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Jubler alternative for GG and .srt editing

rebelo

rebelo

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Hi there,

I use Jubler a lot for SRT (subtitles) editing. I'm considering it won't work on Golden Gate. Jubler is so great, a tiny piece of software that just works, but it needs Rosetta. It's the best and fastest SRT editor I've found. And it's free. Would anyone have a replacement suggestion?

Thanks a lot.
 
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It looks like it's open source, being actively maintained on GitHub. Almost certainly just a few build settings that need to be tweaked to compile for arm. Either that or they don't have a new enough machine to compile their software for arm, as is the case for quite a few multiplatform open source projects.
 
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MacOS Sonoma 64 bit · Issue #46 · teras/Jubler

Are there any plans to offer a version that will run on the latest Mac?
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Replacing MPlayer OSX Extended with another software · Issue #55 · teras/Jubler

Hello, I have been using Jubler for many years and thank you for its continued existence. However, I notice that MPlayer OSX Extended, which Jubler makes use of, is now a deprecated program. Would ...
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Looks like there was some discussion, and they use a video preview library which isn't available on ARM.
I suspect that there will be increasing interest on this as the Rosetta deadline bears down.
 
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Actually, Rosetta still exists on macOS 27 (GG). Rosetta (for Intel applications) will be discontinued in macOS 28, which is next year’s release. You can still use Jubler in GG just fine.

Not sure why, but a lot of people seem to think their Intel applications will stop working in GG. This is not the case yet, and won’t be until macOS 28.
 
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KoolAid-Drink said:
Not sure why, but a lot of people seem to think their Intel applications will stop working in GG.
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Probably because Apple is nagging them with notifications "Support ending for Intel-based apps"

Apple's support page "Using Intel-based apps on a Mac with Apple silicon"
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102527
"Rosetta is currently available for any Mac with Apple silicon, and it will remain available through the forthcoming macOS 27 — the next major macOS release. Starting with computers using macOS 28, Rosetta functionality will be available only for certain older, unmaintained games that rely on Intel-based frameworks."

Get rid of the messsages "Support ending for Intel-based apps"
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rosetta-problem.2482023/post-34596929

Get Rosetta pkg links directly from Apple
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rosetta-problem.2482023/post-34577729

I always wondered who uses Jubler, it's such a terrible app. 🙂
For the last 20 years I've been using Subtitle Workshop. https://subworkshop.sourceforge.net Discontinued in 2013, it's still the best app for synchronizing subtitles. As it's Windows only, I use it in CrossOver.
 
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bogdanw said:
Probably because Apple is nagging them with notifications "Support ending for Intel-based apps"

Apple's support page "Using Intel-based apps on a Mac with Apple silicon"
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102527
"Rosetta is currently available for any Mac with Apple silicon, and it will remain available through the forthcoming macOS 27 — the next major macOS release. Starting with computers using macOS 28, Rosetta functionality will be available only for certain older, unmaintained games that rely on Intel-based frameworks."

Get rid of the messsages "Support ending for Intel-based apps"
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rosetta-problem.2482023/post-34596929

Get Rosetta pkg links directly from Apple
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/rosetta-problem.2482023/post-34577729

I always wondered who uses Jubler, it's such a terrible app. 🙂
For the last 20 years I've been using Subtitle Workshop. https://subworkshop.sourceforge.net Discontinued in 2013, it's still the best app for synchronizing subtitles. As it's Windows only, I use it in CrossOver.
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You're right, I was led to believe all Rosetta apps would stop working because of the end of support for Intel processors. I'm glad we can still use Jubler for a while. Jubler might be terrible for sync and other advanced stuff, but for quick editing and quick exporting it works flawlessly. I tried Aegis, feels quite bloated. Subtitle Workshop is too much for quick edits of 3-min subtitles. Thanks!
 
Aegisub is the one nobody's mentioned yet. The original SourceForge build is dead but there are a couple of actively maintained forks on GitHub that compile cleanly for Apple Silicon, and the fork I run ships its own ffmpeg-backed video preview, so you skip the MPlayer OSX dependency entirely. SRT in/out is a checkbox and the timing tools are miles ahead of Jubler once you get past the dense UI. Main catch is the learning curve coming from Jubler's two-pane simplicity — first hour feels overwhelming, then it clicks and you wonder how you ever lived without the audio waveform timing.
 
bogdanw said:
‎iCaption is free in the App Store and supports "Apple Silicon processors, including M2."
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/icaption/id470458179
I can't test it because "This app is currently not available in your country or region."
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I'll give iCaption a try. About Aegis, MacOS blocks the program from running smoothly. You have to manually whitelist the app under Security & Privacy in System Settings. At this day and age, really? Sounds odd, so I just stopped using it.
 
4 bit 9d api said:
It's your lucky day. SubtitleEdit 5 just released and it's now on macOS. I've been using the Windows version for years and it's far better than any other subtitling software.

github.com

Releases · SubtitleEdit/subtitleedit

the subtitle editor :). Contribute to SubtitleEdit/subtitleedit development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
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SubtitleEdit has the same issue as Aegis: not certified for MacOS. Whitelisting a non-certified app on MacOS is really an unnecessary friction and kinda lame after all these years. Why do devs keep insisting on this? 99% of home users won't even touch their app like this.

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rebelo said:
SubtitleEdit has the same issue as Aegis: not certified for MacOS. Whitelisting a non-certified app on MacOS is really an unnecessary friction and kinda lame after all these years. Why do devs keep insisting on this? 99% of home users won't even touch their app like this.

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Apple is purposely deceiving with the message “could not verify ...is free of malware’.
The app is free of malware and Apple could of course verify this with XProtect.
SubtitleEdit-macOS-ARM64.dmg https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f1793a7b8d8a66338b3515bcb9499a0bc847382ed7607c0f4cdc3c28f69030c3

But Apple wants to force developers to sign the apps and submit them for notarization. For that, developers have to pay 99 USD/year. Developers of free open-source software don’t want to pay the Apple tax.

To prove that Apple is lying, it’s enough to drag the Subtitle Edit app from the dmg into Applications, just as normal, and remove the quarantine attribute from Terminal:

Code: 
xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Subtitle\ Edit.app

The app starts without any error message.

The developer recommends to remove the quarantine attribute recursively, then sign the app with an ad-hoc certificate.
https://github.com/SubtitleEdit/subtitleedit#macos
Code: 
sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine "/Applications/Subtitle Edit.app"
sudo codesign --force --deep --sign - "/Applications/Subtitle Edit.app"
 
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rebelo said:
Why do devs keep insisting on this? 99% of home users won't even touch their app like this.
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99% of home users don’t need to edit subtitles so who cares? As bogdanw said you just need to certify it yourself. This is a person who dedicated years of their time making an open source application and just made it cross platform for the first time. They don’t want to waste $99/year on a developer account to certify an app they don’t profit from. As he said on GitHub feel free to gift him a subscription, or continue to use inferior software.
 
4 bit 9d api said:
99% of home users don’t need to edit subtitles so who cares? As bogdanw said you just need to certify it yourself. This is a person who dedicated years of their time making an open source application and just made it cross platform for the first time. They don’t want to waste $99/year on a developer account to certify an app they don’t profit from. As he said on GitHub feel free to gift him a subscription, or continue to use inferior software.
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Dude, really? Almost everyone working in ANY media sector or audiovisual business needs to edit/check/export subtitles quite frequently, not to mention videomakers and editors. The majority of them won't even bother with this kind of friction of certifying apps under the hood, even less with a terminal command they don't understand.

It doesn't matter if an app is freeware or not, if a developer can't come up with $99 per YEAR, well, what can I say? It makes one blank of arguments 🙂) When you ask "who cares?", well, that's probably what the developers are thinking. Hopefully this mindset works for them. Cheers.
 
rebelo said:
Dude, really? Almost everyone working in ANY media sector or audiovisual business needs to edit/check/export subtitles quite frequently, not to mention videomakers and editors. The majority of them won't even bother with this kind of friction of certifying apps under the hood, even less with a terminal command they don't understand.

It doesn't matter if an app is freeware or not, if a developer can't come up with $99 per YEAR, well, what can I say? It makes one blank of arguments 🙂) When you ask "who cares?", well, that's probably what the developers are thinking. Hopefully this mindset works for them. Cheers.
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lol okay. As I said continue using inferior software because you can't take less than 1% of the time it took you to write this post to run a terminal command.
 
rebelo said:
Why do devs keep insisting on this? 99% of home users won't even touch their app like this.
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Most of these devs aren't focusing on Mac as a primary platform, don't have a high percentage of Mac users, might not even have a Mac to do serious testing with, and don't see a need to accede to Apple's "demand" to pay to have the app certified. (No other desktop platform requires this.) They'll have an attitude more like "you're lucky you're getting a Mac build at all". If it's an app that you like or need, just gotta roll with it.
 
4 bit 9d api said:
It's your lucky day. SubtitleEdit 5 just released and it's now on macOS. I've been using the Windows version for years and it's far better than any other subtitling software.

github.com

Releases · SubtitleEdit/subtitleedit

the subtitle editor :). Contribute to SubtitleEdit/subtitleedit development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
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Seems to be a good program for editing subtitles. Interesting..I cannot find a way to "Left justify" 2 line-subtitles? Is there an easy way to do this in the program? I don't see an option. Any help would be appreciated.

I use: Subtitle Edit Pro-Video Editor. Old interface but has some handy functions. I am sure the developer will not update it once Rosetta is gone, but will probably have to use older Macs when doing the work. I don't get a message that it will not work while I test Golden Gate...but it will probably show up as it needs Rosetta.

I hope the developers of SubtitleEdit 5 take a look at other subtitle programs like Subtitle Edit Pro and port some other functions into SubtitleEdit 5 that it doesn't currently have. Would love for SubtitleEdit 5 to be my main editor going forward.

Thanks for the information. This looks promising. Hope Apple's FCP team develops more functions for subtitles.
 
Thanks! Did not see the option. "Alignment.." after right-clicking gives many options to arrange the text.
 
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