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Some people find it easier to just download the Trial version and transforming it in Retail with a simple sudo defaults write... blablabla... one line in the Terminal and the Trial version magically turns into a full Retail (after installing and before opening for the first time).
Downloading from Apple shouldn't bring Trojan problems I should think.
 
Just a comment:

Coming from a Windows world, I am quite impressed that 80% or more users in this thread are:

  1. Against Piracy
  2. Somewhat illiterate when it comes to Viruses and Trojans

In many cases, in a normal (Non Hacking) Windows community, about 90% of its users can define on the top of their tongue what the difference between a virus and a Trojan is. And while many Windows users wont admit it, they don't pay for most of their music/software.

I've also noticed that some users in this Mac community seem to be more untrustworthy to pirated software ,than rather respectful for copyrighted work.

Understand that a lot of Mac Software, especially from Apple, doesn't treat you like a thief after you've bought it.
 
A sinister force? Wow, is that what they're calling basement-dwelling nerds these days? :D

No doubt. I never thought that dork I sat next to in grade nine would become "sinister" and "malicious"

Coming from a Windows world, I am quite impressed that 80% or more users in this thread are:

1. Against Piracy
2. Somewhat illiterate when it comes to Viruses and Trojans


In many cases, in a normal (Non Hacking) Windows community, about 90% of its users can define on the top of their tongue what the difference between a virus and a Trojan is.

I think that 86% of all stats are made up on the spot.

I'm surprised how long it took for someone to write a Trojan. I'm also surprised that someone hasn't told the Mac community to run an rm terminal command to "scan" their hard drive clean.

s.
 
A sinister force? Wow, is that what they're calling basement-dwelling nerds these days? :D

It is naïve to believe that nerds are behind malware....

Perhaps this quote from Harvard Business School Press will interest you:

The Cybercrime Service Economy
Posted by Scott Berinato on February 1, 2008 12:29 PM

Anyone who doubts that internet commerce faces serious threats from online criminals should consider this: Criminal hacking has spawned a full-blown service economy--one that supports growing legions of relatively lower-skilled but fulsomely larcenous hackers.

In the past year, entrepreneurs, many of them based in Russia, have begun to create criminal hacking enterprises aimed not at stealing but at providing services to help others steal. Business has quickly taken off. Per unit of risk--of apprehension, prosecution, and incarceration--enabling online crime pays better than perpetrating it directly. Criminal services entrepreneurs are netting millions of dollars a month. Some experts estimate that, all told, they earned $1.5 billion in 2007.

Last year, two Russians created a subscription-based identity theft service. Rather than steal personal credentials themselves, the two hacked into PCs and then charged clients $1,000 per compromised machine for 30 days of unfettered access. The clients are betting that during the 30-day period (one billing cycle) victims will bank or otherwise submit personal data online.

To offer their subscription service, the hackers contracted with yet another service provider to obtain a sophisticated distribution system for the illicit code, called a bot, that they would use to infect the PCs. That distributor enticed website owners to hide its bot on their sites by promising weekly payments based on the volume of traffic, much the way newspapers are paid by advertisers according to the number of visitors to their websites.

Other service businesses aggregate large networks of compromised computers, called botnets, and rent out portions of their networks for whatever task the client has, perhaps to distribute spam, disable a competitor's website, or infiltrate a firm's network in order to steal intellectual property.

As with any service business, customers willing to pay extra can obtain premium offerings. The two hackers behind the subscription service will "clean up" your data--get rid of low-value information and generate helpful reports itemizing what you've stolen. The botnet rental operations offer ancillary consulting to maximize the effectiveness of your attack; some guarantee specified service levels or your money back.

http://conversationstarter.hbsp.com/2008/02/

...and this doesn't even address the issues of cyberwarfare by rogue states or terrorist organizations.

Now that OSX has been exposed as vulnerable, and having wide enough penetration to make it profitable -- there will be more. And the next ones will be better.
 
All these people being smug and happy that the pirates "get what they deserve" should remember that the writer of a trojan could just as easily make a trojan out of legitimate programs (for example an openoffice torrent, or the iWork 09 demo, or whatever) so it's not because you only download legal software that you are safe.
 
As I'm sure others have said, let me echo it here:

A virus exploits the weaknesses of an OS
A trojan exploits the weaknesses of the user of the OS

Yeah...but in the end, it's all the same to Grandma Mary and Uncle Pete no matter what you "technically" call it...a virus on the Mac.
 
Good

Who ever got there Mac infected with this trojan deserves it. Heck if you need a Office Suite but don't want to pay download NeoOffice.
 
Currently the botnet is attacking a website with a DDoS attack. The victims of this attack have done nothing wrong. In the future the trojan could download a payload that would send spam.

The victims are therefore anyone who uses websites or email. Helping people remove the trojan helps dismantle a botnet that could be harming any/all of us.

So true.

To sum up...
Case: (first real?) Trojan horse for Mac OS.
Victim: some website who gets DoS (not pirates nor end users)
Solution: remove the infected files (and possibly not download anything you're not 100% sure about).
 
Coming from a Windows world, I am quite impressed that 80% or more users in this thread are:
1. Against Piracy
2. Somewhat illiterate when it comes to Viruses and Trojans
In many cases, in a normal (Non Hacking) Windows community, about 90% of its users can define on the top of their tongue what the difference between a virus and a Trojan is.

I think that 86% of all stats are made up on the spot.

s.

Nice one! Hilarious.
I think that mr. steevo's statement is 91.8% accurate.
 
macscan SOFTWARE

macscan SOFTWARE is good for the mac? no is dangerous????? I see like a good tool for remove spyware? if exist...!

is good or bad?????
 
Not everyone has money to blow on software. $2500 for ADOBE CREATIVE SUITE 4 MASTER COLLECTION, I don't think so.
 
Not everyone has money to blow on software. $2500 for ADOBE CREATIVE SUITE 4 MASTER COLLECTION, I don't think so.

Then don't buy it. That's the point. If you really need the software, the work you will be doing with it will allow you to pay for the software within a month or so.

If you want it and can't justify the cost, you don't need it, and therefore don't deserve it.

"Oh, that DMC-12 DeLorean is too much to buy; I'll just steal it."
 
I'm sure that all the people complaining about piracy don't have a single pirated song in their music library and spent $40K to fill up their iPods. They're not running a hackintosh. They've never violated the DMCA by modifying hardware illegally. They've never shown a DVD to a large group of people. They've never sung Happy Birthday to You in public.

I suspect that most people in the USA violate copyright laws daily, in some form or another.

Not saying piracy isn't "wrong", but saying it's the same as stealing a car? Feh.

Let he who is without sin...
 
I'm sure that all the people complaining about piracy don't have a single pirated song in their music library

Nope.

and spent $40K to fill up their iPods.

I already had CDs. I buy from iTunes.

They're not running a hackintosh.

Nope. Fortunately, that's not illegal if you purchase a retail copy of Leopard and are an end-user who isn't selling the computer to someone else.

They've never violated the DMCA by modifying hardware illegally.

What falls under the DCMA? I don't know, so I can't tell you if I have or not.

They've never shown a DVD to a large group of people.

No... that's silly... :confused:

They've never sung Happy Birthday to You in public.

Nope. Only at home.
 
They're not running a hackintosh.

This item doesn't belong in your list.

If you buy OSX and ignore the EULA and install it on one Hackintosh, you haven't deprived Apple of software revenue, or stolen/pirated/whatever.

You ignored a possibly unenforceable set of rules, not the same.
 
Not everyone has money to blow on software. $2500 for ADOBE CREATIVE SUITE 4 MASTER COLLECTION, I don't think so.

And that's an excuse for stealing?
I say a pox on all those Torrent pricks!
Those idiots are some of the reason that Adobe and others have to charge what they do.
There is no justification for theft.
I can almost see software manufacturers using this as an anti-pirate tool.
Hmmmm....I wonder what Steve has been up to on his days off :rolleyes:
 
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