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iWork '09 Torrent Carrying OS X Trojan

maybe it's my education

Sure, I guess can understand your views. But I guess its due to my profession and background that I believe whatever is not illegal is,well, legal. Just because you don't agree with the law, does that give you a right to bash whoever does follow it? Would it not be the same as if you were bashing someone who drives 80 on a road where you are allowed to drive 80 just because you yourself think the speed limit should be 60 and you are driving 60 . If you have a problem take it up with the legislator not the person following the law and thus in my opinion doing nothing morally wrong or illegal.
 
hene01 said:
Sure, I guess can understand your views. But I guess its due to my profession and background that I believe whatever is not illegal is,well, legal. Just because you don't agree with the law, does that give you a right to bash whoever does follow it? Would it not be the same as if you were bashing someone who drives 80 on a road where you are allowed to drive 80 just because you yourself think the speed limit should be 60 and you are driving 60 . If you have a problem take it up with the legislator not the person following the law and thus in my opinion doing nothing morally wrong or illegal.
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Morality extends far beyond legality.
 
hene01 said:
Sure, I guess can understand your views. But I guess its due to my profession and background that I believe whatever is not illegal is,well, legal. Just because you don't agree with the law, does that give you a right to bash whoever does follow it? Would it not be the same as if you were bashing someone who drives 80 on a road where you are allowed to drive 80 just because you yourself think the speed limit should be 60 and you are driving 60 . If you have a problem take it up with the legislator not the person following the law and thus in my opinion doing nothing morally wrong or illegal.
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I'm curious as to what countries have such lax copyright laws?

Granted, American copyright law is archaic and authoritarian, if DMCA is any indication.

For anyone interested, considering 20,000 people downloaded iWork 09 illegally (just via torrent, not downloading from Apple and using another's serial/editing .plist), Apple lost $1.6 million dollars. Some may think that high, others too low.
 
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EricNau said:
Morality extends far beyond legality.
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Not for me. And to be honest, it doesn't really matter if it did. If everyone would be acting according to their own moral beliefs(if they are different from the law) we would have total chaos.
 
SydneyDev said:
I don't think macrumors.com should provide removal instructions. This is not a virus that will replicate to innocent users machines, it is a trojan that will only effect the pirates, so macrumors.com is helping pirates.
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Currently the botnet is attacking a website with a DDoS attack. The victims of this attack have done nothing wrong. In the future the trojan could download a payload that would send spam.

The victims are therefore anyone who uses websites or email. Helping people remove the trojan helps dismantle a botnet that could be harming any/all of us.
 
hene01 said:
Not for me. And to be honest, it doesn't really matter if it did. If everyone would be acting according to their own moral beliefs(if they are different from the law) we would have total chaos.
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Yes chaos, but a good chaos none the less.

It would require everyone to have moral beliefs in the first place. Which is why we have the law to start with.
 
AmbitiousLemon said:
Currently the botnet is attacking a website with a DDoS attack. The victims of this attack have done nothing wrong. In the future the trojan could download a payload that would send spam.

The victims are therefore anyone who uses websites or email. Helping people remove the trojan helps dismantle a botnet that could be harming any/all of us.
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Macrumors.com shold make it clear where they come down on the issue of copyright infringement and as a larger and growing internet web presence it better be on the side of the law. This message could be conveyed with a simple "we do not condone copyright infringement but want to advocate the removal of the trojan to reduce malicious attacks executed from infected machines".

The concern you are hearing from users in this thread is that maybe staff of macrumors thinks torrents are cool
 
illegallydead said:
Thanks arn for posting removal instructions.

It is good that MR is not judging and treating "Pirates" like the dirty scum of the earth like some people are expressing in this forum. I defy you to prove to me that any of you on here are the saints you claim to be...

I for one DL'd the torrent and just used the SN apple sent for the free trial, seeing as the DL from apple was shaping up to take 4x as long.
I am not infected (thankfully) but am very glad that MR has instructions on how to protect yourself if you are.
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nicely put!
 
plain stupidity. Apple is offering a 30 day trial and you can download it from apple.com and punch any serial number you find on the net without worrying about trojans. Apple is being really relax, too, not including serials on the boxed-versions. Shame on you, pirates!
 
The Torrent community usually is fast to scan their downloads and post about it's safety. Not to mention that certain torrent suppliers are known for their seeds (quality & safety).

What happens with the mac is that we think we're invincible and that's the exact type of mentality that someone can't wait to pop...
 
So, if you downloaded the trial from the site and only used a serial that wasn't in a torrent you need not worry right? Geez I got scared with this. I switched cause I wouldn't have to worry about this stuff.
 
soooo when will we see post "I think I have a virus or spyware on my computer....I THOUGHT APPLES DONT GET IT... I DONT KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED !!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:"
 
kitki83 said:
soooo when will we see post "I think I have a virus or spyware on my computer....I THOUGHT APPLES DONT GET IT... I DONT KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED !!!!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:"
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I've seen dozens of those in my time here, this won't bring that much of a spike.
 
dejo said:
What virus?
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I think he meant trojin. It seems easy to detect without a anti virus program. I just came back from tauw with the easy detection. Just follow this to see if ya got it or not. It's the same thing as I think was posted here. But just in case someones panicking here it is again.:

Look for /System/Library/StartupItems/iWorkServices

To remove it.
1) (open Terminal.app)
2) sudo su (enter password)
3) rm -r /System/Library/StartupItems/iWorkServices
4) rm /private/tmp/.iWorkServices
5) rm /usr/bin/iWorkServices
6) rm -r /Library/Receipts/iWorkServices.pkg
7) killall -9 iWorkServices
 
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