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dandeco

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So yesterday I got another laptop for my little collection of older Macs from the electronics recycling/reselling company I work at...
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A mid-2012 13" unibody MacBook Pro, the popular 2.5 GHz Core i5 model that Apple made for four years straight as an affordable laptop option for those that wanted more processing power but didn't want to spring for the pricier Retina Display models. Because these were also pretty popular with educational institutions (in addition to some school districts purchasing these in bulk, I'd see a LOT of college students when going for my I.T. degree with them), we often get a lot of these to recycle or resell, and so I'd often either pull out or reinstall hard drives and RAM in these). My supervisors said because of that factor and my Mac hobby, I could keep one of them for my collection, and so I popped a 1 TB SSD into it and bumped up the RAM from 4 to 8 GB and installed Mac OS 10.15 Catalina on it! The battery needs to be replaced, but that's something I could do without much hassle, as I've had to replace bad batteries from unibody pre-Retina MacBooks before on this job. And I plan to also soon max out the RAM to 16 GB.

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Running the latest version of Final Cut Pro on it. I'm sure it'll perform a lot better once I upgrade the RAM to 16 GB.

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Just for a fun project, I swapped the 1 TB Catalina SSD with my 512 GB SSD with Mac OS X El Capitan installed on it, so I can run older 32-bit applications on this MacBook Pro...

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...like the classic iMovie. While nowadays I definitely prefer Final Cut Pro for similar edits (and the current iMovie for simpler projects), it's a fun throwback once in a while. I can even capture footage from my MiniDV, HDV and Digital8 camcorders via FireWire into the MacBook Pro! (A story about the iMovie HD project there; in late 2018 when I was finally able to have a MiniDV tape removed from my dead Canon Optura 50 camcorder that kicked the bucket on an outing in 2013, I actually ended up capturing the tape into iMovie HD here, as this was before I found out how I could import DV footage via FireWire into the newer versions of iMovie and Final Cut Pro on Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and higher with the sound going through. It was a fun throwback editing on iMovie HD 6, but it did take noticeably longer than if I edited the movie on iMovie 10 or Final Cut Pro X.)

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Running Final Cut Express 4 on the MacBook Pro with the El Capitan SSD installed. It does have kind of an old-school charm.

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And because the internal SuperDrive still works, another useful thing for this MacBook Pro is that I can use it as a DVD-authoring machine, running iDVD 7.1.2 for burning home movies onto elegant-looking DVD discs! (They sure do look nicer than the DVD and Blu-Ray menus on Roxio Toast and whatnot.)

This could definitely make for a nice secondary laptop for me (compared to my more powerful M1 MacBook Air I've been using a lot lately), especially since I've always thought a mid-2012 13" MacBook Pro would be nice to have, especially with the Thunderbolt and USB 3.0 ports and SDXC card slot and a working SuperDrive, but I previously could not afford even a secondhand one like this. Ahh, the upsides of working for an electronics recycling/reselling company and being the Apple expert there!
Once I get my next paycheck later this week, I'll be ordering the RAM upgrade and maybe the new battery for this! (Or I might wait until next week for the battery.) I've even installed VMWare Fusion on the Catalina drive, so I can make a couple of Windows virtual machines (a Windows XP one for old games, of course, and maybe a Windows 10 virtual machine for running certain Windows-only applications.)
 
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dandeco

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My RAM upgrade for the MacBook Pro came in...
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I sure love the easy user-serviceability of those unibody MacBooks...

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With the RAM maxed out, I even went and installed a Boot Camp partition with Windows 10! I don't plan to upgrade it to Windows 11 anytime soon though... (I'm saving that for my Dell tower.)
 

Jack Neill

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My 9,2 has 16GB ram and a 2TB SSD. Using OCLP running Big Sur flawlessly. If so inclined, and you run older macOS, the Superdrive can be taken out and another SSD installed a Raid 0 will really make it fly.
 
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BeatCrazy

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Nice post @dandeco!

How do I get iDVD 7.1.2? I occasionally burn home videos for friends/family and the Roxio Toast app I have from the App Store is pretty trash. I have the 2010 17" MacBook Pro running 10.13.6 (among many other Macs).
 
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Bleep55

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My 9,2 has 16GB ram and a 2TB SSD. Using OCLP running Big Sur flawlessly. If so inclined, and you run older macOS, the Superdrive can be taken out and another SSD installed a Raid 0 will really make it fly.
This is my first post and I hope it is in the correct thread. My 9.2 has 16GB of ram but only a 500GB SSD. This is my first Apple laptop. I have another identical 500GB SSD that I will install as soon as a CD drive adapter arrives. I have Bootcamp with Windows 10 and Big Sur running without any problems so far.
I have a couple of questions and I hope someone with more experience than me can answer. First...when I set up Raid 0 will I have to reinstall Big Sur, Bootcamp, and Windows 10 or will my current setup stay intact? Second question is about operating temps. I have Macs Fan Control installed monitoring CPU Core Avg. RPM at 3600 and the temp runs between 125-132F. The underside of the MacBook has a surface temp of 105F measured with an infrared thermometer. Are these temps okay? I will also re-paste when I have it apart to add the second SSD.
Thank You.
 

Jack Neill

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This is my first post and I hope it is in the correct thread. My 9.2 has 16GB of ram but only a 500GB SSD. This is my first Apple laptop. I have another identical 500GB SSD that I will install as soon as a CD drive adapter arrives. I have Bootcamp with Windows 10 and Big Sur running without any problems so far.
I have a couple of questions and I hope someone with more experience than me can answer. First...when I set up Raid 0 will I have to reinstall Big Sur, Bootcamp, and Windows 10 or will my current setup stay intact? Second question is about operating temps. I have Macs Fan Control installed monitoring CPU Core Avg. RPM at 3600 and the temp runs between 125-132F. The underside of the MacBook has a surface temp of 105F measured with an infrared thermometer. Are these temps okay? I will also re-paste when I have it apart to add the second SSD.
Thank You.
Creating a Raid 0 would destroy your current installs and you would have to restore from backups. My 9,2 runs about 50-100C depending on what I am using it for. I have not had much success running anything past High Sierra on a Raid 0 and APFS. Running APFS would be needed to OTA updates otherwise you would have to clone a working system from another Mac, which got old when I was running Mojave. There are a couple of guides out there for Mojave & Catalina but they didn't really work for me personally. The only Raid 0 I have right now is a MB 7,1 and I have it on HFS. I don't know if Big Sur can boot off HFS. I haven't tried it. I have a single MX500 in my 9,2 and I get pretty decent R/Ws. I would clean the fans and repaste regardless.
 
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dandeco

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I've never done RAID before, but it's likely if everything on the drive is duplicated to another drive the setup will stay intact.
BUT, on the topic of my MacBook Pro, the replacement battery I ordered came in!
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The order even included the appropriate screwdrivers for the job, including one for the tri-point screw. It'll definitely be handy to have one amongst my set of tools. And then I can bring the old failing battery into work to recycle (since I DO work for an electronics recycling/reselling company, after all.)

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The new battery in the process of charging.
 

Macdctr

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I have the Mid-2012 13-inch MBP i7 2.9GHz with 16GB RAM and installed two 1TB SSDs inside it. Yes, I removed the optical drive because I no longer required use of one and instead modded my OS so that I could connect the Apple Superdrive optical drive into any available USB port.

The procedure to mod the com.apple.Boot.plist file is located at this web address:



Be sure to disable SIP when doing this.
 

dandeco

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Very interesting. Though at work I have an external USB SuperDrive, and I was somehow able to get it to work on a Mac laptop that had a failed optical drive. Maybe I have one of the much newer models, or they made it easier to use it with Macs with failed built-in optical drives. (I also remember how when my college TV studio's video editing lab had those early 2009 24" iMacs, by the time we replaced them (with top-of-the-line mid-2017 21.5" Retina iMacs) roughly half of those iMacs had failed internal SuperDrives, so it was no big loss to us.)
 

dandeco

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I've been getting a few additional cables to use with my computers at home (along with bringing them to work for certain projects if need be.) Here's such an instance...
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Here I'm running my 2012 13" MacBook Pro in Target Disk Mode and hooked up to my M1 MacBook Air via Thunderbolt! I have an 0.5m Thunderbolt cable hooked up to my Thunderbolt 2-to-3 adapter for this. Makes it a lot easier and faster for copying enormous files (like my Final Cut Pro X library) than doing it via Ethernet, FireWire or Wi-Fi!
 

dandeco

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Oh, great! This afternoon I power on my MacBook Pro and boot it into Windows, and at first it was fine, but after logging into my Windows profile the display suddenly took on a blue tint! So I shut it down and tried rebooting, but this time, nothing on the screen showed up after the chime sounded, and then after a bit it went to a dark gray screen!
Today got fairly hot and humid, so I'm wondering if that messed up something in my Pro? I'm afraid I may have to return it to work to be recycled...
 

dandeco

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Well, I brought my 13" MacBook Pro with its' failing screen to work today and made an exchange...
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I put the 16 GB of RAM and the 1 TB SSD into this mid-2012 15" unibody MacBook Pro! We recently got a bunch of unibody MacBook Pros from 2009-2012 at my facility for me to prepare for resell, but I hadn't gotten to this one yet, and so I figured it could be a fair trade. (The 13" MacBook Pro I prepared for us to resell with 4 GB of RAM and a "NO GOOD" label explaining the video defect.)

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The About This Mac screen. Look at that processing speed; it's even a bit faster than my 2012 quad-core i7 Mac Mini, AND it also has a dedicated graphics card to boot! (An NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1 GB of dedicated VRAM.) The system works pretty much like it did in the 13" Pro, but the battery also needs to be replaced; it's so "dead" that when unplugging the computer and plugging it back in, I need to reset the date and time in order for the Internet connection to work properly! (Of course this won't be too hard, as on some of these 15" Pros I had to remove failed/defective batteries from them anyways, so it's an easy job for me.)

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My Windows 10 Boot Camp partition even works pretty well on it! I did have to install some updates, of course. But it even automatically detected and installed drivers for the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M!

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It's a lot nicer using Final Cut Pro in the 1440 x 900 resolution; even my MacBook Air has that despite the 13" screen!
 

dandeco

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This evening I got a little ambitious with my 15" 2012 MacBook Pro...

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Yep, I decided to upgrade it to Mac OS 12 Monterey, via the OpenCore Patcher utility! The installation went very well, and I even configured the system using the OpenCore patcher to boot without need of the thumb drive and to automatically go right into my Monterey install!

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Mandatory "About This Mac" shot. I can also now run the latest applications (like the Adobe CC 2022, the latest iMovie and GarageBand and Apple Pro Apps) on another Mac besides my M1 MacBook Air! And while it won't be as powerful as the Air, it'll be good to have this as a secondary computer, especially with the Boot Camp Windows 10 partition in place as well!
 

dandeco

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Lately I've been using my 2012 15" MacBook Pro at my workplace!
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It's noticeably faster and more up-to-date than my 2013 21" iMac running Mac OS 10.15 Catalina there. I was even able to download and install the DYMO Label software to use my work label printer with, and Microsoft Teams for communicating with my boss and other co-workers! And thanks to the network sharing features I can drag and drop files between the Pro and the iMac. Though I'll still use the iMac for printing out the "NO GOOD"/"Chrome OS Reset"/etc. label sheets and scanning in Chromebook serial numbers and the like.
 

dandeco

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And here's a little customization I applied to my 15" MacBook Pro!
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I bought a set of retro Apple rainbow logo stickers for Mac laptops with an illuminated Apple logo and applied this one to the back, just to show how much of an Apple fanboy I am!
 
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dandeco

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Right now I am using Apple Music on my 2012 15" MacBook Pro in recording my mixtape for Anthro New England 2022 - a literal mixtape to go with the convention's 1990s theme!
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