Lack of games..

[Mackilroy]

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Is English your native language? If it is, please improve, some of your ideas don't come across so well and it's always aggravating parsing your way of writing. If it isn't, well, I hope you continue to improve.

Messy: the Mac has never been known as a gaming platform. While there have been many more games released as a result of Steam coming to the Mac, there's still a very long way to go before OS X matches Windows.

 

[Consultant]

Mac can use bootcamp. So a Mac can play Mac only games and PC games.

That's not anywhere near "lack of games." Unless you want it to be the issue.

 

[tkingart]

If gaming is important to you, get a PS3. It plays blueray movies, access to your netflix account (unlike xbox live where you need a gold membership just to access your already paid account.)

I've had an xbox360, Wii, and now a PS3, and the PS3 is the single most useful entertainment system I've ever owned. I ended up getting two of them. One for downstairs and one for my room. I have Black Ops on the PS3 and it is absolutely amazing. I have a large LCD HDTV so it works well for me.

If you insist on a Mac and want to play games, bootcamp is your best bet, and so is an iMac 27" quad core. That would be a great new toy for Christmas. For portable gaming, get an iPad- I believe there are far more games for iOS than for OS X (which is really sad.)

There are a lot more of us "gamers" on Mac's these days, and we want more than overpriced hidden object games that look like early 90's adventure titles in which their sales seem to depend on the lack of games overall for OS X. (a tired old trend I hope Steam will help to phase out.)

 

[erzhik]

Sign up for OnLive.

 

[bluebomberman]

What's the point of this thread? Mac gaming hasn't been this good in ages, if ever. It's not to say that things are great or that there can't be major improvements along the way.

I think all of us would like excellent native Mac performance for all the games we want to play, but most of us can't have that. So we make do with what options we have. It all depends on what games you want to play and how much money you're willing to shell out.

Considering that most of us neither have the cash to purchase every option available nor the time to set up and play with every option available, we shouldn't be surprised if other people decide to go with something that you dismiss.

 

[santaliqueur]

controversy? its just an observation.. using slightly incorrect wording so that it sounds better in the Mac world. I said "use Windows" not just "Windows"

Using Bootcamp doesn't play a single game, ok...? Using bootcamp lets you install Windows, using Windows lets you play the game. My observation I made, just because I find it humorous. Many Mac users find people telling them to "run Windows" for their program as bad as saying "buy a PC" ... Using an Apple software word "Bootcamp" instead of actually telling people to Run Microsoft Windows is funny to me... looking at it in a psychological way. I never tried to stir up any controversy. I'm not saying to not use it, I'm just remarking over the common word choice used all over the web, not just here. Forums are about conversation, and thats all it is.

Yeah fine, except it's no secret that the overwhelming majority of Boot Camp users are installing Windows. Where is this mysterious place you live in where people saying "Boot Camp" are trying to avoid saying "Windows"?

If you say "Use Windows", this does not automatically mean "Use Boot Camp", since there are other alternatives to using Windows on your Mac (VMs).

You trying to look at it in "a psychological way" is you trying to pretend we are afraid of saying the W word. It's not a big deal, no matter how much you study it.

I hate Windows, but I run it in VMware Fusion to play Steam games. No game has given me performance issues so far. But if I need access to all the power of the machine free from a VM, I'll just use...Boot Camp.

 

[Huntn]

But yeah, only the best games get released on the Mac. If a title is not on the mac then it must be just plain old, reused, tired engine, PC crap.

I disagree. The Witcher, Crysis, many others, most MMOs and I used to say DAO.

For the OP, if you don't want to be held back, Boot Camp is always a viable option. Consoles too.

 

[Apple OC]

Apple has never been big for games ... game developers do not want to make games for a separate system that really is a small market.

Go bootcamp, ps3 or xbox ... should solve your lack of games issue

 

[archurban]

if you can afford to buy mac (of course you had already), why don't you just buy xbox 360 or PS 3 for gaming? just use your mac for work. mac is expensive. you should afford to buy anything cheaper. otherwise, you are lame.

I don't play any game on my macbook pro. it's only for work. it's better way to do for myself. then, gaming is used by my sony vaio F which is incredibly faster, little cheaper than mac. I think somehow vaio is better than macbook pro crap. of course, design is better on macbook pro. but for performance, it can't beat vaio because it has interl core i7 1.73ghz, 6GB memory, 500GB HDD, 1GB NVIDIA GT 330 (of course, it is dedicated graphic). no other macbook pro can beat this monster. 13inch macbook pro doesn't have any dedicated graphic with the same price. I don't buy it anymore.

so you can see here. PC is better on gaming. even you use bootcamp, performance is not the same.

 

[archurban]

Is English your native language? If it is, please improve, some of your ideas don't come across so well and it's always aggravating parsing your way of writing. If it isn't, well, I hope you continue to improve.

Messy: the Mac has never been known as a gaming platform. While there have been many more games released as a result of Steam coming to the Mac, there's still a very long way to go before OS X matches Windows.

so what? you don't speak another language as I guess. don't tell me what to do, and how to do. I don't get it why some like you tell me who is not native speaker. it is just forum not damn grammar class or anything. I hate some like you who try to teach me. I don't think that your education is not better than me. I spent more than 8 years to get BA, master degree. so don't tell me what, how. plus, I speak more than two languages excepting my native language. why people are so arrogant here. you want to argue with me. fine. I can deal with you all day long for any object. I can't believe it. because you use mac, you think you are smart? what kind of non sense you have?

that's why I don't like to come here to post something because somebody like you argue with totally out of topic which is sick, and it is somehow discriminated. but you don't know. next time, be more careful before posting.

PS) I don't have this kind of problem in other forums. people just enjoy to read no matter what. only this damn mac forum somebody argue with people who are not native. you are totally isolated. nothing english. when you take a trip to other countries, you will have lots of problems. I bet. because you are not ready for. I guess you don't have money to take a travelling a lot like me. I have spent about 4-5 months to do every year. because my job I go to Asia, Europe. you just sit here, post, and argue with someone who is not native. what a waste time. right now I am not even at home. I am still away for business, busy not to enjoy holiday so much.

 

[Mackilroy]

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It's not something to take so personally. I'll continue that part of this conversation in a PM.

As to your earlier post: someone who wants to game on their Mac is lame? Guess we might as well all give up now and never ever want to play a single game on our Macs.

I do enjoy gaming under OS X, even if more games are available under Windows. With OS X I don't have to reboot, there are a number of very enjoyable games to play, and it's still plenty fast. Just because everything isn't available doesn't make it lame.

 

[Messy]

It's not something to take so personally. I'll continue that part of this conversation in a PM.

As to your earlier post: someone who wants to game on their Mac is lame? Guess we might as well all give up now and never ever want to play a single game on our Macs.

I do enjoy gaming under OS X, even if more games are available under Windows. With OS X I don't have to reboot, there are a number of very enjoyable games to play, and it's still plenty fast. Just because everything isn't available doesn't make it lame.

Agreed.

My MBP arrived in the post the other day, i've found plenty of games to keep me entertained. Maybe one day i'll install W7 or something, but for now im reasonably happy with the game selection.

 

[Wineskinlover]

Or you can port games too your Mac:
http://www.paulthetall.com/page39/page39.html

 

[harveypooka]

So whilst im here typing aware on my MacBook im contemplating the toy im buying myself this Christmas, which will more than likely be a MBP.

Figured i'd buy myself some games for Christmas too, yet to my utter disappointment COD Black Ops for example is not available.

In fact, hardly any games are available!

Whats the easiest solution? Bootcamp? Or...?

There are lots of games available. Check out the Humble Indie Bundle #2. You won't get the range that you'd get using Windows, simple as that.

 

[drewyboy]

Obviously your new to macs. If you had a mac 4 years ago, you'd be thinking... are there any games? Just count your lucky stars the Steam has come to Mac. You can thank them for at least pushing some games to mac.

 

[St. G]

Gaming in OSX means, for the most part, shoddy ports of games that came out for Windows months or years earlier. There are exceptions (Starcraft 2, PopCap stuff) but they are few and far between. If you want access to newer games, and want them to take full advantage of your hardware, you need to be (natively) in Windows.

 

[Mackilroy]

Gaming in OSX means, for the most part, shoddy ports of games that came out for Windows months or years earlier. There are exceptions (Starcraft 2, PopCap stuff) but they are few and far between. If you want access to newer games, and want them to take full advantage of your hardware, you need to be (natively) in Windows.

You missed Steam's arrival, didn't you. All of Valve's games are native ports.

 

[harveypooka]

Gaming in OSX means, for the most part, shoddy ports of games that came out for Windows months or years earlier. There are exceptions (Starcraft 2, PopCap stuff) but they are few and far between. If you want access to newer games, and want them to take full advantage of your hardware, you need to be (natively) in Windows.

Shoddy is unfair to many Mac developers.

Drivers, Open GL, hardware and Apple's focus on their own apps and visual-heavy OS all weigh in too.

 

[radomu]

If gaming is important to you, get a PS3. It plays blueray movies, access to your netflix account (unlike xbox live where you need a gold membership just to access your already paid account.)

I've had an xbox360, Wii, and now a PS3, and the PS3 is the single most useful entertainment system I've ever owned. I ended up getting two of them. One for downstairs and one for my room. I have Black Ops on the PS3 and it is absolutely amazing. I have a large LCD HDTV so it works well for me.

If you insist on a Mac and want to play games, bootcamp is your best bet, and so is an iMac 27" quad core. That would be a great new toy for Christmas. For portable gaming, get an iPad- I believe there are far more games for iOS than for OS X (which is really sad.)

There are a lot more of us "gamers" on Mac's these days, and we want more than overpriced hidden object games that look like early 90's adventure titles in which their sales seem to depend on the lack of games overall for OS X. (a tired old trend I hope Steam will help to phase out.)

I used to console game on my xbox 360 until this year's Summer when I decided to sell it to a friend, but I started to miss the mods that I used to have fun with on my computer games.