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laptop not allowed in school?
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No way would I ever give up my iPhone to a school, a government run public school. I don't trust them at all, that's why I didn't give it up. Before I were to give it up I'd notice everyone in the room, I already have down all my iPhones information like serial number and that, then wipe the device either real quick or use MobileMe immediately after. I don't trust a school with all the information I have on my iPhone.
OK , let me say this... I work for the government. As I said, they can and will keep it. Care to throw the BS flag out again zipzap?
Exactly the government, you don't have to give something up because some school principal told you. Two completely different situations.
You are right, you don't... However, you could be escorted off the property by the police and then suspended. Is that worth it?
You are right, you don't... However, you could be escorted off the property by the police and then suspended. Is that worth it?
I think that most of the time if you have something that isn't allowed then you have the chance of getting suspended anyway. I think the original poster got lucky and I say I was just lucky and the school was just tired of talking to me so they let you me go. However arguing usually does make it worse and in my situation there was things on my iPhone that the school absolutely didn't need to see and I didn't see how I had to give it up.
Why take that attitude? Sometimes it is nothing more than a simple mistake. However, if you automatically start to throw defenses up, you will make people think that you have something to hide. I would simply lock the device and hand it over then retrieve it on the way home. No biggie.
I didn't really have anything to hide but things I just didn't want the school or principal to see, nothing illegal or anything like that. Just personal things and also information that is confidential to the family.
God I am happy to not live in America or the UK.
They cant take stuff off you and maybe even keep it where I live.
Yes in school a teacher is allowed to take forbidden things away from kids, but they HAVE to give it to the parents or the kid after class.
They cant take stuff off you and maybe even keep it where I live.
Yes in school a teacher is allowed to take forbidden things away from kids, but they HAVE to give it to the parents or the kid after class.
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So hack it from a terminal, show him up... XP
Ok DONT, but his logic is probably that if you hack from a terminal i'm guessing that they can track it a lot easier, hack from a laptop and it could be anyone right? I don't know, i may have watched too many NCIS and spy shows...
But basically if you bring in "hacking software" software on a laptop it'd be just as easy to bring it on a memory stick
and i don't know about your school, but i know mine didn't really have a great rep for being secure I did bring in my laptop once and a while, but being almost the only one in the school bringing a laptop, and having it be a shinny white mac kind of puts a target on your back for anyone that wants to ******* with you.
BOTTOM LINE: Imo just don't bring your laptop unless you can actually see the policy, it might not be a school policy, he might just be an ass hole, but don't screw with him.
So strange... so this school has an unprotected wireless network? No password, no encryption? If they setup proper protection only those allowed to use the network would be able to. Then you or anyone else could bring their laptop to school to take notes.
At the high school my daughter went to. They encouraged the students to all buy ibooks (2002). If you couldn't afford one, the school loaned you one. These were used in almost all classes and used to do research and writing assignments.
At the high school my daughter went to. They encouraged the students to all buy ibooks (2002). If you couldn't afford one, the school loaned you one. These were used in almost all classes and used to do research and writing assignments.
I'm not sure how school networks work, they must be drastically different than a universities network. When I was in high school myself, laptops didn't have access to the wireless networks. Nor did I think we had one, on second thought.
I installed counter-strike in our computer lab one day and a buddy got caught playing it. They asked how I did it (installation was blocked) and then said I could be fined like $40k for causing a weakness in the network. They said they had been experiencing slow network speeds the last few weeks and that if they linked it to us playing counter-strike we could be fined. cough, horse shyt.
Schools suck. We had BESS protection, some stupid dog that blocked anything remotely fun to look at on the web.
I installed counter-strike in our computer lab one day and a buddy got caught playing it. They asked how I did it (installation was blocked) and then said I could be fined like $40k for causing a weakness in the network. They said they had been experiencing slow network speeds the last few weeks and that if they linked it to us playing counter-strike we could be fined. cough, horse shyt.
Schools suck. We had BESS protection, some stupid dog that blocked anything remotely fun to look at on the web.
Third response...cant seem but to keep reading more peoples posts and wanting to comment.
I would have said "uhhhh, I'm not giving you my (lets say you have 13.3" ultimate mba) $1600 MacBook Air. I'll shut it down and put it in my locker if its that big of a deal."
No one touches my tech gear...no one.
I would have said "uhhhh, I'm not giving you my (lets say you have 13.3" ultimate mba) $1600 MacBook Air. I'll shut it down and put it in my locker if its that big of a deal."
No one touches my tech gear...no one.
If they don't want you on their network, they should keep it secure. If I don't want burglars, I should lock my house. If I don't lock my house, I only get intruders, but no burglars.
And confiscating stuff is tricky to do here, I know parents have sued schools and teachers for damaging confiscated goods, but also for confiscating them. In multiple cases the school was given a small fine but with that fine also a reprimand.
And I wouldn't give my air away. Or I would ask him for a receipt on which he declared an undamaged laptop with serial number and the value of at least 150k. All the data of my home business is on that thing and if it gets damaged or lost it would really hurt me. Let's then see if he still wants the responsibility.
And it is odd, in afrika and India kids get laptops to get a chance to learn and at your school the confiscate then while you're working in them?! Odd, to say the least.
And confiscating stuff is tricky to do here, I know parents have sued schools and teachers for damaging confiscated goods, but also for confiscating them. In multiple cases the school was given a small fine but with that fine also a reprimand.
And I wouldn't give my air away. Or I would ask him for a receipt on which he declared an undamaged laptop with serial number and the value of at least 150k. All the data of my home business is on that thing and if it gets damaged or lost it would really hurt me. Let's then see if he still wants the responsibility.
And it is odd, in afrika and India kids get laptops to get a chance to learn and at your school the confiscate then while you're working in them?! Odd, to say the least.
If it is just school there is no way I would give anyone my laptop, phone, etc.. I would offer to shut it off and put it away.. Maybe businesses but schools? They cannot confiscate anything. What are they going to do throw you in jail? BS all the way! Would have told them to go screw and call the cops if they persisted to try and take it and prob would have walked out.
if it was me I wouldn't have taken my laptop to school unless I knew it was ok to do so or if other people did it. The school's IT equipment should be good enough for you to do your work on so there's no need to take your own gear in, unless you want to show off to the other kids. Get a dropbox account so you can work on your files at school and at home
These threads drive me crazy... the OP has not defined what state (or country) they are in and whether or not he or she is a MINOR under state law. So, much of the "they can / can't do this" is baseless...
Schools certainly appear to have the legal right to confiscate and temporarily hold items in most states as long as they have clear published rules regarding confiscation and established procedures for the care and return of pupils' property. In most locations schools do become legally responsible for the equipment in question while they are in custody of it, and are responsible for its safekeeping. Damage to confiscated equipment is usually covered under the schools insurance policy.
If the poster was aware of the school rules and is a legal adult then he or she has the right to withdraw themselves from the school if they don't feel that they can follow the rules.
If the poster is a minor, things become a lot more murky...
When in doubt, talk to your school administrator.. I am sure most of them are decently versed in case law regarding confiscation.
the OP has not defined what state (or country) they are in and whether or not he or she is a MINOR under state law. So, much of the "they can / can't do this" is baseless... Schools certainly appear to have the legal right to confiscate and temporarily hold items in most states as long as they have clear published rules regarding confiscation and established procedures for the care and return of pupils' property. In most locations schools do become legally responsible for the equipment in question while they are in custody of it, and are responsible for its safekeeping. Damage to confiscated equipment is usually covered under the schools insurance policy.
If the poster was aware of the school rules and is a legal adult then he or she has the right to withdraw themselves from the school if they don't feel that they can follow the rules.
If the poster is a minor, things become a lot more murky...
When in doubt, talk to your school administrator.. I am sure most of them are decently versed in case law regarding confiscation.
Just to clear up a few things, the schools network was fully protected, so I was working without any Internet. Despite this, I was still a threat? I'm pretty sure the IT guy was just an idiot. I'm tempted to take the air again... But that's probably a bad idea right?
And so you know, i'm 16 and in my last year of high school, studying music. Logics pretty great to have around, and the schools music software is just awful; so I'd really miss not having it with me...
Thanks for everyones interest in the subject, it's really appreciated.
And I'm in the UK, so i'm not sure about legal information.
And so you know, i'm 16 and in my last year of high school, studying music. Logics pretty great to have around, and the schools music software is just awful; so I'd really miss not having it with me...
Thanks for everyones interest in the subject, it's really appreciated.
And I'm in the UK, so i'm not sure about legal information.
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well, if i got asked like that.. i will ask if they have any proof or not, and you can show them what are you doing that time, cuz that's strange.. schools' in my country usually forbid cellphone, but they could never forbid laptops, why? everytime we use their computer, it's so damn slow.. well, i think it's better to get suspended for like 1 day than giving away your mac, and risking your $1000++
Weird. At my high school we're encouraged to bring our own laptop to school to use instead of the school ones if we want. Not that I'm bringing my MBP to school