read it , hehe node module. Dam annoyance last time react native. Me going native way..Here’s an interesting thread about how Spotlight can cause something like this:
kernel_task writes terabytes of data - Apple Community
discussions.apple.com
read it , hehe node module. Dam annoyance last time react native. Me going native way..Here’s an interesting thread about how Spotlight can cause something like this:
kernel_task writes terabytes of data - Apple Community
discussions.apple.com
If your computer is using 30gb of swap - can you check what's your kernel_task disk figure? Out of curiosity!This is because the computer is swapping a lot. And this is the exact reason I keep telling people to get the 16 GB model.
Out of 8 GB of ram, aproximately 6-6.5 GB is available - The rest goes to the GPU cores. With Mac Os easily using 3-4 GB after it's been running for a few hours, that basically leaves you with 2 GB for everything else, which is absolutely nothing. This then forces the computer to swap like crazy.
Even if your memory pressure is green, that is NOT an indication that everything is good memory wise. It will usually be green even when the computer is swapping like mad. My computer currently is using 30 gb of swap and memory pressure is green. But the computer is substantially slower compared to when it's barely using any swap at all. The memory pressure metric is useless for everything but showing when it spikes high temporaily
Here we are! ThanksA single Amazon tab in Safari uses around 400MB on my MBA. If you keep a lot of tabs open, then that's a lot of swapping.
@inc0gnito Can you try running https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx and post a screenshot of Health Indicators?
The TBW specification for retail SSDs are for warranty purposes and is more of worst case with write amplification.
If we look at raw NAND writes at 3,000 P/E cycles (typical for 3D TLC NAND), that's 256GB: 768TBW; 512GB: 1.5PBW; 1TB: 3PBW; 2TB: 6PBW. I'm interested in estimating the TBW or P/E cycle rating for the Apple SSDs.
Here's another thread discussing the seemingly unusually high writes.
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Smartmontool Reporting abnormally high SSD write activities?
Hi all, I have been using the lowest end Mac mini (8GB RAM, 256GB SSD) for two weeks now, and I am pretty happy with it. My workflow doesn't seem to stress the CPU that much, and memory pressure stays in the green zone 95% of the time. When I start coding and running emulators in Xcode, it...forums.macrumors.com
Sure - Atm. 172 TB written and 171 TB read. As you can see the memory pressure is green, but I can assure you that performance with this amount of swap is not identical to a the same computer running a lower workload with very limited swap. thats why it's useless advice when somebody asks you to check your memory pressure - It doesn't really show how heavy the load on the system is.If your computer is using 30gb of swap - can you check what's your kernel_task disk figure? Out of curiosity!
Thanks!
This might explain my low activity of kernel_task....read it , hehe node module. Dam annoyance last time react native. Me going native way..
Here we are! Thanks
Since buying MBA1 8Gb, I haven’t used swap yet. Whatcha doing? Video compiling?Sure - Atm. 172 TB written and 171 TB read. As you can see the memory pressure is green, but I can assure you that performance with this amount of swap is not identical to a the same computer running a lower workload with very limited swap. thats why it's useless advice when somebody asks you to check your memory pressure - It doesn't really show how heavy the load on the system is.
I think I will have to disagree when it comes to swap.Sure - Atm. 172 TB written and 171 TB read. As you can see the memory pressure is green, but I can assure you that performance with this amount of swap is not identical to a the same computer running a lower workload with very limited swap. thats why it's useless advice when somebody asks you to check your memory pressure - It doesn't really show how heavy the load on the system is.
My computer is using swap even at the most basic tasks. Anybody else?Since buying MBA1 8Gb, I haven’t used swap yet. Whatcha doing? Video compiling?
It's 512GB. I did find it quite interesting that there was no use. Maybe those SSD's have much higher life-span?Cool. Thanks!
What drive capacity do you have? I think it's interesting that the "Life Percentage Used" still hasn't budged even a little with almost 16 TB of writes.
kernelI think I will have to disagree when it comes to swap.
I have done an experiment in which I run my computer for 10 hours and only used Safari (5 apps tops) - it clocked over 20gb of kernel_task within that period.
However though - is it possible I have issue with swap itself? Despite only running one application (!) I was still using at least a 1gb of swap? Shouldn't 8gb of RAM be enough for this sort of operation?
I have a feeling that you and me have an unaccounted for memory issue.
Thanks! I now removed my project folders from Spotlight search... let's see if that will tameHere’s an interesting thread about how Spotlight can cause something like this:
kernel_task writes terabytes of data - Apple Community
discussions.apple.com
kernel_task.would it be possible to know what services you disabled, or where you did this research?I had the issue with kernel_ task eating using 23gb then after I try to research and disabled some services (not sure which service I try to enabled it back but the kernel still low usage) and I surprise that kernel_ task 33MB. also swap memory become 0byte from 9000MB.
Welcome to the club, i’m afraid to say the issue is safari like it has been for many other people on different threads. Try the following:I booted the M1 Air 8GB 24 hours ago, used Safari with 100 tabs, screenshot just before going to sleep, leaving the laptop to sleep as well
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Screenshot 8 hours later, when I woke the laptop from sleep
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I don't think that there is any good reason for me to leave the laptop in sleep mode ever again and definitely I need to figure what is going on ... 4TB in 24 hours, half of that when the laptop was in sleep mode seems a lot and probably confirms that something is not right...
Safari & Mail is 99% of my usage.
Thanks for the excellent contribution first of all.Welcome to the club, i’m afraid to say the issue is safari like it has been for many other people on different threads. Try the following:
1) Until Apple fixes safari, try to use a browser such as Edge or Firefox. On either of these, install the extension 'Auto Tab Discard' and set it up so that only the number of tabs you require at once is kept in memory - the rest stay open but get unloaded so that you do not see such excessive writing as you can see here.
If using firefox, open a new tab and go to about:config, accept the warning message, and type 'cache' in the search that comes up. Then proceed to disable (false) browser.cache.disk.enable, browser.cache.memory.enable, browser.cache.offline.enable.
If using Edge, go to ~/Library/Caches/Microsoft Edge/Default/ , click on the Cache folder and Get Info, and set the Sharing & Permissions of it to Read Only, and tick the Locked checkbox.
2) Go into terminal, and type ' pmset -g ' to get your current pmset values. These manage things such as activity during sleep which is believed to be bugged in Big Sur. Try doing the following: ' sudo pmset -a ttyskeepawake 0 ' ,then type in your password, and ' sudo pmset -a tcpkeepalive 0 '. Note that Find my Mac remote locking will not work during sleep with these disabled, however this is a viable thing to try until Apple fixes Big Sur and, in any case, these settings are easily reversible in that same way and do not have any risk of causing any harm. Everything else will function as normal.
I know it's annoying to switch browser but this may be what you have to do temporarily until Apple actually fixes safari. Some other good extensions to try on either browser to help you switch are ' Bitwarden ' - password manager, ' uBlock Origin ' ad-blocker, and ' Dark Reader ' - sets all websites to dark mode, can be set to match the system dark mode/ turn on/off at specified times.
Try these steps and report back. Good luck!