I am not most people - I need performance, not looks. I appreciate antiques (all of my furniture is from the '20's & '30's) - but I don't do my computing on an antique - (I own an original IBM PC and an Apple SE - they are nice talking pieces).
I am now the typical Apple user - I have an iPhone, an iPad, and I do my real work on a PC. I need horsepower (at a reasonable price) which Apple doesn't have at the moment. Unlike you, I didn't have to buy a second PC to do gaming stuff on a computer, I just added another SSD for my steam library.
I can expand my Ryzen system (already have gone through 1 round of upgrades) and several cards moved from my Mac Pro to my PC. That will not be possible for Apple Silicon going forward.
I can use both AMD and Nvidia cards at the same time - I can't do that on Apple Silicon.
I have internal storage (32Tb) in my PC - I didn't have to dump $600 to replace the internal HD connections that Apple has removed from Apple Silicon systems.
I can still use my back up system (which I got for my Mac Pro), because I dropped my e-sata card into the PC - I can't do that on Apple Silicon.
I can easily upgrade any part of my system, based on my needs - I can't do that on Apple Silicon.
I have more software available than you do - by several orders of magnitude. Good luck when you have PowerPC levels of software availability.
I did not have to change my workflow - I just installed the windows versions of my applications and away I went.
I can use new software, or I can use old software - you can't. Have fun replacing all of your software (and you will be renting quite a bit of it). I am not going through another round of Rosetta.
I can use any new piece of hardware that comes out, if it fits my needs - you can't.
I no longer have do deal with the whole what do I need to do for this workaround, in Windows, it just works. (And it pains me to write that.)
For you, it appears to be an emotional issue, it isn't for me. If you haven't used windows 10, you haven't used Windows. It is as reliable as OSX; (because reliability has been going down in OSX since 10.6.8). Although neither is reliable as OS/2. I miss measuring my uptime in years. My move to OSX was about performance and reliability, not P.T. Barnum's BS marketing.
The computer is a tool, nothing more. I understand your love for the Mac Pro - I started with one of the pizza boxes as my 1st Mac, and it was a sad day when I decommissioned my last Mac Pro (see sig).
I jumped platforms, because at the end of the day, Apple can no longer provide the computing power I need to do what I do. I truly had no idea how much performance I had passed on by staying with my nearly maxed out 4,1.
My workflow isn't well supported on Apple Silicon (3d art). That may change in the future, but I would not bet money on it. Apple is going in a very different direction, and that is fine. They have a vision, and they are sticking with it. They have made the decision to shed entire areas of computing. Their call, and I am sure they won't miss people like me. Good on them.
My entire workflow for the past 15 years is built around how many cores I have and how much memory I have. In 3d art, there is never enough ram, or cores, and now - GPU processing. Staying with Apple means reworking my entire workflow - the Apple "experience" isn't worth it - because at the end of the day, we do our work in applications, not operating systems. Apple Silicon simply isn't capable of doing what I use a computer for. The only Apple computer that can be maxed out for 3d is the soon to be abandoned 7,1 Mac Pro.
The Base 7,1 MacPro is a $1,500 computer with a $4,500 case, not including the (unlocking) wheels @ $400. And my $2500 Ryzen system will out perform it (for what I do). But if I do need more horses, there is Threadripper. Which would be a CPU/Motherboard replacement - everything else would move in, no muss, no fuss.
There is a proverb that says there is a kind of cold that your grandma thinks you are cold.
You spend a lot of space explaining that you 'have such a high performance computer', which is not helpful to the user of this thread.
My answer is a useful option for him, and this option is based on the accumulation of the forum.
Of course, maybe I'm saying that 5,1 is good enough for most people, but that's probably an inaccurate judgment, and you have the right to question that, so please allow me to answer, when I compare the 5,1 to the 2019 MBP i9 16", I don't think there is a very far difference in performance.
At least 5,1 is not unacceptably slow, especially with M.2, and SSD speeds are at least in a reasonable range.
If the MBP i9 is very poor and the 5,1 is way behind the MBP i9 in terms of usage (let's forget about those scores), then I would not say that the 5,1 is still a usable performance for most people, and I believe that the MBP i9 is at least not quite "old speed" for most people, that's my basis.
My work are front-end development, compilation, back-end development, database development, docker building, and I occasionally use adobe as well as 3D graphics (C4D, SKP), AE, and so on.
It may not be great, but if all this work makes me think that there is not such a huge difference between the 5,1 and the MBP i9, it is hard for me to convince this user to give up this "old Apple" that you claim.
So, with all due respect, your answer is just like the salesman at the store, sincerely sarcastic about his intention to keep the 5,1, one only has to read through this post to see how unrealistic that is.
Your sarcasm is based on your own experience, and you are taking your own subjective experience as absolute authority.
Because your project requires 'how fast the computer is', so everyone must have that performance, yes, I believe I have not misunderstood your intent.
But in fact, how do you know that this user actually only needs to solve this 5.1 problem?
So, in this post, I don't even need to speculate, because he only has one question: his 5,1 can't run the latest adobe, and the reason is just the OS support policy, simple as that.
It's pretty basic logic, unless, of course, you're the grandma who thinks he'll be cold, all this really has nothing to do with emotions.
Oh yeah, isn't your time expensive? Why waste it on this cheap issue.
