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Largest Fabricated Complaint about MP
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YMMV, but my oMP also features ports on its Front (2 x USB, 2 x FW). They're conveniently located right next to the also-on-the-front power button.
Sure, I/O ports on a PC's back does make the initial setup of a desktop machine a bit harder. But being that we're talking about a desktop, not a laptop, just how (in)frequently does the system get moved & set up?
Yes, it ultimately depends on one's use case, of course.
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A point well made to keep this fictitious complaint at the top of the list. Instead of reaching 19" to access the back of the oMP, I now have to reach a little over 6" for the latest MP. However, since it will be on my desktop, I've already saved myself form having to get on my hands and knees.
Ah, but wait a minute, this does not address the obvious fact that the oMP had access on the front. Unfortunately, plugging anything into those drove my OCD neighbor into a conniption because he said it reminded him of a birds nest of cables (PS - he's crazy in the head). We've heard from several of those suffering from this condition on this forum. Let's make sure to remind them to take their meds.
As with everything in life, whenever I identify a problem (real of fictitious), I present a solution. How about if we rotate the MP 90 degrees (CW of CCW) then we'll only have to reach a little over 3" to gain access to the cable ports? Or wait a minute...are you ready for this...? How about if we turn it completely around? Or better yet, we say the back of the MP is now the front? Oh Crap! I just left out the OCDers. Back to the drawing board.
A point well made to keep this fictitious complaint at the top of the list. Instead of reaching 19" to access the back of the oMP, I now have to reach a little over 6" for the latest MP. However, since it will be on my desktop, I've already saved myself form having to get on my hands and knees.
Ah, but wait a minute, this does not address the obvious fact that the oMP had access on the front. Unfortunately, plugging anything into those drove my OCD neighbor into a conniption because he said it reminded him of a birds nest of cables (PS - he's crazy in the head). We've heard from several of those suffering from this condition on this forum. Let's make sure to remind them to take their meds.
As with everything in life, whenever I identify a problem (real of fictitious), I present a solution. How about if we rotate the MP 90 degrees (CW of CCW) then we'll only have to reach a little over 3" to gain access to the cable ports? Or wait a minute...are you ready for this...? How about if we turn it completely around? Or better yet, we say the back of the MP is now the front? Oh Crap! I just left out the OCDers. Back to the drawing board.
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I'm pretty sure Apple's solution is the Thunderbolt display, which according to the specs has:
Three powered USB 2.0 ports
FireWire 800 port
Gigabit Ethernet port
Thunderbolt port
#9) You can't change anything on the Mac Pro
Unlike any other Apple product iFixit has reviewed this year, the firm gives high praise to the repairability of the Mac Pro. The system uses no proprietary screws and RAM is accessible without the need for any tools. Add in the socketed, upgradable CPU originally found in the earlier teardown, the Mac Pro is the most repairable computer in Apples lineup by far.
http://9to5mac.com/2013/12/31/ifixit-teardown-praises-new-mac-pro-for-repairability-upgradability/
Unlike any other Apple product iFixit has reviewed this year, the firm gives high praise to the repairability of the Mac Pro. The system uses no proprietary screws and RAM is accessible without the need for any tools. Add in the socketed, upgradable CPU originally found in the earlier teardown, the Mac Pro is the most repairable computer in Apples lineup by far.
http://9to5mac.com/2013/12/31/ifixit-teardown-praises-new-mac-pro-for-repairability-upgradability/
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#10) When the new MP is released, no one is going to buy it and the demand and resale value for oMPs is going to go up.
#10) When the new MP is released, no one is going to buy it and the demand and resale value for oMPs is going to go up.
Well, for 4,1 and 5,1 systems, the second part of that is true to some extent.
Over 2 months, the availability of used 4,1s across Texas disappeared and the prices easily doubled. Saw a similar pattern on eBay. I've been trying to help my students find used ones and they're just gone. I have no explanation, but that's just been my observations having watched very closely.
The old Mac Pro had ports on the front for things that you didn't need to leave always connected. 2 USB and 2 Firewire 800 ports... I use them all the time without having to move the machine.
And their power cords... simply put, its more wires, and they are more critical wires. If I accidentally pull out my the wire to my speakers or USB mouse/keyboard... I just put them back in. If I accidentally pull out an external drive cable or its power cord... I could easily have corrupted data.
I have a nMP. 6-core d500. 4 monitors, all usb, thunderbolt, audio holes filled. It is a PITA to turn around. A couple front USB ports and a thunderbolt port woulda been great.
Problem is they can be rather expensive. Buyers of such powerful machines probably won't be happy with common cheapo USB enclosures.
The MBP has been labelled a "professional" machine, but still doesn't sport CF. Wouldn't be the first time Apple's inconsistent.
Do you actually need to touch that button often? As long as your OS works correctly, a reboot is a few clicks away.
True, and this so-called "pile" can't even be put on top of the machine like it was possible with the old, massive MP.
Maybe not, but before bringing it back to the Apple Store for servicing, if under warranty, they will require you reinstall all original parts inside
Correction made. The old MP is much easier to repair.
Yours doesn't launch rockets? That is too bad. I love that feature on mine. Have already used it to deal with some clients that were late with payment.
This kind of comment is so weird, and takes the cake for "fabricated" complaints about the nMP. Maybe lemonade is kidding. I hope so. No offense intended, but I have the same machine, mostly the same setup (all my ports are filled). I NEVER turn my Mac around. I have all the ports facing me. Why wouldn't I? I am regularly attaching and detaching various peripherals. This is the easiest Mac I've ever had by far for doing this. The only reason I can see for having the ports in back is if you want to offload some of your peripherals to a location behind the nMP. Okay, admittedly, the aesthetics of a clean-looking nMP with no ports showing has a certain appeal--for about five seconds. Apple should have simply called the port side the front, and this lemonade's post would never have been written.
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1 - Too expensive up to be ridiculous.
2 - Just one crap internal drive with a ridiculous capacity.
3 - Shutdown button in the back, probably the first computer to ever do such idiot thing.
4 - Forced 2 graphic card and no clue it will ever be really useful a day, just vague possibilities.
5 - No dvd drive.
6 - A box supposed to be put on your desk as if it was more handy than under the desk, ridiculous.
6 - No delivery date engagement.
1) If we adjust for the use of the word 'up', I believe monkey boy is either saying it's ridiculously expensive or it's too ridiculous to be expensive. I've owned 2 MPs and pricing for this MP is cheaper than past models (taking inflation into consideration). I tend to agree with other forum member comments - you're just here to complain.
2) Ironically, you can choose the size of the SSD. I guess if you selected one smaller than your needs, then it would be your fault - right? Also, to refer to is as a ridiculous capacity could imply an extraordinary capacity. For example, "that thing is ridiculously fast..."
3) Much like a car in a garage, you can park it nose in, or back it in. For future reference, this example has already been documented in this thread.
4) Perfect description of your current dating situation.
5) Thank you for the humor.
6) ?
6) (Yes, apparently there are two #6s) Engagement implies having a significant other. Please refer to response #4.
Now, if, as others have implied, this is all humor, I want to thank you because I really did get a good laugh. #5 alone gave me stomach cramps fro laughing so hard. In addition, as you go down the list, they get funnier and funnier.
Please do add more.
1 - Too expensive up to be ridiculous.
2 - Just one crap internal drive with a ridiculous capacity.
3 - Shutdown button in the back, probably the first computer to ever do such idiot thing.
4 - Forced 2 graphic card and no clue it will ever be really useful a day, just vague possibilities.
5 - No dvd drive.
6 - A box supposed to be put on your desk as if it was more handy than under the desk, ridiculous.
6 - No delivery date engagement.
1) If we adjust for the use of the word 'up', I believe monkey boy is either saying it's ridiculously expensive or it's too ridiculous to be expensive. I've owned 2 MPs and pricing for this MP is cheaper than past models (taking inflation into consideration). I tend to agree with other forum member comments - you're just here to complain.
2) Ironically, you can choose the size of the SSD. I guess if you selected one smaller than your needs, then it would be your fault - right? Also, to refer to is as a ridiculous capacity could imply an extraordinary capacity. For example, "that thing is ridiculously fast..."
3) Much like a car in a garage, you can park it nose in, or back it in. For future reference, this example has already been documented in this thread.
4) Perfect description of your current dating situation.
5) Thank you for the humor.
6) ?
6) (Yes, apparently there are two #6s) Engagement implies having a significant other. Please refer to response #4.
Now, if, as others have implied, this is all humor, I want to thank you because I really did get a good laugh. #5 alone gave me stomach cramps fro laughing so hard. In addition, as you go down the list, they get funnier and funnier.
Please do add more.
Regarding 3: Tim figured if it was good enough for Steve and the hugely popular original Mac Plus form factor, then it was good enough for him!
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Having all your ports and cables facing you as a solution takes the cake (whatever that means). No way I am going to have 13 cables and adapters splayed out in front of me.
The much more elegant solution for me was a Belkin thunderbolt/usb dock. A couple front facing ports would've been nice but it didn't keep me from buying it and I don't think it should for others.
I think the most valid aspect of the "everything has to be in an external box now" complaint are two factors:
1) Reduced reliability and efficiency of external enclosure cooling systems leading to potential greater risk of data loss and hardware failure
2) Increased noise due to noisy external fans, rendering moot the nMP's quietness
Point 2 can be mitigated through longass TB cables, but come on, even with the old MP most of us have a rat's nest of cables. It's just not practical or tidy. External enclosures lead to inefficient use of space compared to the old Mac Pros.
1) Reduced reliability and efficiency of external enclosure cooling systems leading to potential greater risk of data loss and hardware failure
2) Increased noise due to noisy external fans, rendering moot the nMP's quietness
Point 2 can be mitigated through longass TB cables, but come on, even with the old MP most of us have a rat's nest of cables. It's just not practical or tidy. External enclosures lead to inefficient use of space compared to the old Mac Pros.