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Kindle still has an advantage over the iPad
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Incidental eBook Reader
I've been thinking about the ipad vs. Kindle debate. Something I haven't heard is how many people (like me) are getting an ipad for a lot of reasons, and ebook will be just one of them (not near the top of the list). For me, it's a bonus add-on feature that I get with all of the other features that I really want.
But to buy a kindle JUST to read ebooks? Nope. Not gonna happen.
I think kindle will lose ebook market share incidentally when people start fooling around with iBooks.
I've been thinking about the ipad vs. Kindle debate. Something I haven't heard is how many people (like me) are getting an ipad for a lot of reasons, and ebook will be just one of them (not near the top of the list). For me, it's a bonus add-on feature that I get with all of the other features that I really want.
But to buy a kindle JUST to read ebooks? Nope. Not gonna happen.
I think kindle will lose ebook market share incidentally when people start fooling around with iBooks.
Amazon bought a touchscreen company.
There's a color E-Ink/LCD available now.
Amazon is due for a new Kindle, and I'll predict their SDK announcement is more for what's coming than the current models.
I predict the next Kindle will have a 9" screen, be in color, still last 20 hours or so, sell for $379 with 16gb of memory on board, with the same 3G data included free.
There's a color E-Ink/LCD available now.
Amazon is due for a new Kindle, and I'll predict their SDK announcement is more for what's coming than the current models.
I predict the next Kindle will have a 9" screen, be in color, still last 20 hours or so, sell for $379 with 16gb of memory on board, with the same 3G data included free.
People here either fail to understand the marketplace or are too blinded by their own desires for the iPad they don't understand how anyone would not buy one.
You want hard evidence of people preferring the Kindle and it's black and white screen + no other bells and whistles? Go to the Kindle forum on Amazon and you'll read dozens of posts/threads about how they would hate it if Amazon made a color Kindle version. And that they don't/wouldn't spend more on something that did. And that they like/desire JUST an eReader - and nothing more.
As I've said before - the Kindle isn't going anywhere - at least not for several years. Anyone who thinks the Kindle is going to be dead within 6, 12, 18 months has no business acumen. People will always like choices. The iPad will always be out of someone's price range.
It's very narrow-minded to keep thinking that the iPad is cheap/inexpensive just because of everything it can do. When push comes to shove - there are millions in the world who won't care. They don't want to or can't spend 499 or more on it. And the pricetag also puts it at a very high "gift" item vs other products like the Kindle.
You might as well try to convince people that print is dead and this time next year, there won't be any printed books. Newsflash - I've been in the publishing industry for 20 years and 20 years ago people said print was dead/dying.
You want hard evidence of people preferring the Kindle and it's black and white screen + no other bells and whistles? Go to the Kindle forum on Amazon and you'll read dozens of posts/threads about how they would hate it if Amazon made a color Kindle version. And that they don't/wouldn't spend more on something that did. And that they like/desire JUST an eReader - and nothing more.
As I've said before - the Kindle isn't going anywhere - at least not for several years. Anyone who thinks the Kindle is going to be dead within 6, 12, 18 months has no business acumen. People will always like choices. The iPad will always be out of someone's price range.
It's very narrow-minded to keep thinking that the iPad is cheap/inexpensive just because of everything it can do. When push comes to shove - there are millions in the world who won't care. They don't want to or can't spend 499 or more on it. And the pricetag also puts it at a very high "gift" item vs other products like the Kindle.
You might as well try to convince people that print is dead and this time next year, there won't be any printed books. Newsflash - I've been in the publishing industry for 20 years and 20 years ago people said print was dead/dying.
We're not saying the kindle will go away.
IMO, i think more people are going to want an iPad instead of the Kindle due to the fact that the iPad has more features.
I wouldn't say "we" - as posters on this thread and several others believe the iPad will kill the Kindle. But it's good to know you're one of the SANE ones
My only question (just playing devil's advocate here) - what "more" people are you referring to? Are you saying that if people were looking at a Kindle that those people will now choose the iPad? People that never considered either device will now choose the iPad?
Also - wanting and buying are two different things. I want a boat, a private island, etc. And if given a choice and money were no object between a boat or a kayak, I'd choose a boat. And if given a choice between a private island or a house in Philly (no offense Philly) - I'd pick the island.
Not equating the kindle to a kayak or philly. Just saying that time will really be the only indicator as to what happens in the marketplace.
As I read the "more", I read it along the lines of. . . if you were holding both in your hands right now, and had to chose one or the other (not that you had any previous bias to one or the other), then more people would chose the iPad because it has more features.
This excludes those who are looking just for an eReader and those who are looking for an iPod Touch+ experience.
We will know in a few months when the first sales figures are announced (or if they aren't announced). Till then, it really is just speculation.
I wouldn't say "we" - as posters on this thread and several others believe the iPad will kill the Kindle. But it's good to know you're one of the SANE ones
"Kill" doesn't mean "eliminate it from the face of the earth." It means "relegate it to a niche product."
According to who? Do you have any references to this definition as described by you? Because the way people post on here and in other places - one would HAVE to assume "Kill" means that the Kindle will die out. Some even "predict" that it will happen immediately which is the funniest thing to read.
I'm not being cheeky - Just curious because, as I said, the definition you give is very different than what others here would like to concede.
Just accept that there are people who think that way. Doesn't make them (or you) right or wrong. it's just an opinion.
The "complete annihilation" definition is too laughable to be what anyone meant. In daily life people talk about "killing" opponents or competiitors all the time, and it doesn't mean "render them lifeless." A bad day at the office, and "work is killing me." That doesn't mean I'm about to die.
I would like to to agree with you - and excuse me for not posting actual links. But since the iPad was announced - I have read other people's opinions on here which state very clearly they believe the Kindle is dead. As in will no longer be in existence. And I have responded, in kind, to those "accusations" stating that it's ridiculous to think that would happen and that even if it were to occur, it wouldn't be for years only to have people argue back.
So while I'd like to agree with you - and many most people have a modicum of intelligence. There are many/enough people who should take a business 101 lesson.
the only way I could/would consider getting an iPad is if it could do all the stuff an e-reader can do. It can do wonders with iWork and email but I was hoping for the wonders as an e-reader. I'm still hoping because I do like it. of course, a price drop would be nice but the e-reader part would make it an easy decision.
Enough already. The Kindle display is "not" e-ink as it was originally suppose to be. It is nothing more than a low refresh monochrome old-school LCD display from the 80's with higher resolution. Reading whether it be with a paper book, kindle or other active display will be hard on the eyes if you don't have enough ambient light. There is nothing magical about the kindle display. It just a cheap retro LCD panel. You can alleviate a lot of eye strain when reading on an active LCD display by having a lot of ambient light around and dialing down the brightness to a more natural level.
Looks like it it. At least the Kindle 2.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/159218/amazon_kindle_2_its_all_about_the_e_ink.html
Thanks. I know it's eInk. I was wondering where the ignorant post that came before mine was based on.
That's not a post of someone who's confused. It's the post of someone arrogant who has no regard for facts but rather want to look smart.
But hey - that's just MY opinion
No. e-ink in this case is now a trademark used to sell products. e-ink which was being researched by 3M was considerably different from what this "e-ink" Kindle has. The kindle display is basically LCD like you saw on watches and calculators but with pixels instead of fixed character segments. The Newton and early Apple portables had these types of displays.
So let me get this straight. You are disputing the fact that E Ink corporation, who make the screens for Kindle and Sony readers, and mention Amazon as a featured customer here, are lying when they describe their technology as e ink here and when they further refer to e ink and e paper displays here. And that in the wikipedia definition of e-ink is similarly wrong, and that howstuffworks which describes it in detail is also wrong, yet only you know "the truth"