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Unknot yourself. The ipad is very useful complimentary device. Its utility to me is somewhat undermined by file sharing issues into the Windows world. icloud drive is a joke. You cannot transfer documents for Sketchbook Pro or Scanbot. Thats insane, Apple! Apple pen is very good, but massively overrated. I love my ipad. Things are what they are.


Kinda weird, my GF and I both use Sketchbook, and can easily transfer art from the iPad to our respective Macs.
 
Although I have a wonderful desktop that still meets my needs (2010 iMac), whenever I travel anywhere the iPad Air is with me. If I'm away from wireless, I just use the personal hotspot on the phone for brief connections.

Apps that allow me to do most anything, including move money around regardless of location.

A wide range of browsers. I've used Safari, Chrome, Opera, Firefox and tried a few others.

Doesn't feel like a toy to me.
 
If a toy can allow me to make money by accessing and using excel, word, pages, PowerPoint and many more office suites to make presentations and documents, then what an incredible toy. If it can teach people about technology, shoot, create, and edit full High Resolution 4K videos and edit film projects quickly and with quality, make and edit full music suites and create songs then bloody h*ll that’s a brilliant toy. If it can allow one to draw and sketch with precision equal to a industry professional’ drawing machine... it’s a fantastic toy. If it can be connected and used by doctors and hospitals to monitor a patient’s health and all medical records, and it can be used to teach kids and adults from all around the world how to write, spell, do math, etc, and etc... then this is quite simply the greatest toy ever.
There are a hundreds if not thousands of other jobs an iPad (even a regular non-pro iPad can do.)
Honestly asking or stating if an iPad is a toy is a rather short sighted and quite silly question/statement.
But of course we all have our own opinions.




Kallum.
 
For my personal use, yes it’s just a browser and casual media consumption device. I can see how it could probably be a useful productive tool for some people though.
 
I think that for now it's not really a toy, but it is a product designed to keep a user on track, in a streamlined way and with minimal fuss, and it's both a good and a bad thing.

For people that are in a light or pre-organised workflow it's great, doctors, teachers, contractors etc etc. But if the work you do does not fit into a nice preorganized box it's pretty likely to be a headache.
 
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My iPad Pro has a vital place in my business workflow and that’s taking notes during meetings using OneNote and reviewing documents / adding handwritten comments using Word. Both of those work brilliantly with the Apple Pencil and I’ve never used a tool that feels more natural for those tasks (which add up to probably 4-6 hours per day)

There’s no way I can dump my computers and just use an iPad but as a companion device it’s brilliant and certainly not just a toy
 
It's ok for if you want to climb a tree and play minecraft - but it's no computer :D
Except I’ve used mine as a computer for more than 2-years and the only other computer I plan to buy is an iMac in a few years... but even then it’s use will be limited, just making use of the 5K resolution, photoshop, and Final Cut Pro until iPad is given a more hybrid OS.
The iPad despite what so many want to believe IS A COMPUTER. It may not fully replace a desktop or laptop quite yet, (but after iOS 11 and the new hardware from the 2017 beast... it’s 97% there.) *File management, file saving (video files, music,) and better UI with better office interaction/use and full program suites is all it needs, *and that can be adjusted in future OS updates.
It’s really getting silly for people to declare it “not a computer replacement” just cause they most often don’t use it as such, but when thousands have and many actual professionals working in accounting, medical, film, graphic design, banking, and sales/marketing jobs use them as much as PCs, they are at least near-computer equivalents in that scenario. Just like a calculator or MP3 player are computers... iPad is most definitely a computer.



Kallum.
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My iPad Pro has a vital place in my business workflow and that’s taking notes during meetings using OneNote and reviewing documents / adding handwritten comments using Word. Both of those work brilliantly with the Apple Pencil and I’ve never used a tool that feels more natural for those tasks (which add up to probably 4-6 hours per day)

There’s no way I can dump my computers and just use an iPad but as a companion device it’s brilliant and certainly not just a toy

I work in Film, Animation, Writing, and I consult With Warner Bros. in many different aspects/products... and do my math, English, geography homework, thesis’, and research, (which a desktop doesn’t do any better) I don’t see how it isn’t a computer. *yes I am broken record I know. lol


Kallum.
 
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It’s more than a toy. It’s basically what I use when I want to travel light. I use it for teaching, for travel, for short work sessions at a coffee shop, etc. At home I tend to use it for reading or light work while I’m watching TV etc.

I’m finding I actually enjoy using it so I use it a lot. Maybe it’s because I got it recently so it’s a novelty.
 
It’s really getting silly for people to declare it “not a computer replacement” just cause they most often don’t use it as such, but when thousands have and many actual professionals working in accounting, medical, film, graphic design, banking, and sales/marketing jobs use them as much as PCs, they are at least near-computer equivalents in that scenario. Just like a calculator or MP3 player are computers... iPad is most definitely a computer.

It's a play on words in regards to the advert... apple say "whats a computer",
 
Well, I took the leap of faith and dumped my rMBP 2015, and sticking to iPad pro 12.9 2017.
I use it for communication (slack, skype,mail), coding (ssh to my devbox in GCP), editing (Luma, Affinity, Lightroom, Concepts), media consumption (Netflix and other things), studying (notability).

Use it with apple magic keyboard 2.

And for me, this thing is really not maybe a full blown replacement for laptop (miss option to use external displays) but an worthy alternative. So far there were no usecases when I needed laptop to do anything.

So yeah, for me this thing successfully took the place of laptops.
 
I work in Film, Animation, Writing, and I consult With Warner Bros. in many different aspects/products... and do my math, English, geography homework, thesis’, and research, (which a desktop doesn’t do any better) I don’t see how it isn’t a computer. *yes I am broken record I know. lol


Kallum.

Unless and until it supports virtualisation, development tools and database servers it can't replace a computer for me and it will remain a (very good at what it does) companion device. It does the jobs I use it for better than my computers (which is why I use it for those tasks)
 
It’s been a long time now since I started this thread, and I’m a little amazed that it’s still going. I obviously touched a nerve.
Honestly asking or stating if an iPad is a toy is a rather short sighted and quite silly question/statement.
It’s not short sighted at all. Incase you missed my original post, I had an iPad mini, and all I ever used it for was surfing and watching Netflix. That’s toy territory in my book, and I needed more than that. Here’s the meat of my reasoning:
So on the one hand, I could use a hardware upgrade. I have an early-2011 MBP, which is really starting to show its age. But it also was invaluable when I was looking for a new job and relocating 6 months ago. I updated my resume, posted to recruiting sites, had several interviews over Skype, wrote numerous coding samples for prospective employers, organized and executed my move, all from my MBP. There's no way an iPad could have accomplished all of that, so I'm not someone who's going to go iPad only.
Basically what it comes down to is that I was looking for a job, and there’s no way that an iPad could have handled everything I needed to get done.

Still today the iPad can’t satisfy the demands of my job, not even for a single day. Is it really such a stretch then to wonder if the “Pro” label is not really appropriate when that’s your experience?
 
Well I like my TOY..

Yes I like it too, but I don't think it's a toy unless all of our stuff ar toys such as our Jaguar XJ6 and Rolex watch.....
But it's not a full computer yet and I don't need it for that it's a great tablet for most of us, and be honest most of the people really don't need a computer they can get by having a tablet
 
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I use my 10.5 for business and personal every day. Besides my iPhone, it’s my only other tool used for work. I am able to manage a logistics team of 60 people through email, OneNote, Safari, Word, Excel, and Documents 6. People who call the iPad a toy have a hard time accepting the inevitable and moving forward with technology.
 
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Ok, so I know the thread title may seem trollish, but I promise that's not what I'm trying to do. Part of my purchase process inevitably gets to a point where I say to myself "I don't really need this thing." The iPad Pro with iOS 11 has me really tempted, and so I'm in that same spot of saying that I don't really need it. That's the reason I'm starting this thread, to get these thoughts out there and see what others have to say.

So on the one hand, I could use a hardware upgrade. I have an early-2011 MBP, which is really starting to show its age. But it also was invaluable when I was looking for a new job and relocating 6 months ago. I updated my resume, posted to recruiting sites, had several interviews over Skype, wrote numerous coding samples for prospective employers, organized and executed my move, all from my MBP. There's no way an iPad could have accomplished all of that, so I'm not someone who's going to go iPad only.

On the other hand, the iPad could have accomplished a lot of those tasks. I have an original iPad Mini, which is REALLY showing its age. So much so that I haven't bothered to dig it out of the box since we moved, and I haven't missed it.

That last part is what's feeding my thought process that the iPad is just a toy. Sure, I've enjoyed taking it on trips to watch movies and Netflix, read books, etc. But that's all its ever really done for me.

Then Monday happened, and now I'm back to thinking that maybe there is some usefulness to the iPad beyond consumption. For example, I'm constantly having to scan receipts, sign a cover document, and email them off.

So now I'm so wrapped up in knots that I just don't know what to think. My personal experience has been that the iPad is indeed just a toy for watching videos. But is there something about the Pro that changes this? Is multitasking (even the version that came in iOS 9) really THAT big of a game changer? Sorry for the rambling nature of this post, but my thoughts are just such a mess right now. I would love to hear what everyone else has to say.
I think the iPad is half way between a wonderful toy and a very basic working machine. For many people a very basic working machine can be enough to replace their laptop. I would like it to be good enough that i can leave my Mac at home if I travel for a week and only need to do light workflows. It is not there yet, mainly due to a combination of horrible bugs in the Files app, lack of features in iCloud, and lack of external drive support in the Files App. If iOS12 implements these features (and makes Files a bit less buggy) and, maybe, mouse and external monitor support (these two features are related)...well, the iPad (Pro, or not) will become a device which is MUCH more versatile and suitable for my work needs, although still far from replacing a notebook for all the tasks I need to do.
 
I use my 10.5 for business and personal every day. Besides my iPhone, it’s my only other tool used for work. I am able to manage a logistics team of 60 people through email, OneNote, Safari, Word, Excel, and Documents 6. People who call the iPad a toy have a hard time accepting the inevitable and moving forward with technology.

So basically you could also work with Pen and Paper. Your job does not need advanced software. Not "Pro" at all.
 
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The lack of an accessible files system really undermines what it can do for me. I tried a few work arounds but none of them works well.

Anyone knows the best way to transfer hundreds GBs of thousands of files between 2 iOS devices without having to pay for cloud services, please let me know. I’d really appreciate it.
 
The lack of an accessible files system really undermines what it can do for me. I tried a few work arounds but none of them works well.

Anyone knows the best way to transfer hundreds GBs of thousands of files between 2 iOS devices without having to pay for cloud services, please let me know. I’d really appreciate it.

When it comes to files, the app-silo approach is very bad. Getting files in and out of apps introduce a lot of stress.

- Some apps like Documents have some kind of file share protocol enabled. Problem, you cannot run those apps for longer periods of time in background (haha, yes yes iToy is not PRO at all).

- AirDrop needs an active approval for transfer, so you cannot do it unattended, just like on ANY regular computer with network shares.
 
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