Oh dear god the Kool-Aid...THE KOOLAID.
We don't even know how this thing can print yet. Most likely you'll need a real computer to hook it up to for that.
LMAO!
But I do agree that the new mobile iWork rocks. 
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iWorks will kill MS Office
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LMAO!
But I do agree that the new mobile iWork rocks. and don't forget, if you use a Mac computer, you are but roughly 10% of the computer-using public. Macs don't rule. THey are the exception. ALways have been, and maybe always will be. Don't draw too broad of a conclusion from what YOU use. Statistics on PC use tells the tale--the overwhelming majority of computers run on non-Apple OS devices.
may be that is the problem , apple want to look good and they are very good at doing that, but for me when i use Office its for writing lab report with heavy statistic integration in the document , once in while i need to even draw shapes and insert things that iWork can't do
may be apple should learn "to learn" from others success, the way that windows is looking like OSX more and more, it would be a good idea to push iWork to have all the features of office MS but retain the good looks
It looked great - I can't even get my documents to look that good in iWork on my MacBut I do agree that the new mobile iWork rocks.
It was an important thing for Apple to do - it may not make them much money, but it showcased what the iPad is capable of.I think it is cool because you can export as an office file. Thats cool, because I need to send my documents to office people. If you watch the video, Steve Jobs confirms it.
http://video.allthingsd.com/video/boomtown-ipad-day-with-walt-mossberg/AA5A7F72-61B5-4D31-8301-02F9A72785DC
http://video.allthingsd.com/video/boomtown-ipad-day-with-walt-mossberg/AA5A7F72-61B5-4D31-8301-02F9A72785DC
I have iWork '09 and it does not save in office 2007 generic format, i.e, .docx, .xlsx. It only saves in .doc or .xls although office 2007 will read it and save it in the old format.
The Apple website for the iPad says:
"You can import iWork 09 and Microsoft Office documents and send documents in iWork 09 and PDF formats."
It doesn't say you can send in MS Office format.
If you have a link to better information please post it.
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For goodness sake, it is iWork - not iWorkS
With that said, I can see this move bringing in a few more iWork users should they buy a Mac after using iWork for iPad.
There is obviously no guarentee though, iWork is fantastic at consumer level and I think Pages is fantastic, as is Keynote, their ability to work with Office documents and save as office documents however means that because they can work on iPad version of iWork and return to Office on a computer means your argument holds no strength.
Sure one or two people when buying a new Mac having used it on the iPad might think hey it was great on iPad lets get it over Office for Mac, but on the whole that just won't happen.
People use Office at work, at school and at home, if I am moving from a PC to Mac I will have used Office throughout college and work etc, a few hours playing around on iWork using a soft keyboard on my iPad isn't going to make me get that for Mac over the office suite that is used EVERYWHERE, heck why would I, its not like if I buy office I cannot use iWork for iPad because its compatable.
It may win a few extra users, but nothing on the scale the OP suggests.
Get over it office is here to stay, iWork is nice too but IMO will never overtake office.
Besides MS is free to make MS Office Mobile for iPad, then your theory is mute anyway.
With that said, I can see this move bringing in a few more iWork users should they buy a Mac after using iWork for iPad.
There is obviously no guarentee though, iWork is fantastic at consumer level and I think Pages is fantastic, as is Keynote, their ability to work with Office documents and save as office documents however means that because they can work on iPad version of iWork and return to Office on a computer means your argument holds no strength.
Sure one or two people when buying a new Mac having used it on the iPad might think hey it was great on iPad lets get it over Office for Mac, but on the whole that just won't happen.
People use Office at work, at school and at home, if I am moving from a PC to Mac I will have used Office throughout college and work etc, a few hours playing around on iWork using a soft keyboard on my iPad isn't going to make me get that for Mac over the office suite that is used EVERYWHERE, heck why would I, its not like if I buy office I cannot use iWork for iPad because its compatable.
It may win a few extra users, but nothing on the scale the OP suggests.
Get over it office is here to stay, iWork is nice too but IMO will never overtake office.
Besides MS is free to make MS Office Mobile for iPad, then your theory is mute anyway.
Office 2007 for Mac is awful in my experience. Again the classic 80/20. And again as is almost always the case in computing, it's more like 95/5.
95% of the people use 5% of the features in MS Office. Those 5% of features are served extraordinarily well by many other office apps (Openoffice, iWork, etc.)
Can't wait to live with my iPad, and only my iPad. And when (not if) MS offers Office for the iPad, I'm willing to give it a shot.
95% of the people use 5% of the features in MS Office. Those 5% of features are served extraordinarily well by many other office apps (Openoffice, iWork, etc.)
Can't wait to live with my iPad, and only my iPad. And when (not if) MS offers Office for the iPad, I'm willing to give it a shot.
I doubt it. As other users have said, *everyone* uses MS Office apart from a teeny handful of the open-source Communists who prefer OpenOffice *gag* iWork '09 is great, but I see no practical reason to ditch MS Office, especially since there's the upcoming Cocoa-based release.
iWork '09 is great, but I see no practical reason to ditch MS Office, especially since there's the upcoming Cocoa-based release.
It's pretty awful in everyone's experience I expect but the 2007 Windows version is good, and 2008 for Mac looks like it's similar to that.
Pipe. Dream. The fact MS has a Mac version of Office means they won that battle. Even your open-source office programs are MS Office compatible.
Unless Apple is willing to make an Windows friendly version of it, it'll never infiltrate the business sector.
Sorry. iWork beating Office is a fantasy.
iWork is far superior to MS Office (PC version), IMO. The Mac version of Office is a joke. My daughter had to do some graphs in Excel for school. It involved averages and error bars. I bought her a Mac with Office 2008. No error bars. I thought I must be doing something wrong. The PC version would do it. A Google search revealed that MS disabled this in the Mac version. I installed iWork. Done perfectly and easily. Since the instructor wanted it in an Excel file, she simply saved it as an Excel file. I work with Pages and Keynote regularly on my Macbook Pro and Office 2007 on my work PC. iWork is much nicer. But too many PCs that cannot run iWork will keep Office as the primary suite.
The simple fact corporations use MS based software iWork has a very, very, very long way to go. Office is here for a long time, like it or not. Marketshare alone makes the OP's statement very far fetched.
I use iWork and convert myself but I'm not delusional enough to think iWork will overtake MS Office anytime soon.
I use iWork and convert myself but I'm not delusional enough to think iWork will overtake MS Office anytime soon.
In my opinion.
Pages > Word
Keynote > Powerpoint
Excel > Numbers.
I like iWork more than Office but word processing is my thing and Word uses way too much RAM. However, because Microsoft has a monopoly in Office Suites. iWork won't kill MS Office anytime soon.
Pages > Word
Keynote > Powerpoint
Excel > Numbers.
I like iWork more than Office but word processing is my thing and Word uses way too much RAM. However, because Microsoft has a monopoly in Office Suites. iWork won't kill MS Office anytime soon.
Um no. Read my previous post xD I read this post twice and noticed the... hilarity. No offense...
I'm also pretty sure it's iWork not iWorks.
I agree. Numbers really does have a long way to go. I have to keep Office installed just for Excel. I can't wait for the day to uninstall it.
I don't mind Google Docs, but you can run some companies with it (you could run my company, grossing millions per year, with it, but I think they're too corporate-minded to see it).
I use Bean when I want a good word processor on my desktop. OpenOffice is great for things like footnotes. Otherwise office suites are not for most people. I cannot see why home users think they need MS Office. Just my 2c.
Sure, but most people don't. Which is why I'm puzzled as to why most folks seem to think they need MS Office. Do what you want with your money but still...
If MS Office is priced close to iWork, then maybe. Otherwise you're mistaken.
I use it for one contact via Adium. Otherwise the contacts I know use ICQ (again, via Adium).
But look at it this way: which is more popular, HTML, Word or PDF? I'd say HTML. Yet they aren't competing. I wonder why that is...
Don't do it!!! Mac MS Office does not equal MS Office.
I think MS are doing it on purpose, however I have read that they are working on the next version to be more like the windows version. We will have to wait and see.
Unfortunately you still can't beat MS office for windows. That is why I run a Vmware Fusion session dedicated purely to MS Office work.
I favor iWork to Microsoft Office but as others have said, you must be on something to think that iWork will replace Microsoft Office. It's just way too popular and more powerful to be replaced by iWork. I love iWork and it's the only thing I use, however; I can not stand how it does not handle office files very well as others have said. It doesn't save them right nor does it open them right. The main reason I love iWork is because it's very easy to create great looking documents and power points but sometimes I think what's the point if it's just going to look like ***** to practically everyone else.
Office is the standard in the business community. Given the premium it costs to get a Mac, I don't see businesses making the transition to iWork any time soon. In order to get a foothold, Apple would HAVE to make iWork PC compatible and price it lower than Office. Even then, Apple would still have to make an iWork version of Project, Visio, etc,
But if it were just as easy as making a compatible and less expensive program, then open office would be killing MS Office. But its not.
What a lot of people don't understand is Windows is designed to run Office. Office is not designed to run on Windows. MS has said many times that the Office group runs things up there.
MS Office is not going anywhere.
But if it were just as easy as making a compatible and less expensive program, then open office would be killing MS Office. But its not.
What a lot of people don't understand is Windows is designed to run Office. Office is not designed to run on Windows. MS has said many times that the Office group runs things up there.
MS Office is not going anywhere.