Lord of the rings is in 1080P in the Canadian store
Finally! Someone found one!
Lord of the rings is in 1080P in the Canadian store
There're plenty of movies with 1080P, so far as I could see. More will be added daily. Almost all the new releases n the AppleTV are 1080p
Is this from the Canadian iTunes store? I just checked all the new releases and pre-orders...TinTin, Hugo, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Young Adult, Three Muskiteers...none of those are in 1080p...just 720p.
OR, is this going straight from the Apple TV?
Straight fm AppleTV, young adult, moneyball, and three others I checked were 1080p. I think Mr Lazar was also 1080p. Melancholia wasn't, which was the only one from those I looked at. Oh ya, the descendant 1080p. So quite a bit on itunes Canada
Maybe 1080P versions don't show up on itunes on computer, but do show up on the ATV. Does anyone have the ATV hooked up - and have you checked?
So I'm taking it Apple doesn't want us to store the 1080P movies on the computer and stream it to theTV but to stream it off of iCloud... that's pretty dumb, imo.
Where to start...
Bit rate is not the be all and end all. As Ars points out, Apple have started using the more advanced CPU intensive compression algorithms in h264 that are part of the high profile settings. These take it up to near blue ray quality in most situations. Comparing h264 high profile with mpeg2 compression as used on DVDs is silly. That's like comparing mp3 to AAC.
As for audio, apple send through an unaltered Dolby digital AC3 track at 5.1, although not as good as DTS or 7.1 it is the bees knees for 98% of people.
I've been playing thousands of ripped DVDs for years on my ATVs, just convert them to mp4 containers. Nothing magical about it. I watch tv daily on it, just use eyetv to record and encode, then watch the recording, admittedly not live, which is a pain, but that's what the tv tuner is for, although I'd like it if eyetv could stream live tv to the ATV.
Exactly, you do understand. It's not the resolution that counts, it's the compression algorithms. Anyone can compress 1080p down to almost nothing, and still say it is 1080p, but on movement is just macro blocks. The key here is that apple hasn't done that, they are using decent compression, and it does actually look good on paid for apple downloads (they are not streamed). Don't judge it on the previews.
Some websites have already reported on a visual comparison of blu-ray and ATV 1080P video quality, and report that they're pretty close. However, as earlier poster remarked, there is also the issue of sound - blu-ray is better - but not important for all movies. And I wouldn't want to buy/rent a blu-ray for every movie I want to see.
As for apple providing streams/downloads it is harder since they can't provide both DTS and ac3 without wasting/compromising bandwidth, so they have to stick to the lowest common denomitor.
If you look at the requirements to download/play 1080P from iTunes you need a C2D 2.4 or better Mac, my late 09 MBP doesn't meet these specs at 2.26 C2D, that seems pretty ridiculous, guess I'll stick with blu ray Apple.
My 2.26 C2D MBP doesn't seem to have any problems with it.
the 1080p streaming is a joke. It's a lower datarate than DVD, and more pixels just mean more artifacts. Plus with the cheap stereo sound, why even bother? The 7.1 sound on a blu-ray alone takes more bandwidth than apple's whole fake-HD stream and it's worth every byte.
On the other hand, atv still won't sync with an apple bluetooth keyboard to make searching easier, it won't play a ripped DVD library, won't let you watch actual TV, and is pretty much useless for anything except watching crap-quality apple streams that cost more than just buying the DVD.
Expecting 1080p to mean something is like expecting a 14mp pos camera to take better pictures than a 4mp pos camera. Pixels doesn't automatically mean better and anyone who thinks apple 1080p is anywhere near blu-ray even at 720p or even DVD 480p is an idiot.
The problem is not the resolution, but the compression. It needs to be compressed (too much IMHO) to pass through most people "Internet pipes".
Although I think my connection would support much higher bitrates (les compression), I would reach my bandwidth limit, although from what I read Apple improved on their H.264 codec so that 1080p doesn't take that much more bandwidth (link).
For movies big on special effects - Avatar, Saving Private Ryan and the like - I prefer the best quality. If the ATV comes very close, then I'll be happy, because its more convenient to instant stream versus going to store to rent blu-rays.
Lord of the rings is in 1080P in the Canadian store
you just can't seem to buy them through the iTunes store yet.