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3x 2000, and the last one 1000.

I guess the reduction makes sense, given that the first delta was $10, and after that $5, and they might still go on for 20 days.

24K$ left to get to 1M$.
 

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No, they are currently at 6371.

They reached their goal of 2000 in less than 3 hours.

And it's only currently available for EU, Norway, Switzerland, Russia, USA, Hong Kong, China, and India.

UPDATE: Australia and Canada added.
 
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Ah, no. It was 2x 1000, 1x 2000, and now 1000 again.

That makes a current total of 4444.

So the goal was 1000.

That would be consistent with the minimum batch requirement one sees many times in alibaba from manufacturers.
 

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the problem is that it is coming on MAY 2015 (estimated). it is way too far for me to buy it now.

you get it for 229 dollars (estimated 249 (+20 for possible shipping)) but you still need to wait six months. i can wait and buy it from a local shop for 249 when it comes, so just to save 20 dollars now is pointless. i wonder can they even ask for that price on may... if it had been here within a month or two, i could have ordered it. but six months?
 

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100 euro discount on Jolla phone to celebrate the million.

As I am not convinced about buying any other phone, I ordered one.
 

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Jolla made the tablet available to Australia and Canada now, but the indiegogo page is not yet updated.
 

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Crowd funding and tech products should not go hand in hand. You are funding an idea, and in the US at least, the consumer gets screwed over if the company decides to simply take your money and run. Not to mention lack of support and likely archaic tech by the time you get it.

If you 'back' this, prepare for the worst.
 

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Crowd funding and tech products should not go hand in hand. You are funding an idea, and in the US at least, the consumer gets screwed over if the company decides to simply take your money and run. Not to mention lack of support and likely archaic tech by the time you get it.

If you 'back' this, prepare for the worst.

I normally agree that it is too risky to buy something by crowdfunding, but this is a company with a serious track record and you're backing a cause.

If you are afraid about losing such amount of money, you can always donate 10 euro and hope for nothing else than having more platform options in the future.

If all you want is any tablet for 200, you can obviouly expect new products and reduced prices from other vendors in 6 months.
 

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I normally agree that it is too risky to buy something by crowdfunding, but this is a company with a serious track record and you're backing a cause.

If you are afraid about losing such amount of money, you can always donate 10 euro and hope for nothing else than having more platform options in the future.

If all you want is any tablet for 200, you can obviouly expect new products and reduced prices from other vendors in 6 months.

If it has "serious track record" why does it need funding to begin with?
 

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If it has "serious track record" why does it need funding to begin with?

By serious track record I mean that the team has experience in quality engineering, and that they are already selling and manufacturing a product.

It does not mean they have unlimited funds, even if they have received backing from investors, including seed help from Nokia and the Finnish government.

Nokia, Intel and others invested around 1 billion from 2004 to 2011 in the abandoned Meego. Jolla leveraged the open source parts.

The Sailfish Alliance raised around 200 million euro.
 

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By serious track record I mean that the team has experience in quality engineering, and that they are already selling and manufacturing a product.

It does not mean they have unlimited funds, even if they have received backing from investors, including seed help from Nokia and the Finnish government.

Nokia, Intel and others invested around 1 billion from 2004 to 2011 in the abandoned Meego. Jolla leveraged the open source parts.

The Sailfish Alliance raised around 200 million euro.


Actually if they are going crowd funding, it would mean the investor well had run dry.

I hope they are not giving up on the smartphones.
 

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Actually if they are going crowd funding, it would mean the investor well had run dry.

I hope they are not giving up on the smartphones.

I don't think so, the phone was also initially sold with preorders.

It seems a good way to lower production costs by consolidating into a larger batch without risking overdoing it (like BlackBerry who had to write off 1 billion out of their Z10 inventory).

It seems a good idea to evolve their software by producing a wifi-only product that could potentially be sold basically everywhere, unlike their phone which is more constrained. Remember that Jolla sees themselves as a software company because they are small, and that is where the Sailfish Alliance comes into play.

But I read that a new phone would be expected for next year.
 

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3 stretch goals added, including optional cellular upgrade for $30.

Regarding a previous question, this is more crowdselling than crowfunding. The hardware design seemed largely done, and the tablet was going to be made anyway.
 

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- There is now a perk since a few days which consists of a pack of tablets + marketing materials at a discount.

- There is now a campaign-exclusive Finnish wood case

- You can now get a free case or a free tablet by getting other people to buy (I am not participating in this).
 
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Menneisyys2

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Crowd funding and tech products should not go hand in hand. You are funding an idea, and in the US at least, the consumer gets screwed over if the company decides to simply take your money and run. Not to mention lack of support and likely archaic tech by the time you get it.

If you 'back' this, prepare for the worst.

In the US. Finns are far more serious and - this isn't an offense towards all Americans! - honest WRT business.
 

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First stretch goal reached: 128GB card support included.
 

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$190 off tablet+phone combo.

Also available as upgrade for people who already ordered the tablet.

Combo only available to EU, Norway, and Switzerland (the countries where the phone is already available to which Jolla sells it directly).

The phone part includes VAT, so I don't know what happens to those out of the EU.

Tablet taxes, fees and duties still not included.

2 days to go.
 
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DeathTheKid

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I take it this isn't available in the states?

From what I have seen Sailfish does have potential. It is kind of hard to break into the smartphone/tablet os arena right now.
 

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The tablet does ship to the US. What you cannot get is the phone, which probably was not sent for approval there because it would need different LTE bands I guess (whether it has 3G 1700 or not can be ignored, in any case).

It might be interesting if on this platform you would really be able to properly edit text.
 

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The second stretch goal has just been reached. The tablet will have a split screen mode.

10 hours to go.
 
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