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Why there's no leaks or rumors on the supposed upcoming Mac Pro...
Nothing!
No tech site seem to care about it either.
I begin to loose faith and became angry about this company who dont give a d@mn about us pro.
:mad:
 
Why there's no leaks or rumors on the supposed upcoming Mac Pro...
Nothing!
No tech site seem to care about it either.
I begin to loose faith and became angry about this company who dont give a d@mn about us pro.
:mad:

Save your anger till after June. If you haven't heard anything after June tear the roof off the place, but until then you very well might be getting upset over nothing. Deep breaths my friend. Deep breaths. You will have an answer soon enough.;)
 
Why there's no leaks or rumors on the supposed upcoming Mac Pro...
Nothing!
No tech site seem to care about it either.
I begin to loose faith and became angry about this company who dont give a d@mn about us pro.
:mad:

You are partially right. Apple doesn't really care about the pro market. Get over it. The pro hardware market does not contribute enough to the bottom line to garner too much attention.

Harsh but honest.
 
It's not as easy to create a good rumor for Mac Pro users.

iOS fans can get hopped up over the new shape of the home button - would anybody interested in a Mac Pro be content with "the new RAM slot" or "the next gen heat sink"? Not fu$$ing likely.

Rumors have to contain quite a nourishing content - which is almost as much as announcing it.

In short, Apple's current leak PR technique doesn't work with the Mac Pro.

Nothing to be concerned about.
 
When Apple was at war with Intel there were a lot more rumors because their was a processor power competition.

These days, not so much.
 
I think the main reason this seems worse this time around is because of the old rumor of Apple "rethinking" the MP line. Whether true or not, it has led to a great deal of uncertainty compounded by the 2 year long Intel cycle and Apple's clear back burner approach to the Mac Pro line in general. If Apple had done something to affirm the MP was not being cancelled, then things might not seem so bad. Now as far as after June, I remember folks said wait till after March, April, May . . . I don't think June is any different. If a new MP is in the works, it may not appear till late summer or fall. It's whenever Apple see's fit and doesn't have to make sense. If they wanted to make us feel better, they would have done some sort of controlled leak or pro "Pro" statement already. They obviously don't feel the need to do so. So we wait . . .
 
Yup. Too many sandy panties getting bunched up in here. A few things I have noticed regarding the whole Mac Pro line recently:

-No new processors offering a significant improvement until very recently, and even then it is in short supply
-Some idiot tossed an idea around a year or so ago that Apple was going to kill it, and now everyone and their sister is crying about it in ever thread on here. Literally, there are 16 on the first page...

"When" the new Mac Pro is released, or announced, I am sure there will be some major upgrades. I think Apple is waiting to get all the ducks in a row before doing something that is less than "stellar".

I predict the following:
-Thunderbolt
-USB 3.0
-New processors with new configurations (Ivy and above)
-Massive ram support (128GB or more)
-Larger more powerful graphics support
-SSD standard with support drive
-New case
-Blu-Ray support (Burning and reading)

Will it happen soon? Well, the new processors are slowing making their way around, and the rest is all feasible with what we have today. They may be planning something "more" but we will see.

I say, if there is no update or actual press release by January, it is dead. But even then, maybe they are designing something so revolutionary, that it will take time? You don't know, and won't until they speak about it.

I am going to laugh publicly at all the macrumors "chicken little's" when they announce it. It'll be a great day.
 
Gee, that sounds familiar...

Gruber has also made a few mumblings responding to articles that refer to the death of the Mac Pro, whilst he is nebulous in his replies, you can navigate to some here:
http://duckduckgo.com/?q=site:daringfireball.net+"mac+pro"

after i reviewed his replies I considered that he may be privy to the information the forum moderator on Creative Cow has claimed he has seen. Look for Shane Ross's comments on this tread:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/29895

Im coming round to Grubbers thinking, that it doesn't take a weather mad to know which way the wind blows...

Perhaps the writing was on the wall when apple abandoned last years update with Thunderbolt.
 
Gruber has also made a few mumblings responding to articles that refer to the death of the Mac Pro, whilst he is nebulous in his replies, you can navigate to some here:
http://duckduckgo.com/?q=site:daringfireball.net+"mac+pro"

after i reviewed his replies I considered that he may be privy to the information the forum moderator on Creative Cow has claimed he has seen. Look for Shane Ross's comments on this tread:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/29895

Im coming round to Grubbers thinking, that it doesn't take a weather mad to know which way the wind blows...

Perhaps the writing was on the wall when apple abandoned last years update with Thunderbolt.

Huh? A few months ago Gruber said that he believed the Mac Pro had many more years ahead of it. It was the podcast he did right after NAB.

Gruber doesn't believe the Mac Pro is dead at all.
 
Gruber has also made a few mumblings responding to articles that refer to the death of the Mac Pro, whilst he is nebulous in his replies, you can navigate to some here:
http://duckduckgo.com/?q=site:daringfireball.net+"mac+pro"

after i reviewed his replies I considered that he may be privy to the information the forum moderator on Creative Cow has claimed he has seen. Look for Shane Ross's comments on this tread:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/29895

Im coming round to Grubbers thinking, that it doesn't take a weather mad to know which way the wind blows...

Perhaps the writing was on the wall when apple abandoned last years update with Thunderbolt.

It really seems like Apple is completely drunk on iPhone profits...locking up Mac capabilities, charging huge margins on their mobile devices, possibly EOLing their one really solid computer...man, they just seem like a completely different company these days. I will put this quote from Steve Jobs here...and what does this remind you of?

"And how are monopolies lost? Think about it. Some very good product people invent some very good products, and the company achieves a monopoly. But after that, the product people aren't the ones that drive the company forward anymore. It's the marketing guys or the ones who expand the business into Latin America or whatever. Because what's the point of focusing on making the product even better when the only company you can take business from is yourself? So a different group of people start to move up. And who usually ends up running the show? The sales guy. John Akers at IBM is the consummate example. Then one day, the monopoly expires for whatever reason. But by then the best product people have left, or they're no longer listened to. And so the company goes through this tumultuous time, and it either survives or it doesn't. Look at Microsoft — who's running Microsoft? (interviewer: Steve Ballmer.) Right, the sales guy. Case closed. And that's what happened at Apple, as well."
 
Really? Not being lazy but have you a link to it?

Well, it's audio so it's a bit hard to link. :)

http://5by5.tv/talkshow

I believe it was episode 86.

Edit: At 54 minutes: "I think they're just waiting on Sandy Gram, or whatever it's called. [...] I also think it's not a very high priority, but I think that the way... for however long the Mac Pro continues to have a role at Apple, and I think it does for years to come, but this is the way it's going to be, where they are going to do massive next gen upgrades. Maybe not to the way it looks on the outside. I don't know that they're ever going to touch that again. But you know, next gen chipsets from Intel... and just let them go for two years. [...] Well, I don't know that, but that's what I would bet. I'd take bets on that."

So no, Gruber does not believe the Mac Pro is going to go away.
 
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Well, it's audio so it's a bit hard to link. :)

http://5by5.tv/talkshow

I believe it was episode 86.

Edit: At 54 minutes: "I think they're just waiting on Sandy Gram, or whatever it's called. [...] I also think it's not a very high priority, but I think that the way... for however long the Mac Pro continues to have a role at Apple, and I think it does for years to come, but this is the way it's going to be, where they are going to do massive next gen upgrades. Maybe not to the way it looks on the outside. I don't know that they're ever going to touch that again. But you know, next gen chipsets from Intel... and just let them go for two years. [...] Well, I don't know that, but that's what I would bet. I'd take bets on that."

So no, Gruber does not believe the Mac Pro is going to go away.


Thank you goMac, I got it here at
http://5by5.tv/talkshow/86
53.53 sec Gruber says Pro Mac case remains, Apple awaiting Sandy Bridge, etc... Phew, I will sleep better tonight, really! Thanks for then goMac
 
Apple is secret about all of their products.

We have a TV show about tech in the UK called The Gadget Show, they have been going around the world in the current series testing gadgets, they were in America's Silicon Valley testing all in one computers. The presenters drove to the HQ's of Sony and Asus and Apple to take photos and videos to then test the computers with.
And guess what happened at the Apple site? They never entered any of the buildings, or attempted to, they just stood next to the sign and took some photos and videos and along comes the Apple security guards to have a word and move them on!

And The Gadget Show is NOT a smalltime show! Millions watch it. But it highlights the paranoia of Apple with it's security.

Then someone looses an iPhone prototype in a bar..........
 
We have a TV show about tech in the UK called The Gadget Show, they have been going around the world in the current series testing gadgets, they were in America's Silicon Valley testing all in one computers. The presenters drove to the HQ's of Sony and Asus and Apple to take photos and videos to then test the computers with.
And guess what happened at the Apple site? They never entered any of the buildings, or attempted to, they just stood next to the sign and took some photos and videos and along comes the Apple security guards to have a word and move them on!

And The Gadget Show is NOT a smalltime show! Millions watch it. But it highlights the paranoia of Apple with it's security.

Then someone looses an iPhone prototype in a bar..........
That probably explains why Sony made a loss of $6.7 billion last year and Asus did not do so well either. ;)
 
It really seems like Apple is completely drunk on iPhone profits...locking up Mac capabilities, charging huge margins on their mobile devices, possibly EOLing their one really solid computer...man, they just seem like a completely different company these days. I will put this quote from Steve Jobs here...and what does this remind you of?

"And how are monopolies lost? Think about it. Some very good product people invent some very good products, and the company achieves a monopoly. But after that, the product people aren't the ones that drive the company forward anymore. It's the marketing guys or the ones who expand the business into Latin America or whatever. Because what's the point of focusing on making the product even better when the only company you can take business from is yourself? So a different group of people start to move up. And who usually ends up running the show? The sales guy. John Akers at IBM is the consummate example. Then one day, the monopoly expires for whatever reason. But by then the best product people have left, or they're no longer listened to. And so the company goes through this tumultuous time, and it either survives or it doesn't. Look at Microsoft — who's running Microsoft? (interviewer: Steve Ballmer.) Right, the sales guy. Case closed. And that's what happened at Apple, as well."

Yes. But sometimes a company can also refocus. And adapt.

Apple doesn't have to go the way of Sony, even though, with the iPhone/iPad craze it looks like it gets tunnel vision.

Sony was once the company that could do nothing wrong, and is today known for uninventive, overpriced products of questionable quality. All this within under ten years.

But still, new MBPs are coming out.

What we all want to see is a commitment to computers and higher end users.

A good sign was the development of FCP X, a bold move which changed the way many edit.

One little gadget, for a future technology, can change the game for Apple to the negative.

Great companies are run by personalities, not by boards or ex-second in command (like Tim Cook).

We'll see what the future will bring.
 
I went to the Apple store today to get my iPhone fixed and was shocked to discover they had a Mac Pro on display. I haven't been to the store in awhile (probably been a year), but I am certain that they didn't have it on display the last time I went.

Probably doesn't mean anything, but I thought it was interesting.
 
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