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Whatever happened to the old saying 'never be an early adopter', re there sometimes being manufacturing problems in early production runs? Tie that in with the dubious sounding but oft quoted only buy a new iMac up to three months after it's released, otherwise hold out for the next gen... and that puts optimum purchase date at, when?

Stop stressing, buy now and have fun! Or if you can hold out, wait! It's all good.
 
Whatever happened to the old saying 'never be an early adopter', re there sometimes being manufacturing problems in early production runs? Tie that in with the dubious sounding but oft quoted only buy a new iMac up to three months after it's released, otherwise hold out for the next gen... and that puts optimum purchase date at, when?

Stop stressing, buy now and have fun! Or if you can hold out, wait! It's all good.

Thanks for trying to guess all the stuff floating through my mind this weekend :eek:

So basically your :apple: advice is - buy now and be happy, BUT if I can wait, then try to wait until at least 2-3 months after the next iMac has been launched, because early adopters take all the heat and cr_ap from the Apple iMac production team :p
 
Thanks for trying to guess all the stuff floating through my mind this weekend :eek:

So basically your :apple: advice is - buy now and be happy, BUT if I can wait, then try to wait until at least 2-3 months after the next iMac has been launched, because early adopters take all the heat and cr_ap from the Apple iMac production team :p

I know people argue it. And they can argue it until they are blue in the face. Some people want to have the cutting edge stuff. For some, as you've seen, if a new Mac comes out tomorrow, Macs bought last week were a bad purchase. Entitled to that opinion of course, they are wrong. If you buy an iMac now, you will have a computer that not only works, but is very effective and competitive for YEARS to come (especially with the specs you named. My imac is comparable minus the SSD, and there isn't a task one, that this thing doesn't absolutely scream with.) If you can wait, I would wait. The new iMac would be out already, if not for a problem delaying it. It's literally around the corner, but no one knows when yet.

But like I was saying earlier, if you buy now, and one comes out next week, if you like what you have, and it does what you need, why bother about it? Like was already posted... If you wait a few months for the kinks to get "worked out" like some advise, you'll be closer to another refresh. Then it will be "should I have waited a few months more?". I agree with part of an earlier post against me, if you buy on day one of the new release, you'll get the maximum life out of your purchase for the same money. Is it technically the smartest buy? Yes. If you buy the highest end now as you're planning, and it's released next week will yours be obsolete? Not even close. Period. That's one of the beautiful things about running Mac hardware with OS X. A 2007 or 2008 or even older, can still do the same tasks as a 2011. Slower, sure, but hardly obsolete or useless.

No one can really answer for you. I can say that I bought this iMac knowing the new ones were months away. I'm not worried. There will be another new one when I'm ready to update again, and this one does everything I need, lightning fast. There's always something to wait for. Just go with what you feel best about, and don't look back. The 2010 model is amazing. The 2011 model will be amazing. The 2012 model even more so, and so on.
 
You are thinking about it all wrong....

If you truely want to wait and really want an iMac, but you need a computer now; get on ebay and buy an excellent condition Macbook Pro that still has an applecare warranty. You shouldn't have to spend any more than 1,000-1,200 for a mid 2009 model which should be more than enough for you. When the new iMacs come out you can basically sell it for what you paid, or even a little more if you get a good deal. No loss. I have done the same thing many times.
 
Personally I would have waited for Thunderbolt. The one peeve I have about my 27 inch imac is the lack of sata connection. I edited a short film with 2 TB of HD footage recently. Moving files back, and forth to my firewire, and usb2 external drives was reeeeeally time consuming.
 
I still have until Monday morning to decide and trust me guys, I'm contemplating one thing one moment and another thing the other moment....... I'm at work currently and sit in front of the PC on Apple store trying to decide what to get and what not to get :D

I will finance the next Mac I buy (36 months loan), wheter it's the iMac 27" Ultimate or the MacBook pro 15 Ultimate - they will roughtly cost the same, give or take $3-$400

I need some kind of laptop for University - but it's mostly note taking (Law and Philosophy) so I pretty much think a wireless bluetooth keyboard, a new iPad 2 and a nice Cinema case from Pielframa ( www.pielframa.com ) will do the trick for me, when I'm out of the house :)

So I'm thinking of just getting the iMac 27 Ultimate NOW, then sell it when the new imac is released in 3-4-5 months time and just accept the loss :apple:

I need new Mac gear pretty soon :eek:

I figure if I buy the iMac 27" and pay the $3,500 it costs and then hope I can sell it for $2,500 in 5-6 months time. Is this a realistic price with Apple care included ?

As far as I know Apple Care is non-transferable, as in only valid if the machine is owned by the person who registered the Apple Care. It doesn't make sense to buy Apple Care if you aren't planning to keep it longer than its one year included warranty.
 
As far as I know Apple Care is non-transferable, as in only valid if the machine is owned by the person who registered the Apple Care. It doesn't make sense to buy Apple Care if you aren't planning to keep it longer than its one year included warranty.

Indeed if you sell it while its under Applecare, Applecare goes with it to the new owner. It can be transferred :) People do it all the time, in fact, it's one of the major selling points when one tries to sell a used Mac to another person. It's a wonderful system.

Apple Terms and Conditions said:
Originally Posted by Apple Computer Terms and Conditions
6. Transfer of Plan
You may transfer this Plan to a new owner of the Covered Equipment by sending or faxing notice of transfer to AppleCare Administration, P.O. Box 149125,
Austin, TX 78714–9125, U.S. (fax number 512–674–8125). You must provide the Plan Agreement Number, the serial numbers of the Covered Equipment
being transferred, proof of purchase of the Plan, and the name, address, telephone number and email address of the new owner.
 
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I still have until Monday morning to decide and trust me guys, I'm contemplating one thing one moment and another thing the other moment....... I'm at work currently and sit in front of the PC on Apple store trying to decide what to get and what not to get :D

I will finance the next Mac I buy (36 months loan), wheter it's the iMac 27" Ultimate or the MacBook pro 15 Ultimate - they will roughtly cost the same, give or take $3-$400

I need some kind of laptop for University - but it's mostly note taking (Law and Philosophy) so I pretty much think a wireless bluetooth keyboard, a new iPad 2 and a nice Cinema case from Pielframa ( www.pielframa.com ) will do the trick for me, when I'm out of the house :)

So I'm thinking of just getting the iMac 27 Ultimate NOW, then sell it when the new imac is released in 3-4-5 months time and just accept the loss :apple:

I need new Mac gear pretty soon :eek:

I figure if I buy the iMac 27" and pay the $3,500 it costs and then hope I can sell it for $2,500 in 5-6 months time. Is this a realistic price with Apple care included ?
You're going to finance it and then sell it for ~$1000 loss? Just wow.
 
Dont buy a timecapsule, their prone to failure. Buy your ram from OWC along with your solid state drive too as they are cheaper and faster. A good way to make a back up is to buy an OWC enclosure and a western digital caviar green 2TB
 
Dont buy a timecapsule, their prone to failure. Buy your ram from OWC along with your solid state drive too as they are cheaper and faster. A good way to make a back up is to buy an OWC enclosure and a western digital caviar green 2TB
I concur with this. Also, you can get an Airport Extreme Base Station and connect a USB drive of your choice. Get one of the Iomega MiniMax drives or an OWC NewerTech miniStack if you're into it matching. :)
 
Also, you can get an Airport Extreme Base Station and connect a USB drive of your choice. Get one of the Iomega MiniMax drives or an OWC NewerTech miniStack if you're into it matching. :)

Exactly what I do for my personal information backups :) Can add a +1 as it works wonderfully, and isn't prone to the issues that seem to crop up with Time Capsules. (Though I've never used one of those so can't speak to any negative experiences)
 
Exactly what I do for my personal information backups :) Can add a +1 as it works wonderfully, and isn't prone to the issues that seem to crop up with Time Capsules. (Though I've never used one of those so can't speak to any negative experiences)
The only problem I've noticed is that the AEBS freaks out and locks up quite a bit if you connect more than two external USB hard drives. Right now I have one 3TB external and one 1TB external connected but when I had yet another 1TB connected it would require frequent resets. As it stands now with two drives it works like a champ.

Considering the biggest Time Machine you can get is 2TB, I don't really see the problems I've experienced as limiting. If I ever need more network storage space I'll just replace my 1TB drive with another 3TB drive -- then I'll have 6TB total!
 
The only problem I've noticed is that the AEBS freaks out and locks up quite a bit if you connect more than two external USB hard drives. Right now I have one 3TB external and one 1TB external connected but when I had yet another 1TB connected it would require frequent resets. As it stands now with two drives it works like a champ.

Considering the biggest Time Machine you can get is 2TB, I don't really see the problems I've experienced as limiting. If I ever need more network storage space I'll just replace my 1TB drive with another 3TB drive -- then I'll have 6TB total!

I'll have to try 3 drives for giggles to try to replicate that :) As it stands, I have two 2TB drives, and haven't had any trouble thus far. Sounds like your 6TB plan is a good one :D
 
This makes no sense. My old iMac G5 can still run Final Cut Express, so if I didn't have money to spend, I could still run the software I need to run even though it is 6 years old. It would just be very slow compared to a new machine.

It comes down simply to whether you can wait or not. I cannot wait and so I'm buying a refurbed 27" i7. In fact, I'm planning on buying the 2009 2.8 i7 for budgetary reasons and I'm not worried about it all cause I cannot wait longer and it will still be blazing fast compared to my Macbook Unibody 2.0GhZ Core2Duo.

I know the new sandy bridges will be faster, but in the end since I cannot spend more than $1600 and cannot wait, how many seconds faster they render will be moot cause the i7 2.8 will still be rendering lights out faster than my Macbook and that's all I'll be thinking about.

There's nothing stopping you from running the same version of Final Cut Express forever on that G5. However, if you wanted to keep up with the rest of the Mac platform (i.e. be able to run the latest OS and software that requires it) you're cut off because Snow Leopard requires an Intel Mac. My Core Duo iMac, that I bought in February 2006 that I replaced with the Mac mini in my sig, can run Snow Leopard, but it won't be able to run Lion when it comes out. If I had bought the iMac thereafter, I would be able to run Lion, but then when the next OS came out, that iMac would be cut off. It's inevitable, every Mac will be cut off from future updates to even things as basic as Safari and Flash Player. Given that, if I had bought my iMac two days before it was replaced, it'd have cost the same, I'd just have less time before I inevitably want to replace the computer. I fail to see where that doesn't make sense.

Oh, I have no doubt it's difficult. However, it's a lot to pay for an SSD that isn't too much better than a hard drive (from what I remember).

It's a lot, but the read speeds of an SSD are much faster than that of the hard drive, which, with its faster write speeds, would be ideal for storing data. And again, getting both drives installed aftermarket is extremely hard to do aftermarket.

This is your opinion. I like choice! :D

Well, no, it's logic. Buying your computer at the earlier end of the release cycle affords you more time with it before it is unable to do what you want it to than doing so at the end, seeing as it costs the same price all throughout. I don't know about you, but my money doesn't grow on trees; I can barely afford a new Mac when it is time to upgrade, so the longer I can forestall that, the better off finances will be. Buy your computer whenever you want, but it's an unarguably smarter buy earlier rather than later.

Whatever happened to the old saying 'never be an early adopter', re there sometimes being manufacturing problems in early production runs? Tie that in with the dubious sounding but oft quoted only buy a new iMac up to three months after it's released, otherwise hold out for the next gen... and that puts optimum purchase date at, when?

Stop stressing, buy now and have fun! Or if you can hold out, wait! It's all good.

The optimal purchase date is roughly a month or so after release. All of the bugs are known about and either patched in a software/firmware update, or are removed altogether from shipping models. Apple doesn't screw over early adopters with Macs in any other way than not being careful.

I know people argue it. And they can argue it until they are blue in the face. Some people want to have the cutting edge stuff. For some, as you've seen, if a new Mac comes out tomorrow, Macs bought last week were a bad purchase. Entitled to that opinion of course, they are wrong. If you buy an iMac now, you will have a computer that not only works, but is very effective and competitive for YEARS to come (especially with the specs you named. My imac is comparable minus the SSD, and there isn't a task one, that this thing doesn't absolutely scream with.) If you can wait, I would wait. The new iMac would be out already, if not for a problem delaying it. It's literally around the corner, but no one knows when yet.

But like I was saying earlier, if you buy now, and one comes out next week, if you like what you have, and it does what you need, why bother about it? Like was already posted... If you wait a few months for the kinks to get "worked out" like some advise, you'll be closer to another refresh. Then it will be "should I have waited a few months more?". I agree with part of an earlier post against me, if you buy on day one of the new release, you'll get the maximum life out of your purchase for the same money. Is it technically the smartest buy? Yes. If you buy the highest end now as you're planning, and it's released next week will yours be obsolete? Not even close. Period. That's one of the beautiful things about running Mac hardware with OS X. A 2007 or 2008 or even older, can still do the same tasks as a 2011. Slower, sure, but hardly obsolete or useless.

No one can really answer for you. I can say that I bought this iMac knowing the new ones were months away. I'm not worried. There will be another new one when I'm ready to update again, and this one does everything I need, lightning fast. There's always something to wait for. Just go with what you feel best about, and don't look back. The 2010 model is amazing. The 2011 model will be amazing. The 2012 model even more so, and so on.

It's not about keeping up with the latest hardware. Or being able to gloat about having the newest. Sure, it's nice to feel that way, and inevitably, there will be that feeling of "it's not new anymore", but those are common psychological side-effects to owning the newest thing. The logic behind it is in the overall longevity of the usefulness of whatever computer is being bought. Were it an entry-level HP desktop, I don't think it would really matter. But with an iMac costing over $2K, why not plan for squeezing as much time out of that thing as is possible?

You are thinking about it all wrong....

If you truely want to wait and really want an iMac, but you need a computer now; get on ebay and buy an excellent condition Macbook Pro that still has an applecare warranty. You shouldn't have to spend any more than 1,000-1,200 for a mid 2009 model which should be more than enough for you. When the new iMacs come out you can basically sell it for what you paid, or even a little more if you get a good deal. No loss. I have done the same thing many times.

Not a bad idea. I'm currently considering doing this after I finish saving up for the 15" MacBook Pro that I'm saving up for, by getting either a Unibody (non-Pro) MacBook or a Santa Rosa 15" MacBook Pro and then selling it when the next refresh is out as I probably won't be ready with the funds needed to buy the computer I really want until it's sensible to buy.

I have some stocks that I can't sell before after July, so need to finance it now if I want the darn machine before July - that's why :eek:

Honestly, if you can't even afford the thing until July, wait until July unless you BADLY need this thing sooner as July would time wonderfully with the refresh having just come out and it being a sensible buy. Just sayin'.
 
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It's not about keeping up with the latest hardware. Or being able to gloat about having the newest. Sure, it's nice to feel that way, and inevitably, there will be that feeling of "it's not new anymore", but those are common psychological side-effects to owning the newest thing. The logic behind it is in the overall longevity of the usefulness of whatever computer is being bought. Were it an entry-level HP desktop, I don't think it would really matter. But with an iMac costing over $2K, why not plan for squeezing as much time out of that thing as is possible?

I understand your points about getting the most out of the purchase :) I was by no means trying to start any type of argument and hope I didn't come off that way :) Just trying to say that the 2010 model is certainly a worthy buy if it's needed now or even just wanted now badly enough. But you're right, someday down the line, there will be a cutoff for either another version of OS X, or something else, and somewhere, the last Mac in the row will be chopped off the support list. In the end and the long run, indeed it's better to wait to buy then if you can :)

And I also agree about if you're unable to afford it right now OP. The temptation is very strong to get one of these things, we all understand that :D But one should never go into debt over a computer. Personally I don't understand people buying these things on credit. My wife and I saved for our Macs, I advise you and everyone else to save and pay cash as well. With interest rates, and even just the risk of a bad month along the way financially, you can get yourself into a serious mess. And as amazing as Apple products are, no piece of tech is worth that... But that's just an opinion :)
 
I'm in your shoes as far as wants but a bit more patient. I'm waiting it out.

What's the point of having SSD addition with 2TB+ on board? I've never owned SSD and am wondering why people are adding these? Please advise. Thanks

check video from my signature it is same for every program that you use
 
Thanks for trying to guess all the stuff floating through my mind this weekend :eek:

So basically your :apple: advice is - buy now and be happy, BUT if I can wait, then try to wait until at least 2-3 months after the next iMac has been launched, because early adopters take all the heat and cr_ap from the Apple iMac production team :p

There is already reported problem with TB port with connecting to cinema display so to be honest with you i wouldnt buy new thing that cost so much as soon as it hit the shelfs. I prefere tested unit that have alot of reviews and external things that you can use for normal price. When i say normal i mean not to pay 1000usd for ****ing HUB or external storage that use TB connector. So ultimate iMac 27 should be good buy even if in couple of month refresh comes out.
CPU speed is not problem any more for most of the programs that you can use now. From my point of view new refresh will bring same update like one that is on Macbooks..Sandy bridge is faster but do you really need so fast CPU i doubt. TB is ok but do you have enough optional units out there on market that are with reasnable prices NO you don't have. So if i need to make decision like you I would buy iMac 27 ultimate without any doubts did i made wrong choice or not.

In lets say 1 year time you can still sell iMac for nice ammount and you can pay off with that ammount rest of your loan...then take new loan for new machine. From my personal experience Apple products you can sell for big ammount even if they are pretty old...Biger price tag you put more people come and bid on it hehehe
 
I understand your points about getting the most out of the purchase :) I was by no means trying to start any type of argument and hope I didn't come off that way :) Just trying to say that the 2010 model is certainly a worthy buy if it's needed now or even just wanted now badly enough. But you're right, someday down the line, there will be a cutoff for either another version of OS X, or something else, and somewhere, the last Mac in the row will be chopped off the support list. In the end and the long run, indeed it's better to wait to buy then if you can :)

And I also agree about if you're unable to afford it right now OP. The temptation is very strong to get one of these things, we all understand that :D But one should never go into debt over a computer. Personally I don't understand people buying these things on credit. My wife and I saved for our Macs, I advise you and everyone else to save and pay cash as well. With interest rates, and even just the risk of a bad month along the way financially, you can get yourself into a serious mess. And as amazing as Apple products are, no piece of tech is worth that... But that's just an opinion :)

I agree, but I look at purchasing a new Mac the same way I look at purchasing a car or a flat. They might be cheaper, but I always buy the top model to be safe for a longer period of time and to never run short of power. I bought my car and flat on credit, so why not my new expensive iMac 27 Ultimate :)

But I have a good deal of stocks coming my way in July - so will cash the loan in there, get a MacBook Air Ultimate 13 and the new iMac 27 Ultimate - and still have $50K left to enjoy the summer for ;)

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You won't regret it coz that comb is what I'm looking at ordering while I'm not in a rush... This will give you all you need in a mac and looking at the geek bench scores the Market ain't got much to cry out in that direction for that price any way... Next step would be a Mac Pro which will milk you an even 5-6k to be worth it. Not forgetting the screen you'll need.
RAM upgrades are getting cheaper. 27" at that resolution...?
It will give you a good 5 years...
The only pain is the price of the ssd...
 
Why did you cancel it? If the machine will do everything you need then why not get it? You wont be wasting your money. The current generation of iMacs are very fast, specially if you get the 27 inch core i7 and 8gb of ram, which is what I have.. Seriously, if you want it, get it, no need to wait unless there's something in the new iMacs that wont be coming out for another two months+ most likely that you need, which the only thing I could see is thunderbolt if you need super fast external storage speeds.

The new sandy bridge processors are fast, but there not zomguber fast over the current core i7 lines, that's why Intel still makes them.. Intel wont be coming out with their newer zomguber fast sandy bridge chips until 2012. Also processors generally last awhile. Core 2 Quads / Duos really didn't get out of date until this year, and they came out back in 2006 / 2007. Pentium 4's didn't get outdated until 2006, and they came out back in 2000. Nehalem / Westmere came out in 2008 / 2009 so the line still has a long way to go before it gets out dated as well. I mean, Intel recently just came out with the Core i7 x 990, which is based on the Westmere core, which isn't that much of a difference between the Nehalem core except its a six core chip instead of a quad.

So, as what iZero said, currently line of iMacs will last a very long time.
 
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There is already reported problem with TB port with connecting to cinema display so to be honest with you i wouldnt buy new thing that cost so much as soon as it hit the shelfs. I prefere tested unit that have alot of reviews and external things that you can use for normal price. When i say normal i mean not to pay 1000usd for ****ing HUB or external storage that use TB connector. So ultimate iMac 27 should be good buy even if in couple of month refresh comes out.
CPU speed is not problem any more for most of the programs that you can use now. From my point of view new refresh will bring same update like one that is on Macbooks..Sandy bridge is faster but do you really need so fast CPU i doubt. TB is ok but do you have enough optional units out there on market that are with reasnable prices NO you don't have. So if i need to make decision like you I would buy iMac 27 ultimate without any doubts did i made wrong choice or not.

In lets say 1 year time you can still sell iMac for nice ammount and you can pay off with that ammount rest of your loan...then take new loan for new machine. From my personal experience Apple products you can sell for big ammount even if they are pretty old...Biger price tag you put more people come and bid on it hehehe


Yeahh, You're right - I cancelled my cancellation for my iMac :p

No, you won't regret it.
It's Apple's best computer, imho.
You're good to go for the next 4 years.
Enjoy it and quit worrying about new stuff coming out.
Be happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFDa9efCQU

Thanks for that Video - Don't worry, be Happy :D
Just received my Apple stuff from the TNT guy - Yeahhhhh :apple:
7 days before I expected it, took only 5 days to customize the stuff in China and have it shipped to me in Scandinavia, Europe :)

You won't regret it coz that comb is what I'm looking at ordering while I'm not in a rush... This will give you all you need in a mac and looking at the geek bench scores the Market ain't got much to cry out in that direction for that price any way... Next step would be a Mac Pro which will milk you an even 5-6k to be worth it. Not forgetting the screen you'll need.
RAM upgrades are getting cheaper. 27" at that resolution...?
It will give you a good 5 years...
The only pain is the price of the ssd...

I hope and DO think you're right :)
Received the big fella along with my TimeCapsule 2 TB and the Airport express with Monster Cables !!

Why did you cancel it? If the machine will do everything you need then why not get it? You wont be wasting your money. The current generation of iMacs are very fast, specially if you get the 27 inch core i7 and 8gb of ram, which is what I have.. Seriously, if you want it, get it, no need to wait unless there's something in the new iMacs that wont be coming out for another two months+ most likely that you need, which the only thing I could see is thunderbolt if you need super fast external storage speeds.

The new sandy bridge processors are fast, but there not zomguber fast over the current core i7 lines, that's why Intel still makes them.. Intel wont be coming out with their newer zomguber fast sandy bridge chips until 2012. Also processors generally last awhile. Core 2 Quads / Duos really didn't get out of date until this year, and they came out back in 2006 / 2007. Pentium 4's didn't get outdated until 2006, and they came out back in 2000. Nehalem / Westmere came out in 2008 / 2009 so the line still has a long way to go before it gets out dated as well. I mean, Intel recently just came out with the Core i7 x 990, which is based on the Westmere core, which isn't that much of a difference between the Nehalem core except its a six core chip instead of a quad.

So, as what iZero said, currently line of iMacs will last a very long time.

I cancelled my cancellation :p
Received all the stuff yesterday - Imac 27 Ultimate, TimeCapsule 2TB and Airport Express w. Monster Cables.

Also ordered this mouse mat from JustMobile The AluPad - it looks really cool side by side with the Apple keyborad and mouse/Trackpad :cool:

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