macOS Java on Intel Macs

[Converted2Truth]

So are you guys saying that i should not even be programming java on the mac because it uses a GUI bridge to Cocoa? and won't be updated?

I don't think windows uses a UI bridge... cause the java windows look totally different (which i like actually).

 

[therevolution]

So are you guys saying that i should not even be programming java on the mac because it uses a GUI bridge to Cocoa? and won't be updated?

I don't think windows uses a UI bridge... cause the java windows look totally different (which i like actually).

No. AWT/Swing is not tied to Cocoa. What he's saying is that there's an optional Java->Cocoa bridge that lets you leverage some of the Cocoa APIs in Java. Apple stopped updating this bridge, so the latest Cocoa features are not supported. If you're doing pure Java, though, it's a non-issue.

 

[Converted2Truth]

k, just one last question: Has apple/sun come out with a native x86 JRE for the new intel macs?

You are all saying that you see a performance increase, but is it still going through rosetta?

 

[plinden]

k, just one last question: Has apple/sun come out with a native x86 JRE for the new intel macs?

You are all saying that you see a performance increase, but is it still going through rosetta?

The JRE is native. It's as fast compiling on my 17" Intel iMac (1.83GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM) as on a 2.26GHz, 2GB RAM, Pention M Dell laptop running Fedora Core 3 and 50% faster than the same Dell laptop running Windows. I don't use any IDE (I'm a command line junkie) so can't give you any hints on how any IDE works. If you really want to know, I'll install netbeans tonight and try it out - I'm interested myself ...

 

[Converted2Truth]

The JRE is native. It's as fast compiling on my 17" Intel iMac (1.83GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM) as on a 2.26GHz, 2GB RAM, Pention M Dell laptop running Fedora Core 3 and 50% faster than the same Dell laptop running Windows. I don't use any IDE (I'm a command line junkie) so can't give you any hints on how any IDE works. If you really want to know, I'll install netbeans tonight and try it out - I'm interested myself ...

That would be awesome.

Oh, and the only reason that i use an IDE is because hitting a button is alot faster than typing "javac ...." in a terminal. Maybe i would be more inclined to be a command line coder if i was really proficient at using vi or some other text editor that i could run in a terminal. So far, i only really use pico... and i don't really like that...

thanks for looking into this for me! look forward to the results

 

[plinden]

Oh, and the only reason that i use an IDE is because hitting a button is alot faster than typing "javac ...." in a terminal.

Actually, I find typing "ant build" followed thereafter by "!a" faster than lifting my hand off the keyboard grabbing the mouse and moving the cursor to a button on the screen, but then I'm really old school with this. I learned to program in college on a Vax mainframe back in 1984, where we were limited to one hour/week access, in a terminal room, where to get access to the login prompt would take 15 minutes of continually pressing "Enter". vi was a huge step up from edlin.


Edit: Ok, downloaded and installed NetBeans. I don't have a lot of time to play about with it tonight, but it's a native Intel application and seems pretty snappy to me. I was able to create a new project with my my latest webapps code, then build and deploy it in 12 seconds. Ok, there's not a lot of code there (just 44 classes) but that's a good deal quicker than my using the command line (having to copy the war file over and waiting for Tomcat to reload the webapp).

So I'd say you have nothing to worry about with Java on the Intel iMacs. I'm certainly extremely impressed with what they've managed to do.

 

[misfit]

What about this program? It should run on a Mac but it doesn't, it won't even start.
The sourcecode is available here : https://sourceforge.net/projects/geeboss/ . Is there a way for someone to edit this java based editor, so Mac-guitarists/GT-8 owners can use this? It can't be too hard for a Java programmer,
it's not from scratch, but the author is only PC-based, so he doesn't know where the Mac-bug is. The major issue is, we can't exchange patches on the GT-8, which is a guitar-multi-effect pedal with midi-implementation.

I guess you have to own such a pedal to check it, but not wanting to start is another issue I think