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John Gruber's iPad review

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Pretty much all good things to say. Also he's running iOS 11 beta and likes it so much he's not going back to 10.

https://daringfireball.net/2017/06/the_2017_ipad_pros

But if you are reckless enough to install the iOS 11 beta on the new iPad Pro? Holy smokes is this better. I used the iPad Pro for a full week with iOS 10.3.2 because that’s the product that’s shipping, but after upgrading to iOS 11 beta 1 this morning and using it to write this entire review,3 I’m just blown away by how much more useful this machine is, and how much easier it is to work with 5 or 6 apps at a time.

I would never recommend running a beta of any OS on any device that’s used for production purposes, so don’t take this as such, but for me personally, I can’t see going back to iOS 10.3.2 on any iPad that can handle it. It feels like a hand has been untied from behind my back, and this amazing hardware has finally been allowed to run free.
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I already have B1 installed on my iPad. Surprisingly it's much more stable then my iPhone running the same beta. As soon as I get it, I have to upgrade it to migrate my information from my old iPad so I was planning to do it anyway.

Either which way, iOS 11 is definitely more iPad-centric then the last few iOS releases.
 
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I’d agree with John that iOS 11 is a keeper. The dock is sheer brilliance. The apps on the left are the ones that you choose and are always there. No endless scrolling to find them. And the three apps on the right are ones that are not in your dock but that your iPad using AI figures that you may want to use. Excellent solution that strikes a balance between static and dynamic.
 
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myrtlebee said:
I actually don't care for this at all. Is there a way to turn it off and simply have the apps you chose?
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Isn't that essentially what it's doing - placing the apps you use most there?
 
Rogifan said:
Isn't that essentially what it's doing - placing the apps you use most there?
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I want to put which apps I want where I want them. Bottom line. I don't use any of Apple's predictive "smart" features - from photo albums, to the keyboard, to safari "frequently used", you name it. I like being in control of my stuff. I want things arranged how I want them, period.
 
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myrtlebee said:
I want to put which apps I want where I want them. Bottom line. I don't use any of Apple's predictive "smart" features - from photo albums, to the keyboard, to safari "frequently used", you name it. I like being in control of my stuff. I want things arranged how I want them, period.
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I thought the apps on the right were the "last used" apps, not anything that's been predicted, in order to switch back to something you may have recently closed.

Regardless, this is early beta OS11...a couple versions yet to tweak things here and there and add/remove.
 
John loves another Apple product?
Is water still wet?
Sky still blue?

lol - Joking of course.
I do enjoy his podcast in spots, but honestly, I'd look basically anywhere else for objective reviews of an Apple product.
 
turbineseaplane said:
John loves another Apple product?
Is water still wet?
Sky still blue?

lol - Joking of course.
I do enjoy his podcast in spots, but honestly, I'd look basically anywhere else for objective reviews of an Apple product.
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Yes "Full disclosure: I went back to my Mac to write these 3 footnotes. That’s due more to the byzantine way I mark footnotes up than any limitation inherent to iOS vs. MacOS. But it feels worth noting"

Interesting point though about Apple not wanting to shout too much about performance, given their liaison with Intel.
 
turbineseaplane said:
John loves another Apple product?
Is water still wet?
Sky still blue?

lol - Joking of course.
I do enjoy his podcast in spots, but honestly, I'd look basically anywhere else for objective reviews of an Apple product.
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It's interesting to me that you perceive Gruber as biased; it may be a distorting side effect of the anti Apple bias of much of the tech press/pundits. To me, Gruber seems quite objective and no-bull.
 
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penajmz said:
The first thing I’m doing on my 10.5 pro is installing iOS 11 on it.
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Same here! Definitely a tiny bit risky, but I want this iPad running on iOS 11 from day one. I can deal with some minor bugs. I also enjoy the beta process and seeing the changes and improvements every couple weeks.
 
DNichter said:
Same here! Definitely a tiny bit risky, but I want this iPad running on iOS 11 from day one. I can deal with some minor bugs. I also enjoy the beta process and seeing the changes and improvements every couple weeks.
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I’ve been running the beta on my air 2 and pro 12.9”, yes there are some bugs but I can deal with them. iOS 11 brings way too much to the iPad for me to ever go back to iOS 10 now.
 
penajmz said:
I’ve been running the beta on my air 2 and pro 12.9”, yes there are some bugs but I can deal with them. iOS 11 brings way too much to the iPad for me to ever go back to iOS 10 now.
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Awesome. From what I have read, most people are pretty happy with this first beta on their iPad's. Even going as far as saying it seems more stable than the iPhone build.
 
DNichter said:
Awesome. From what I have read, most people are pretty happy with this first beta on their iPad's. Even going as far as saying it seems more stable than the iPhone build.
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I can attest to that, I have the same experience. Hopefully there a new beta next week that squashes some bugs though.
 
bigpoppamac31 said:
I personally would rather have the Apps in the dock which I want to be there. Not ones Apple thinks I want. I'm the one using it not them.
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I would also strongly prefer that. I use my iPad at home or at work. If I play a bunch of games at home, nobody at work needs to see that when I pull up the dock. I want strictly productivity stuff there.
 
nutriousmitten said:
I thought the apps on the right were the "last used" apps, not anything that's been predicted, in order to switch back to something you may have recently closed.

Regardless, this is early beta OS11...a couple versions yet to tweak things here and there and add/remove.
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I don't care what it is- predicted, last used, or frequently used. I don't have iOS 11 now so I don't know. But either way, I would like the option to turn it off. And that's why I'm asking others if it is there or not.
 
myrtlebee said:
I don't care what it is- predicted, last used, or frequently used. I don't have iOS 11 now so I don't know. But either way, I would like the option to turn it off. And that's why I'm asking others if it is there or not.
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I would think this is part of the "Siri Suggestions" in settings, which you can turn off. I will attempt later and follow up if not answered.
 
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