Kindle Fire Presales

[Chupa Chupa]

Does anyone else find it interesting that the Kindle Fire shipping date for all preorders remains unchanged since the announcement date? Either Amazon bought a tanker load or sales are weak. I have no idea which, but either way it makes a statement. Amazon has been relatively quite since the announcement too. None of the Apple-esque hype like "1 million units pre-ordered." Anyone else find it curious?

 

[rdowns]

According to Cult of Mac, sales are very strong. That jibes with this from their earnings:

Q4 operating income guidance: -$200 million to $250 million ($25 million midpoint) vs. $669 million as a midpoint


The fact that the company is projecting a possible operating income loss all but confirms that its losing a lot of money on the Kindle Fire. In the earnings release Amazon says, "Based on what we're seeing with Kindle Fire pre-orders, we're increasing capacity and building millions more than we'd already planned.”


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-q3-earnings-2011-10#ixzz1bpwe9t36

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Does anyone else find it interesting that the Kindle Fire shipping date for all preorders remains unchanged since the announcement date? Either Amazon bought a tanker load or sales are weak. I have no idea which, but either way it makes a statement. Amazon has been relatively quite since the announcement too. None of the Apple-esque hype like "1 million units pre-ordered." Anyone else find it curious?

Umm orders were strong. Due to pre orders Amazon building millions more than planned.
http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-building-millions-more-kindle-fires-planned-thanks-pre-orders

Unlike Apple Amazon does not created shortages to increase demand for their products. Your post is pointless bashing. Amazon clearly knows how to build volumes and keep up with demand.

 

[*LTD*]

Hopefully Fire sales will help them remedy this:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...products-increase-expenses-shares-tumble.html

 

[KnightWRX]

What an incendiary post.

Feel better about yourself that you've done some gloating ?

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Umm orders were strong. Due to pre orders Amazon building millions more than planned.
http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-building-millions-more-kindle-fires-planned-thanks-pre-orders

Unlike Apple Amazon does not created shortages to increase demand for their products. Your post is pointless bashing. Amazon clearly knows how to build volumes and keep up with demand.

Pointless bashing? If you consider that bashing you much cry every time a baby errantly hits your face. My post left open the possibility that either Amazon is selling tons of Fires or few, and that I had no idea which, only that I was curious since the ship date hasn't slipped, and well, parts shortages do happen, especially on short notice when your are dealing with high tech items.

Me thinks you are the one with the chip on shoulder assuming Apple fakes its shortages. (BTW I've have a Fire on preorder since day one being the Amazon basher I apparently am).

And thanks to the posters who provided the real answer.

 

[rhett7660]

Umm orders were strong. Due to pre orders Amazon building millions more than planned.
http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-building-millions-more-kindle-fires-planned-thanks-pre-orders

Unlike Apple Amazon does not created shortages to increase demand for their products. Your post is pointless bashing. Amazon clearly knows how to build volumes and keep up with demand.

Really.. your anti-apple is showing again..

 

[TSE]

The price makes the Fire very, very tempting. When I ordered my digital camera, I was pondering ordering one... I held off. I want to see what the iPad 3 has to offer. Only thing I am hoping for is a higher resolution screen so I can remote desktop more easily.

 

[Doc750]

I ordered one on opening day. Should be a fun toy.

 

[Bernard SG]

Bezos is nuts.
Amazon is the next Yahoo! (As in tech giant collapsing into irrelevance due to commercial ineptitude.)

 

[rdowns]

Umm orders were strong. Due to pre orders Amazon building millions more than planned.
http://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-building-millions-more-kindle-fires-planned-thanks-pre-orders

Unlike Apple Amazon does not created shortages to increase demand for their products. Your post is pointless bashing. Amazon clearly knows how to build volumes and keep up with demand.

You just can't help yourself, can you? The OP asks a legitimate question and you go off on your usual Apple rant.

 

[vitzr]

I bought the first Kindle out of curiosity.

I've bought every new one at each release since then. There's no better eReader made. Period. A voracious reader I find the latest Kindke an ideal device.

I'm sure I will feel the same about the Fire I have on order.

Regarding the iPads 1 & 2, I find them ideal for everything else one would use a tablet for. To have a Kindle for reading and an iPad for the web, email etc. It's a perfect combination of devices.

I'm absolutely positive Amazons sales of these devices are very robust. That they don't brag about it is truly refreshing.

Thankfully there's only one self absorbed, arrogant Apple.

 

[*LTD*]

I'm absolutely positive Amazons sales of these devices are very robust. That they don't brag about it is truly refreshing.

You usually need to have something to brag about, first.

 

[roadbloc]

You usually need to have something to brag about, first.

They revolutionized online shopping and eReading. Now they're attempting to make a mark on a market that has been dominated by only Apple for the past 2 years and look to be making a damn good job of it.

 

[neiltc13]

One major difference between iPad and Kindle Fire is that Kindle Fire is only available in the USA at launch (and no further launches have been announced). So demand is likely to be lower as a whole as they are only selling it in one country.

 

[mkrishnan]

One major difference between iPad and Kindle Fire is that Kindle Fire is only available in the USA at launch (and no further launches have been announced). So demand is likely to be lower as a whole as they are only selling it in one country.

This is true, but nonetheless, there doesn't seem to be a lot of evidence to contradict the analyst projections of Amazon selling 5M units in the first sales quarter (vs. 3.3M, I believe, for the first quarter of original iPad sales). 5M Kindle Fires is less revenue than 3.3M iPads, but so far there doesn't seem to be evidence (aside from the fact that pre-order dates haven't bumped yet) that the Fire is headed for a typical non-Apple tablet opening like recent Android tablet launches.

Also, if Amazon does sell 5M units that quickly, I think that's fairly impressive considering that their distribution channel is even more limited than Apple's is, in addition to the fact that they're not selling in as many countries. If the Fire does gain a foothold, I wonder what, if anything, Amazon will do to push further into other kinds of retail channels, which appears to have been an important component of Apple's ability to push iPad sales to such a staggering volume and sustain it there.

I like Apple and Amazon, so I suspect I'll benefit from this one way or another, either via competition forcing Apple to continue innovating, via Amazon selling good products, or both.

 

[ucfgrad93]

Amazon clearly knows how to build volumes and keep up with demand.

Yep, Amazon never gets it wrong. Like others have said, clearly you have an ax to grind with Apple.

Nov. 20, 2010

Bad news if you were planning on picking up a Kindle as a gift this holiday season: Amazon US is currently out of stock of both the WiFi-only and WiFi/3G versions of its ereader. Estimated shipping times are now listed as 7-9 weeks, missing the all-important holiday period.

http://www.slashgear.com/kindle-stock-shortage-scuppers-holiday-gift-plans-20115306/

 

[*LTD*]

Amazon clearly knows how to build volumes and keep up with demand.

We haven't actually seen them put to the test on this.

Or, as the poster directly above me has observed, maybe we just did. And it doesn't look too promising.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Yep, Amazon never gets it wrong. Like others have said, clearly you have an ax to grind with Apple.



http://www.slashgear.com/kindle-stock-shortage-scuppers-holiday-gift-plans-20115306/

We haven't actually seen them put to the test on this.

Or, as the poster directly above me has observed, maybe we just did. And it doesn't look too promising.

Suggest you both read the update

Update: Amazon has been in touch to let us know that they still have US and UK Kindle stock which is available in time for December 24 shipping. Shop on, merry readers!

Come on do not leave out key infomation. This is an example of my problem with many people like LTD here is leaving out key little facts.

 

[ucfgrad93]

Not sure how I missed that update.

That said, Amazon, like any other company will occasionally have trouble keeping up with demand.

http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-new-york/kindle-3-still-out-of-stock-why

 

[roadbloc]

Amazon have a hell of a lot more expertise in shipping products than probably any other company. They are the worlds #1 online store and have been for a long long time. Is it any wonder they are better at it than Apple? No, it is not.

Apples strengths lie in innovation of user interface and marketing. Not in shipping products.

 

[guch20]

Thankfully there's only one self absorbed, arrogant Apple.

Yeah, only Apple brags about their sales...

...unless you count Google, Microsoft, Samsung, etc.

 

[miles01110]

This is an example of my problem with many people like LTD here is leaving out key little facts.

Did you really expect "facts" to make a showing about a [any other company] vs. Apple argument here? That's your own fault.

 

[guch20]

They revolutionized online shopping and eReading. Now they're attempting to make a mark on a market that has been dominated by only Apple for the past 2 years and look to be making a damn good job of it.

No. Let's not get crazy here.

They're staying in the eReader market. The Kindle Fire is a Nook Color with a different coat of paint and a different interface. It is not a tablet. It is far too limited to be considered a tablet. It's limited to two-finger multi-touch, it has no accelerometer (so all the game and apps that require it could never be ported over), and is designed to let you read books and play Angry Birds.

Sure, you can surf the web, provided you don't mind the fact that Amazon will be monitoring every single website you go to, much like Google. And, like Google, they'll likely be watching what you buy and what you search for. However, unlike Google, they probably won't be selling it to advertisers (who knows, maybe they will), but they'll no doubt be using this information to throw ads and suggestions at your face the next time you go to shop on Amazon or the next time you check your email. Hell, some members of the government are already concerned about the privacy issues this brings up: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65978.html

It looks interesting, sure, but it is not a tablet and is not contending with the iPad in the tablet market. Its main opponent is not other Android tablets either; its main opponent is the Nook Color.

 

[roadbloc]

It looks interesting, sure, but it is not a tablet and is not contending with the iPad in the tablet market. Its main opponent is not other Android tablets either; its main opponent is the Nook Color.

Okay. You think that. The world thinks otherwise. Including Amazon. The Kindle Fire is a Tablet and everyone is comparing it to the iPad.

Go on. Just Google the words Kindle Fire. See how many times the word Tablet and iPad crops up on the search page.