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klasma

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Back in the early ipad mini days there were competitions like the Nexus 7. Now, there's no more competition in the premium small tablet market. All Android small tablets are aiming at the sub $200 segment. Apple can maintain the current mini for years with no competition at all.
I agree, but that’s a different argument than saying that the 6 must take four years because the 5 took four years.
 

The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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From what I’ve seen so far mini LED will only come to the 12.9” first. The iPad mini 6 will likely be just a scaled-down iPad Air 4.

Read a report from kuo saying will come with mini led but who knows at this point
 

Homme

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Jun 17, 2014
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From what I’ve seen so far mini LED will only come to the 12.9” first. The iPad mini 6 will likely be just a scaled-down iPad Air 4.
who knows. They say mini led iPads will come in 2021 with no mention of traditional LCD Displays

hopefully the Mini 6 gets LED


Mini has mostly been modeled as a shrunken down version of an Air.

Mini 2 was shrunken down from Air 1
Mini 3 was same as Mini 2 but with Touch ID.
Mini 4 was shrunken down Air 2
Mini 5 was shrunken down Air 3

So it wouldn’t be a stretch to see a Mini 6 as a shrunken down Air 4?

As true as your post is for a few iPad Minis that wasn’t intentionally what the iPad Mini was designed to be in the first place. It was first released though ironically when no Air Models existed and was better than the iPad 2 which it was shrunken down from

they should of made the Air one or a few things better than the Mini lineup but they made the Mini 3 better than the original Air and the Air 3 and Mini 5 has the same features and hardware (just the Air has the connector for keyboards which Mini 5 lacks)

if Mini 6 has USB C I’m all in. that and edge to edge display, it will be so easy to hold

EDIT: 99.9% not happening but a flash for the camera as well. Then it can look like a big iPod Touch
 

zombierunner

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I recently got the iPhone 12 mini and I want to get an iPad mini to use during my break time at work. I have a 12.9 iPad Pro which I use at home but I don't want to carry it to work. The Air and regular iPads are also too big for carrying to work. (My work bag is already pretty big and heavy).

I really was hoping the mini would get updated this year. Should I get the iPad mini 5 now because I can't be watching youtube/netflix on the iPhone mini for however long it takes for iPad mini 6 to arrive.
 
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Falhófnir

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I recently got the iPhone 12 mini and I want to get an iPad mini to use during my break time at work. I have a 12.9 iPad Pro which I use at home but I don't want to carry it to work. The Air and regular iPads are also too big for carrying to work. (My work bag is already pretty big and heavy).

I really was hoping the mini would get updated this year. Should I get the iPad mini 5 now because I can't be watching youtube/netflix on the iPhone mini for however long it takes for iPad mini 6 to arrive.
I guess you've answered your own question, then?
 

JohnLuke

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Mar 29, 2016
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I can't wait for Apple to get the new iPad mini 6 out, I love my iPad mini 4, but it's old, even the battery doesn't hold much. The jump from A8 to A14 will be huge. I just hope the camera don’t be protruding from the rest of the body.
 

Arthur75

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Mar 9, 2015
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I can't wait for Apple to get the new iPad mini 6 out, I love my iPad mini 4, but it's old, even the battery doesn't hold much. The jump from A8 to A14 will be huge. I just hope the camera don’t be protruding from the rest of the body.

They could just remove the back cameras, ones camera is the phone, no camera on a kindle

And I don't like huge tablets, too heavy !
 
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ericwn

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They could just remove the back cameras, ones camera is the phone, no camera on a kindle

And I don't like huge tablets, too heavy !

Absolutely not. The iPad mini is not a kindle and serves way more purposes and definitely needs front and rear cameras.

I agree that any camera bump is ugly but to remove all rear cameras will have plenty negatives for most users.
 

johnmarki

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May 13, 2020
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This seems like a really "common-sense" rumor in terms of specs, but I just cant see an iPad Mini coming before September '21. I would definitely welcome the size and design. This hypothetical iPad Mini would kind of be a hybrid iPad in the design of the Pro/Air, with lower specs that would fall in line with the base iPad...IDK, but this sounds more like an iPad Air Mini?!? ?‍♂️ Either way, the size is perfect for what I use the Mini for. I really just want design continuity with the iPad Pro and iPhone. I'm team "industrial-flat-square-chamfered-edges" for life... go team! :p
 
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rui no onna

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Absolutely not. The iPad mini is not a kindle and serves way more purposes and definitely needs front and rear cameras.

I agree that any camera bump is ugly but to remove all rear cameras will have plenty negatives for most users.

Yep. I find the back camera on iPads particularly convenient for on-the-go scanning.
 

Arthur75

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Mar 9, 2015
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Yep. I find the back camera on iPads particularly convenient for on-the-go scanning.
Don't you have your phone for "on-the-go scanning." ?
Back cameras on ipads are just gross, like i take a pic with an ipad beacuse I have one an it is bigger than a phone (looking more serious)
 

rui no onna

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Don't you have your phone for "on-the-go scanning." ?
Back cameras on ipads are just gross, like i take a pic with an ipad beacuse I have one an it is bigger than a phone (looking more serious)

When "scanning" documents (letter-size or bigger), it's a lot easier to preview the scans on the iPad's bigger display with a more squarish aspect ratio.
 

rui no onna

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As true as your post is for a few iPad Minis that wasn’t intentionally what the iPad Mini was designed to be in the first place. It was first released though ironically when no Air Models existed and was better than the iPad 2 which it was shrunken down from

they should of made the Air one or a few things better than the Mini lineup but they made the Mini 3 better than the original Air and the Air 3 and Mini 5 has the same features and hardware (just the Air has the connector for keyboards which Mini 5 lacks)
The mini 2 had lower color gamut display compared to the Air 1.

The mini 3 was released at the same time as Air 2 so the mini was actually lagging behind at that point.

Apart from higher pixel density, I don't think there was ever a time when the mini was better than the current $500-600 iPad.

2012 mini 1 - iPad 4 (A5/512MB vs A6X/1GB)

2013 mini 2 - Air 1 (both A7/1GB, worse display on mini 2)

2014 mini 3 - Air 2 (basically mini 2 with Touch ID vs A8X/2GB RAM)

2015 mini 4 - Air 2 (A8/2GB vs A8X/2GB, both at $399, new 9.7" was delayed to next year)

2019 mini 5 - Air 3 (both A12/3GB, no SmartConnector on mini5)
 

Arthur75

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Mar 9, 2015
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Pixel density sucks on most apple IOS devices to say the truth compared to good android ones, except on pro ipads and MBP, maybe ..
 

Hadron

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Apr 13, 2010
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The recent OLED iPhones are competitive in pixel density. The LED iPhones have lagged behind for years, but I wonder how many people who don't obsess about specs the way we enthusiasts do have actually been bothered by it?
 
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ericwn

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Pixel density sucks on most apple IOS devices to say the truth compared to good android ones, except on pro ipads and MBP, maybe ..

That strikes me as just going by the spec sheet. All Apple devices use retina screens with plenty resolution. Especially on iPad a further increase in pixel density would not be noticeable given our typical viewing distances.
 
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Arthur75

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That strikes me as just going by the spec sheet. All Apple devices use retina screens with plenty resolution. Especially on iPad a further increase in pixel density would not be noticeable given our typical viewing distances.

Retina is just a marketing term, and for me I clearly can tell the difference on phones (especially as I use the web much more than apps for newspapers sites etc), reason why I go for samsung phones for quite a while.
 

ericwn

macrumors G5
Apr 24, 2016
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Retina is just a marketing term, and for me I clearly can tell the difference on phones (especially as I use the web much more than apps for newspapers sites etc), reason why I go for samsung phones for quite a while.

Interesting. Up to what ppi do you expect your eyes to see a difference?
 

Falhófnir

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Aug 19, 2017
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Interesting. Up to what ppi do you expect your eyes to see a difference?
The whole ‘retina’ ballyhoo from the iPhone 4 specifically means each pixel is too small to be seen by the average person from an average viewing distance, but this is often confused with being the best image the eye can make out, which isn’t the same. Past 326ppi on a phone or iPad mini you can notice more detail in images as the pixel density increases further. I’ve heard some numbers, from 800ppi up to about 10,000ppi being the point past which differences become imperceptible, but without seeing examples for myself I couldn’t really say whether either is accurate.

A linked factor is @2x and @3x retina scaling, but I won’t get into that as it isn’t currently a factor for iPads (all still use @2x and that probably won’t change for a while yet due to the toll on the GPU from having to render an image 9 times the point resolution of the display up to 120 times a second!)
 
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