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Fredrikl

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I suspect the new chip has HEVC support? That’s a big upside.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-UHD-Graphics-617-Graphics-Card.354556.0.html

The revised video engine in the HD 615 and UHD 615 / 617 now supports H.265/HEVC Main10 profile in hardware with 10 bit colors. Furthermore, Googles VP9 codec can also be hardware decoded. The UHD 617 should support HDCP 2.2 and therefore Netflix 4K. HDMI 2.0 however is still only supported with an external converter chip (LSPCon).
 

thunng8

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With it having a very close TDP to the A12X I’m fascinated to see how the two compare in performance - from the noises Apple was making over the iPad Pro, I’m guessing not favourably!
Yeah, the a12x will spank this chip silly. It’s not even a contest. In multi core it should be more than double the speed.

And graphics wise - my guess is at least triple or higher performance with the a12x
 

cannono

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Yeah, the a12x will spank this chip silly. It’s not even a contest. In multi core it should be more than double the speed.

And graphics wise - my guess is at least triple or higher performance with the a12x
That makes the new Air sound crappy
 

Macintoshrumors

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It isn't that CPU, look at the specs...
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Gizmodo are 100% wrong.
Remember, intel rebranded the m3/m5/m7 to i3/i5/i7 to make it not seem like a inferior chip(they still are). The updated versions are what’s in these airs.
 

Ma2k5

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Remember, intel rebranded the m3/m5/m7 to i3/i5/i7 to make it not seem like a inferior chip(they still are). The updated versions are what’s in these airs.

Not sure what you are getting at, the i5-8210Y is definitely superior to the i5-8200Y which Gizmodo are/where reporting - and that is what the MacBook Air are using (7W vs 5W, 2133mhz vs 1866mhz RAM etc). This model is also a fan'd model, not fanless like the 12", so will have better performance.
 

venom600

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Not sure what you are getting at, the i5-8210Y is definitely superior to the i5-8200Y which Gizmodo are/where reporting - and that is what the MacBook Air are using (7W vs 5W, 2133mhz vs 1866mhz RAM etc). This model is also a fan'd model, not fanless like the 12", so will have better performance.

And yet there’s still a decent chance that the nearly four year old last gen Air will have similar or better performance. Y series processors are glorified tablet CPUs that greatly favor battery life over performance.
 

Ma2k5

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And yet there’s still a decent chance that the nearly four year old last gen Air will have similar or better performance. Y series processors are glorified tablet CPUs that greatly favor battery life over performance.

I would assume despite being a Y processor, I believe it will perform better than last gen Air as it is 7W instead of 5W and it has a fan (unlike say the 12” MacBook).

Not that this is a huge accomplishment of course and it will still be behind the 2016 7th gen nTB.
 
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Falhófnir

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I would assume despite being a Y processor, I beleive it will perform better than last gen Air as it is 7W instead of 5W and it has a fan (unlike say the 12” MacBook).

Not that this is a huge accomplishment of course and it will still be behind the 2016 7th gen nTB.
I'm fairly sure the 2017 MB had already more or less caught up, so I'm sure this will still be more powerful than the 2015 on single and multi core CPU. Where it will probably fall short is graphics power - the HD615 was still a long way off HD6000 and it would be really something for the 617 to catch up on that, though the extra 2W and active cooling might help (Y series processors seem to starve the GPU of power somewhat).
 

Fredrikl

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Feb 19, 2016
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HD6000 has 48 execution units vs 24 in 617. Hence 617 could be 50% slower that the HD6000 for common tasks.
 

EugW

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Not sure what you are getting at, the i5-8210Y is definitely superior to the i5-8200Y which Gizmodo are/where reporting - and that is what the MacBook Air are using (7W vs 5W, 2133mhz vs 1866mhz RAM etc). This model is also a fan'd model, not fanless like the 12", so will have better performance.
No, the i5-8200Y in 7 Watt mode is superior to the i5-8210Y, at least for CPU. The i5-8200Y in 7 Watt mode is 1.6 GHz base and 3.9 GHz turbo.

The i5-8210Y is effectively equivalent to an i7-7Y75 running in 7 Watt mode, at 1.6 GHz base, 3.6 GHz turbo, with identical GPU clock speeds.
 

Ma2k5

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No, the i5-8200Y in 7 Watt mode is superior to the i5-8210Y, at least for CPU. The i5-8200Y in 7 Watt mode is 1.6 GHz base and 3.9 GHz turbo.

The i5-8210Y is effectively equivalent to an i7-7Y75 running in 7 Watt mode, at 1.6 GHz base, 3.6 GHz turbo, with identical GPU clock speeds.

The 8200Y doesn’t support 2133mhz RAM. I wouldn’t look much into that turbo either as something tells me it doesn’t reach it (or does for Maximum 0.5 seconds, but probably doesn’t at all).

It’s possible these benchmarks are off (I’ve seen this happen before) so I’d wait for post release benchmarks.

But yes, we might not see a huge difference between the two CPU’s.
 
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