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super mini (mac

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Oct 8, 2005
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RoxStrongo said:
Often the reason an analogue source is fuzzier on a lcd screen is because their resolution is higher than the resolution of the source and as such any slight interferace is magnified due to the rescanning. i know its in the kitchen but try whacking digital through it.


im glad some one has the same understanding, and doesnt **** on lcd just becasuse they have a bad picture
 

combatcolin

macrumors 68020
Oct 24, 2004
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Northants, UK
super mini (mac said:
there are hd ready tv's with high definition capable pannels, new year sky are bringing out a public hd source but there are hd sources availabel in the uk, usibg the euro 1080 box, main hd hannels are hd forum, hd 1 , hd 2, and soon released hd3

the reason there are only upscaling dvd players which will upscale the 576 line dvds up to 1080i picture is because there are arguments on wether fox are going to use the blueray discs (mainly sony and philips ) or the hd dvd discs (supported by panasonic and pioneer and a few other makes)

but when fox, lucas film etc have decided which they would like to use then hd dvd discs will be sold.


and please dont try to tell me what is what.

the info i place on these pages are what is going to happen, its not made up its the truth.


there are screens that have hdmi or dvi connections yes your right samsung do 2 42inch plasmas with hdmi inputs, and the picture is improved but not to a scale which is high definition.

all hd ready sets will have written "HD Ready" some where on them, either on the box, instructions or internet site (where toshiba post theres). there is no law stating that all hd sets mush have HD Ready stamped on the front, but as long as the manufaturers can show some where that these products are hd ready then thats all that matters, the old sony KLV23M1 silver or black, had HD pannels and even first stated on the set with stickers when they were first produced. untill its was said that all pannels stating to be hd ready mush have certains connections and scan at certain rates and have a minimum of 720 lines, etc. and as long as these have this then thats all that matters!!!!!


If i have offended you i am sorry.

The argument i was trying to get across is thus:

BUY A DIGITAL FLAT PANAL SCREEN WHEN YOU HAVE A DIGITAL SIGNAL TO CONNECT TO IT.

In 2 years time when we have HD TV and DVD outputted via a HDMI then im in, untill then its just a waste and your paying for a nice looking flat panel tv and not the picture it generates.

A lot of people are seeing the cheap price tags on current flat panal screens and are jumping in, and these people are going to be mad as hell when they realise they won't be able to view HD when it is common place.

Sorry again for shouting, but just buying a new piece of tech because its new
is stupid.

A good case in point is the G5.

I was adament that i was not going to buy either a top range iMac or Entry level PM until Tiger was standard.

Of course now im moving house and im a little short of cash and im putting off a new Mac until Intel.
 

letsknow

macrumors newbie
Oct 15, 2005
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Jvc Lt32ds6 - Lcd Tv (hdtv)

further update, JVC Technical department UK (don't bother) have informed me that all HDTV's are not made to carry a PC or Mac input through the HDMI socket only via a vga cable.... really helpful, he recommended I use a vga cable, which i tried to explain wasn't really that good resolution up to 1366x768, only to be told that it was the common monitor size!!! Thanks.
 

IJ Reilly

macrumors P6
Jul 16, 2002
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Palookaville
super mini (mac said:
when sharp made your 13 inch (about 2 yrs ago it was very good,) but with any of these sets they get better with the newer sets,

the major factor that reuins the look of these lcd tvs is the fact the contrast is set to high, reduce the contrast to about 70-85% and the picture will improve, same with all tvs,

even a tv engineer will tell you that if you have the contrast set to high for too long then the long term damage will be huge.


turn down the contrast and th picture will improve, but to be honest the sharps were never that good in the first place and possibly never will be

I haven't messed with the settings that much, but I will take a look. Thanks for the advice. BTW, I paid only US$229.00 for the TV (as a factory refurb) so one way or another it was a bargain. The number of sets in a suitable size for our kitchen counter was very small. I plan on mounting this one under the cabinet on a VESA bracket.

As for the relative quality of Sharp LCDs, I don't know. Like everybody else I've walked the aisles of my local electronics stores and looked at hundreds of these sets. Once you get over the massive sizes, you can't help but notice that a very large percentage of them look terrible.
 

Dave00

macrumors 6502a
Dec 2, 2003
884
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Pittsburgh
mpw said:
I was looking at a new HD panel but think now I'll save the money and pay half as much for twice the screen in a really good CRT. The picture for anything other than pure HD signal is far better than almost any LCD I've seen so far.
I'd strongly consider a DLP TV. I have one, have had it about two years, and absolutely love it. I have a Samsung, 50 inches. They're light like LCD's but much better contrast and refresh. The blacks aren't as black as on a CRT, but that's really the only disadvantage. They use alot less power, are lighter and much thinner. They also cost around $800 less than when I bought mine, but even for a cheapskate like me it was well worth it.

You want an HD-Ready system, not HD per se. The only thing HD gets you is ability to decode over-the-air signals, which you're probably not using if you have a high-end TV. For cable/satellite, you still need the set-top box to decode.

HD quality is really amazing. I notice a huge difference when watching a football game, for instance. And PBS HD programming is just eye-popping.

Big LCD's are abhorrently expensive. But small LCD's are not bad, and have quality approaching CRT.

Dave
 

super mini (mac

macrumors regular
Oct 8, 2005
106
0
UK, ENGLAND
Dave00 said:
I'd strongly consider a DLP TV. I have one, have had it about two years, and absolutely love it. I have a Samsung, 50 inches. They're light like LCD's but much better contrast and refresh. The blacks aren't as black as on a CRT, but that's really the only disadvantage. They use alot less power, are lighter and much thinner. They also cost around $800 less than when I bought mine, but even for a cheapskate like me it was well worth it.

You want an HD-Ready system, not HD per se. The only thing HD gets you is ability to decode over-the-air signals, which you're probably not using if you have a high-end TV. For cable/satellite, you still need the set-top box to decode.

HD quality is really amazing. I notice a huge difference when watching a football game, for instance. And PBS HD programming is just eye-popping.

Big LCD's are abhorrently expensive. But small LCD's are not bad, and have quality approaching CRT.

Dave



im presuming its a dlp rear projection set u have?


dlp sets are very good, im not comvinced my self that hey are better then lcd or plasma displays but they are certainatly much better then the normal rgb rear projection sets, they realy were pis poor especialy when the guns moved from the expansion and contraction from heat, but yes i agree that DLP sets are very good, especialy the samsung modles (makers of the lcd and plasma panel for sony )
;)
 
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