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Ross Henderson said:
Hi. I'm looking to buy a laptop. Apple notebooks are very nice, but have far to many problems (personal experience) and don't run the BSD variant I need for work.

What other manufacturers to apple users see as good quality / value? Having used Macs all my life I would like something similar, any ideas?

Oh and I live in the UK.

I have been buying laptops for our company since 1999. I think we have been through most of the major ones. I question your personal experience. Not suggesting you may not have actually experienced issues, but you may just be a victim of laptop technology. Personally I am happy when we get three years of heavy use from them. Here is what I have experienced:

Apple: Only have constituted 20-25% of our total at any given time. We have only purchased 1 Pro since the move to Intel. The others are all Powerbooks. We replaced 1 hard drive, 1 screen and scrapped 1 for physical damage. We did not have any Apple before that.

IBM Thinkpad: Reliability was pretty good actually. Ergonomics were not popular and for some reason performance was always sluggish. Deviations from the 'standard package' left one vulnerable to predatory pricing. Users did not like them.

Toshiba: These were the first machine we purchased and they seemed fine until the honeymoon was over. They had a myriad of issues after 18-24 months. Others have told me they have since had good luck. ??

Compaq: Yuk

HP: I thought I found a great machine with the HP's. Indeed, they were snappy, seemed well constructed, displays were crisp and bright, and we have no issues with them....for about 2 years. We bought them in 2003 and EVERY one of them is sitting on a shelf, partially (or fully) cannibalized for parts as we tried to keep some of them alive. A couple months back, two of the 'top of the line' 17" models were purchased in a sneaky way, and by someone outside of our department. They are beautiful machines. They definitely are not laptops. I would class them as portable workstations. They had many other users drooling. Today one just blew a screen. It is still under warrantee.

Dell: We have been purchasing Dells (for Window users) for the past 3 years. I hate to say it, but they have not been too bad. Performance is good and the reliability has been too. That allows for some keys following off, mid-poor battery performance, etc (some of the things the Macs are getting dinged for here). The early ones were butt ugly, but even that has improved. Unfortunately, Dell fails in just about every other respect of what make doing business with a Company enjoyable. They have also started loading some BS beta software without our knowledge or approval.

Sony: We have tried these on 3 separate occasions. I do not know what to say except the users did not like them. I did not really investigate why.

In summary, I am not really a huge fan of laptops as a group. They are however an important tool for some, and a convenience for many. I would not bust on Apple though. They are as good as any others I have purchased.
 
tartansparkle said:
This makes me think even though CS3 is approx 2 years away
Um, CS3 will be out next year. 2007. CS2 runs fine in Rosetta on the new Intel Macs, just not as fast as it would on a similar PPC. But the Intels are faster, so it almost evens out. Almost. Get a Macbook with educational discount (they have those there right?), add lots and lots of RAM, and you'll be fine. You should be able to get your software at edu discount too, upgrade to CS3 when it comes out.

Every manufacturer will have some lemons, so to the OP, you won't be safe no matter what you buy. Just buy something that doesn't cost much, but isn't too cheap, and get a good warranty. The Macbook/MBPs should work fine though, especially with Parallels. They have EFI instead of a BIOS, but still should work fine.
 
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