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iTunes 8.1 Now Available for Download

I upgraded to 8.1 and reverted back to 8.0.2. I was getting spinning beachballs each time I started the program with my iMac G5 (never had this problem before) and the audio wouldn't import right using the program Max.

It's 8.0.2. for me for awhile now. Wish I wouldn't have upgraded (for once).
 
I have a very strange problem. Just upgraded on my macbook pro 10.4.11.

Most albums play fine but a few will hang for about 3 seconds before it plays a track. I think this is probably a more advanced problem that I had with the previous version where playing tracks on certain albums would hang for .5 of a second.

Anyone else?
 
I just reverted to itunes 8.0.2 (http://support.apple.com/downloads/#itunes)
and its all working fine again.

for anyone that doesnt know, youll have to change your latest file within 'Previous iTunes Libraries' folder to 'iTunes Library' Then drag it out and replace the current 'iTunes Library' file.

Create a backup first.
 
fronheiser said:
Since upgrading to 8.1, I can't download iPhone apps or TV shows (Season Pass). I get an error that says simply:

"Unable to check for available downloads. The iTunes Store is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."
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I'm getting this same error message. I have a bunch of iPhone app updates that iTunes will not let me download. Any ideas how to fix this? I just emailed iTunes customer service, but they're probably getting slammed right now.
 
320kbps vs. iTunes Plus

Since HD space is so cheap these days, I've been ripping all tracks at 320kbps… is there some sort of new advantage regarding sound quality to start ripping with the iTunes Plus setting? Or should I stick with 320kbps for the best sound?

(By the way, I'm not willing to go to Apple Lossless just yet so please don't suggest this.... just curious about 320 vs. Plus.)

Thanks a million!!
 
JGowan said:
Since HD space is so cheap these days, I've been ripping all tracks at 320kbps… is there so sort of new advantage regarding sound quality to start ripping with the iTunes Plus setting? Or should I stick with 320kbps for the best sound?

Thanks a million!!

PS... I'm not willing to go to Apple Lossless just yet so please don't suggest this.... just curious about 320 vs. Plus.
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320 kb/s is a waste of space. Just do lossless and iTunes plus isn't anything special it's just 256kb/s. If you're ripping at 320 you might as well just go lossless. There's a very small file size difference.
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
320 kb/s is a waste of space. Just do lossless and iTunes plus isn't anything special it's just 256kb/s. If you're ripping at 320 you might as well just go lossless. There's a very small file size difference.
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Rubbish.

For example:
Kate Bush - Jig Of Life (from Hounds Of Love).
4' 04" long.
MP3 320kbps = 9.4MB
Apple Lossless 899kbps = 26.2MB

Nearly 3 times the size - hardly a "very small file size difference" is it?
 
themoonisdown09 said:
I noticed another bug with the 8.1 update.

When you select an entire album and click Get Info and drag album art over and save it, after all of the artwork has been applied (and all of the songs are still selected), the artwork in the little window on the bottom left goes blank. You have to unselect all of the songs and select them again before it shows back up. By the way, the window is set to show the artwork for the selected song, not the song currently playing.

It's not a big deal, but it is annoying... especially since I'm in the middle of ripping my entire CD collection as Apple Lossless.
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Why not just select all tracks, and drop the artwork on the album artwork window in the lower left part of the screen?
 
wfarr said:
Open up the Music playlist on your iPod (click the triangle next to its name to expand the list).

Down at the bottom of the window.

You should see something like this:

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Enjoy.
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i dont see gthe triangle
do i have to have my itouch plugged in?
im confused
 
JGowan said:
<snip!> … By the way, I'm not willing to go to Apple Lossless just yet so please don't suggest this.... just curious about 320 vs. Plus.
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TuffLuffJimmy said:
320 kb/s is a waste of space. Just do lossless and iTunes plus isn't anything special it's just 256kb/s. If you're ripping at 320 you might as well just go lossless. There's a very small file size difference.
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What part of "I'm not willing to go to Apple Lossless so please don't suggest this" do you not understand?

I'm no dummy. I know that a lossless file is more than 50% of the original AIFF and that normally AIFF songs are over 10MB a minute. So a 5 minute song is well over 50MB at original (and over 30MB for Apple Lossless.) That's too big for a single song! That's why I didn't want to wade through a "LOSSLESS" suggestion.

What I didn't understand was WHY this new preset was a big deal. You could ALWAYS do 256kbps+VBR so what's the "secret sauce"? What's so special now? I think it might just be to get people in the habit of ripping at the same "iTunes Plus" and thus wanting this branded "rip" when buying digital music.

I ripped a song EXACTLY 5:00 minutes long. The info you gave was so far off.

Original AIFF = 55.2MB
Lossless Preset = 37MB
320 AAC = 11.8MB
NEW iTunes Plus Preset = 9.7MB

Hmmm -- I can deal with a song being 2MB bigger, but 27MB bigger!

TuffLuff, thanks but no thanks.

Anyone else? What is different about this new preset than simply ripping 256 AAC before?
 

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Permissions crazy after updates.

I installed all the new software updates. Afterwards I repaired permissions. However, I've continued to repair permissions more than a dozen times; and every time a long list of permissions are repaired and it says complete. But if I do it again there is another long list. The lists are similar, but not identical.
I've done this while the computer is booted normally and off the install disks.
Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?

I'm running 10.5.6 on an aluminum MacBook 2.4GHz.

Thanks.
 
jw74 said:
I installed all the new software updates. Afterwards I repaired permissions. However, I've continued to repair permissions more than a dozen times; and every time a long list of permissions are repaired and it says complete. But if I do it again there is another long list. The lists are similar, but not identical.
I've done this while the computer is booted normally and off the install disks.
Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?

I'm running 10.5.6 on an aluminum MacBook 2.4GHz.

Thanks.
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are you having any issues with your computer? usually permission repair is used to fix a problem, and if there isn't one, I don't think you should worry. there may always be a few harmless permissions that need re-orienting all the time... but if everything is running fine, I would hold off on the constant permission repairing
 
smartalic34 said:
are you having any issues with your computer? usually permission repair is used to fix a problem, and if there isn't one, I don't think you should worry. there may always be a few harmless permissions that need re-orienting all the time... but if everything is running fine, I would hold off on the constant permission repairing
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Last night my screen went dark, while the keys were still backlit. Took a couple of reboots to get my computer to come alive again. I don't know if this was related.
After researching, it seems many are having the same permissions issues.
I guess we will forever be beta testers for apple's updates.
 
i've also been noticing that 8.1 is a lot less stable for me, and it tends to slow down and use a lot more processor than it used to, so I'm going to revert back to the previous version
 
kas23 said:
I'm getting this same error message. I have a bunch of iPhone app updates that iTunes will not let me download. Any ideas how to fix this? I just emailed iTunes customer service, but they're probably getting slammed right now.
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You could:

(1) Downgrade to 8.0.2 (there's enough info in the last 20 posts to figure this out) or

(2) Download your app upgrades through the iPhone App Store. If any are larger than 10 MB, you'll have to connect to a wireless network with the phone before downloading.

I got an email reply yesterday from Apple saying "we're working on it." Nothing since. I'm back on 8.0.2 and will stay there for now.
 
Just noticed that 8.1 fixes the issue where 'custom' TV shows don't appear in the list to be synced to an iPhone. It previously only showed ones you'd bought - any videos you categorised as TV shows just didn't appear.

Also glad they fixed the calendar color bug...
 
eAi said:
Just noticed that 8.1 fixes the issue where 'custom' TV shows don't appear in the list to be synced to an iPhone. It previously only showed ones you'd bought - any videos you categorised as TV shows just didn't appear.

Also glad they fixed the calendar color bug...
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That's not true... Half of my videos in the TV show section are ripped from my own DVDs and they've always synced just fine to my iPhone and all of my iPods.
 
: This Front Row update provides improved iTunes 8.1 compatibility.

the update is only to add new itunes compatibility?

what a rip, as much as i like front row, it dose crash a lot, has no support of the saved settings in .mov's like bass boot, and sometimes the audio doesn't play in videos.
 
JGowan said:
What part of "I'm not willing to go to Apple Lossless so please don't suggest this" do you not understand?

I'm no dummy. I know that a lossless file is more than 50% of the original AIFF and that normally AIFF songs are over 10MB a minute. So a 5 minute song is well over 50MB at original (and over 30MB for Apple Lossless.) That's too big for a single song! That's why I didn't want to wade through a "LOSSLESS" suggestion.

What I didn't understand was WHY this new preset was a big deal. You could ALWAYS do 256kbps+VBR so what's the "secret sauce"? What's so special now? I think it might just be to get people in the habit of ripping at the same "iTunes Plus" and thus wanting this branded "rip" when buying digital music.

I ripped a song EXACTLY 5:00 minutes long. The info you gave was so far off.

Original AIFF = 55.2MB
Lossless Preset = 37MB
320 AAC = 11.8MB
NEW iTunes Plus Preset = 9.7MB

Hmmm -- I can deal with a song being 2MB bigger, but 27MB bigger!

TuffLuff, thanks but no thanks.

Anyone else? What is different about this new preset than simply ripping 256 AAC before?
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Right on JG!

This might help you out a bit:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=70405&hl=

You might not be aware that there are encoder quality settings that are not available in iTunes. With these you can get a higher quality file for given bitrate by having the encoder simply take a bit more time with the encoding. It looks like iTunes Plus uses the highest quality setting..

You can easily get access to the higher quality settings by using programs such as MAX and XLD.
You can also get access to AAC True VBR with XLD - worth checking out.
 
JGowan said:
What part of "I'm not willing to go to Apple Lossless so please don't suggest this" do you not understand?

I'm no dummy. I know that a lossless file is more than 50% of the original AIFF and that normally AIFF songs are over 10MB a minute. So a 5 minute song is well over 50MB at original (and over 30MB for Apple Lossless.) That's too big for a single song! That's why I didn't want to wade through a "LOSSLESS" suggestion.

What I didn't understand was WHY this new preset was a big deal. You could ALWAYS do 256kbps+VBR so what's the "secret sauce"? What's so special now? I think it might just be to get people in the habit of ripping at the same "iTunes Plus" and thus wanting this branded "rip" when buying digital music.


Anyone else? What is different about this new preset than simply ripping 256 AAC before?
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NOTHING. Good grief. What you aren't getting here, is that 99% of iTunes users have never changed the import settings, ever. They wouldn't know the first thing about changing it, or why.

The only thing the masses understand is low quality vs. "high" quality, and even that is barely understood by most.

In short, if you use "high quality" iTunes plus, you are getting nothing better than original iTunes. 128 or 256. You have a choice between crap and crap.
256/Plus is "better", but to say its high quality is inaccurate.
 
lftrghtparadigm said:
NOTHING. Good grief. What you aren't getting here, is that 99% of iTunes users have never changed the import settings, ever. They wouldn't know the first thing about changing it, or why.

The only thing the masses understand is low quality vs. "high" quality, and even that is barely understood by most.

In short, if you use "high quality" iTunes plus, you are getting nothing better than original iTunes. 128 or 256. You have a choice between crap and crap.
256/Plus is "better", but to say its high quality is inaccurate.
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however, unless you have very good headphones/speakers or consider yourself an audiophile, 256 AAC is going to sound pretty good. it may not be anywhere near lossless, but most people won't be able to tell the difference
 
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