 

[nbnbxdnb]

Can u add multiple Gmail accounts to Mail? I can only add one gmail account.

Honestly, Mavericks mail really made me mad considering I have 8 Gmail accounts (for YouTube before they allowed multiple channels on one login). It was just a nightmare. I tried Mailbox beta, not my cup of tea really. I guess its the fact that you have two options for badging the app. Either:

Show all messages in the Inbox (read or unread) as the badge (I.e. 200 messages in your Inbox would display 200)

Or Show a 1 for new messages, which means no matter how many new messages you have it badges a 1. Rather annoying. I have complained to them in the past (particularly when the iPhone app came out, I wait to use that too!)



I notice you have a late-2013 rMBP. I have both a late-2013 rMBP and a 2009 Mac Pro and the rMBP is the only one of the two that shows a black startup screen and the background for selecting a boot disk when holding Alt is black as well. The Mac Pro is the same; white. I think only certain rMBPs (late-2013 and later) have this featue, which I kinda like actually. Makes sense too considering iOS now behaves the same way on iPhone 5 and newer (white back/black Apple on white devices, black back/white Apple on black devices).

I wonder if there is a setting to change that would turn this on and off. We might be able to turn it off, but users of other computers I don't think could activate it since I beleive its part of an EFI update that installs itself automatically after installing Yosemite.

So far the only annoyance with Yosemite is the fact that installing it coverts my drive to Core Storage/Logical Volume. I hate that. I'm not sure if the terminal command can be run directly from within the OS, however I installed Mavericks on a small partition, booted from that and changed it back to standard GPT. I have no idea why they did this, but thankfully it is reversible. I beleive it only happens to Macs with PCI-e SSDs (MBA mid-2013 and newer, rMBP late 2013 and newer, and 2013 Mac Pro).

If the Recovery Parition has Terminal (I think it does right in the Utilites menu?) I think it can be run in ther with no problems.

 

[cjmillsnun]

Why won't they rewrite it? That's something I'd look forward to.

You and just about every other iTunes user. Myself included.