Just scored a 450Mhz Ruby iMac cannot install Tiger What's up?

[Eidorian]

Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't have a router already.

 

[FocusAndEarnIt]

Well, I don't know as I didn't take the time to read the whole thread, just update your system to OS 9.2 (OS 9.0.4 -> 9.1 -> 9.2). If you can't get the iMac on the internet, try just burning a CD on your iMac G4 and copying the files over.

Then... put the disk in and install Tiger.

If you don't want Classic, you should be able to just format the drive in Disk Utility startin' up from the Tiger DVD and then just install Tiger...

And yeah, OS 9 isn't the friendliest when you pull an internet cable or put one in after the system's booted. I know, I helped set my school's network up... all iMac G3's running OS 9 - 500+ of them.

 

[Makosuke]

Well, I don't know as I didn't take the time to read the whole thread, just update your system to OS 9.2 (OS 9.0.4 -> 9.1 -> 9.2). If you can't get the iMac on the internet, try just burning a CD on your iMac G4 and copying the files over.

Then... put the disk in and install Tiger.

If you don't want Classic, you should be able to just format the drive in Disk Utility startin' up from the Tiger DVD and then just install Tiger...

The CD burning is good advice, and it's probably what I'd do just to save hassle getting OS9 running when I'll never use it again. But remember he needs to upgrade to at least 9.1 to install the firmware update he needs to get Tiger on there, so even if he doesn't want Classic this is necessary.

If it wasn't obvious, you want to download the fimware update and get it on that CD, too.

 

[punkmac]

The CD burning is good advice, and it's probably what I'd do just to save hassle getting OS9 running when I'll never use it again. But remember he needs to upgrade to at least 9.1 to install the firmware update he needs to get Tiger on there, so even if he doesn't want Classic this is necessary.

If it wasn't obvious, you want to download the fimware update and get it on that CD, too.

I did the update to 9.1 and the firmware but still no go! currently going to 9.2 Is the RAM an issue only 64 MB.

 

[Chundles]

I did the update to 9.1 and the firmware but still no go! currently going to 9.2 Is the RAM an issue only 64 MB.

Ooo, only 64MB?? The official system requirements for 10.4 are 256MB so that may be the problem.

The Tiger "supported hardware" page shows the slot-loading iMac to be supported but I think it'sonly if it has enough RAM. Tiger runs slow on 256,I don't think it would even work on 64MB.

 

[LimeiBook86]

Ooo, only 64MB?? The official system requirements for 10.4 are 256MB so that may be the problem.

The Tiger "supported hardware" page shows the slot-loading iMac to be supported but I think it'sonly if it has enough RAM. Tiger runs slow on 256,I don't think it would even work on 64MB.

If lack-of-RAM is the trouble your in luck. The slot-loading iMacs make it pretty easy to install more Memory in. Once you have bought the right type of SDRAM RAM you can install it easily, instructions here.

Good luck!

 

[Makosuke]

Is the RAM an issue only 64 MB.

YES.
Tiger won't install on less than 256MB, and it will run dog slow on that much--I'd want at least 384 if at all possible. OSX Simply cannot run on 64MB--the core system--not even counting a user login--uses 145MB on my computer.

Go find yourself a stick or two of cheap PC100 or PC133 RAM that's compatible with it and you're good to go. Either get it used from somebody who knows Macs, or from a reputable seller, since if you try to put a high-density stick in that computer it won't work. OWC is selling 256MB sticks for about $25, so that's a good start. One of those, and it should install. Two, and it'll actually run reasonably well.

 

[mad jew]

Of course, if you have a Panther or even earlier version of OSX laying about, I'd use that instead. They require less RAM but will still give you that OSX-goodness.

 

[punkmac]

Of course, if you have a Panther or even earlier version of OSX laying about, I'd use that instead. They require less RAM but will still give you that OSX-goodness.

Tiger from my iMac slow install! can any version of ilife be installed after this? I see a RAM upgrade in the near future!

 

[Chundles]

Tiger from my iMac slow install! can any version of ilife be installed after this? I see a RAM upgrade in the near future!

The last version of iLife to support the G3 was iLife '05. The newest one is G4 and up only.

You're definitely going to need more RAM.

 

[mad jew]

The RAM really is very limiting. I can only find the requirements for more recent versions of iLife but even '04 required 256MB of RAM.

 

[punkmac]

I'm sorry it's 10.2 from my iMac G4. I get to the installation screen It's been "Reading packages..." for about 4 hours overnight!

It must be the RAM. I have an old Bondi with 32MB sticks LOL!


Really, You guys Rock!


Thanx!


I.

 

[Chundles]

I'm sorry it's 10.2 from my iMac G4. I get to the installation screen It's been "Reading packages..." for about 4 hours overnight!

It must be the RAM. I have an old Bondi with 32MB sticks LOL!


Really, You guys Rock!


Thanx!


I.

Um, so you're trying to install a copy of 10.2 that you got with your iMac G4 onto an iMac G3?

You can't do that, the discs that come as the restore discs with purchased Macs are specific to that system and won't install on anything else. You need a retail copy of OSX to be able to install it on any Mac.

 

[punkmac]

Um, so you're trying to install a copy of 10.2 that you got with your iMac G4 onto an iMac G3?

You can't do that, the discs that come as the restore discs with purchased Macs are specific to that system and won't install on anything else. You need a retail copy of OSX to be able to install it on any Mac.

Really, I thought they were just saying that so you don't do what I'm doing.


I thought I would give it a try. So I need a real version of 10.2 or 10.3 and at least 128-256 RAM....

 

[Chundles]

Really, I thought they were just saying that so you don't do what I'm doing.


I thought I would give it a try. So I need a real version of 10.2 or 10.3 and at least 128-256 RAM....

Yeah, the version of OSX that came with your iMac G4 came with drivers specific for a G4, an LCD screen, the IO options etc, for the iMac G4 and no other machine.

You'll need a retail version of 10.2 or 10.3 and the RAM required to run either, 256 should be enough for 10.2, 10.3 will be passable, both will be great with 512MB. I presume you won't be doing too much with this machine?

 

[punkmac]

Yeah, the version of OSX that came with your iMac G4 came with drivers specific for a G4, an LCD screen, the IO options etc, for the iMac G4 and no other machine.

You'll need a retail version of 10.2 or 10.3 and the RAM required to run either, 256 should be enough for 10.2, 10.3 will be passable, both will be great with 512MB. I presume you won't be doing too much with this machine?

Yeah not much. This will be a 3rd machine, My oldest son needs to check his email for his band and upload his songs to MYSPACE, iTunes, maybe some light graphic work, basic stuff, no hardcore video processing.

 

[Eidorian]

I have a universal copy of 10.2.3 I can sell. <_<

 

[punkmac]

I have a universal copy of 10.2.3 I can sell. <_<

Thanks, I'll keep it in mind...

 

[skoker]

Yeah not much. This will be a 3rd machine, My oldest son needs to check his email for his band and upload his songs to MYSPACE, iTunes, maybe some light graphic work, basic stuff, no hardcore video processing.

Haha, I can't even get MySpace to load on my year and a half old iBook G4 (with 512 Ram!) Good Luck!

 

[punkmac]

Haha, I can't even get MySpace to load on my year and a half old iBook G4 (with 512 Ram!) Good Luck!

He will probably hijack one of the other macs anyway. It will still help to have another mac in the house.

Wait a minute...MYSPACE runs fine on my G4 iMac. Except when people pimp the hell out of there page with 20 youtube links, songs, backgrounds, wallpaper and all sort of glittery sparkly things...