Well. Apple lost almost all lawsuits with Samsung, so I don´t think Korea is relevant
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Well. Apple lost almost all lawsuits with Samsung, so I don´t think Korea is relevant
So your argument is that because a Chinese phone company blatantly ripped off Apple advertising, 1.4 billion Chinese people have no morals?
Have to agree with you. I don't see why a company like Lenovo would be so blatant. All companies borrow designs from each other. But this one was way over the top.I have to say when I first saw this a couple of weeks ago I laughed because the copying is so blatant. There are differences but these are eclipsed by its obvious form factor. I discussed this topic elsewhere and had a couple of people attempt to suggest it looks nothing like the iPhone 6! Perhaps not to a blind man riding a galloping horse past the Tower of London! lol
I do question the reason's why Levono would do this? Did they really need product association to sell their devices? Why not make a unique product to rival it rather than hope consumers buy it because it looks like an iPhone? It strikes me as rather odd from a company so established as this. I am sure its a lovely device, but it will always be considered an iPhone copy among tech critics.
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You could almost start to feel a different tidal wave is coming. I remember watching the documentary HYPE which involved the grudge movement in Seattle. It started right before Nirvana broke out. I feel like the Chinese manufacturers is a new wave that is ready to takeover the industry soon spearheaded by Xiaomi. Movers and shakers. The paradigm is starting to shift again for a new breed.
Remember Apple was an underdog before and almost went bankrupt during the mid-1990's. Samsung was also an underdog. I finished reading Console Wars a few days ago, and SEGA was a joke in the late-1980's. Yet, it only took a few years (1991-1993) to unsurp Nintendo in the US which held 90% of the console market in 1990. You can't underestimate the Chinese since most top companies had to start from the bottom too.
PhoneArena has a really cool section called Monsters From Asia. This isn't Godzilla. It is a weekly section that talks about some really nice devices from Asia. One of them was the metal-clad and affordable IUNI U3. Gionee is not yet a top tier Chinese OEM but their breakaway company IUNI made one that looks very top-tier and can go toe to toe vs the OnePlus One. The Chinese connection with their fists of fury are ready for battle...
I remember it took years until Jackie Chan and Jet Li became more popular to Western audiences, so I believe it will take time for Chinese brands as well. If you want to see the future, you have to look to the FAR EAST. Xiaomi, Asus, Acer, Lenovo, Meizu, Oppo, Huawei, Gionee, etc these are names many people will start hearing about more as time goes on. Their quality is improving and other OEM's like Samsung, LG, HTC, and Sony can't match their high specs/low price ratio.
Steve Jobs is gone now. His perfectionism and attention to detail is all gone too. Perhaps Apple's best years is behind them now. Even Nintendo execs eventually got off their high horse and they were just as strict and controlling as Apple is. Motorola and Nokia, two market leaders and pioneers, are now owned by different companies. This smartphone industry may become an even-playing field again. In a few years it can be anybody's ball game.
You could almost start to feel a different tidal wave is coming. I remember watching the documentary HYPE which involved the grudge movement in Seattle. It started right before Nirvana broke out. I feel like the Chinese manufacturers is a new wave that is ready to takeover the industry soon spearheaded by Xiaomi. Movers and shakers. The paradigm is starting to shift again for a new breed.
Remember Apple was an underdog before and almost went bankrupt during the mid-1990's. Samsung was also an underdog. I finished reading Console Wars a few days ago, and SEGA was a joke in the late-1980's. Yet, it only took a few years (1991-1993) to unsurp Nintendo in the US which held 90% of the console market in 1990. You can't underestimate the Chinese since most top companies had to start from the bottom too.
PhoneArena has a really cool section called Monsters From Asia. This isn't Godzilla. It is a weekly section that talks about some really nice devices from Asia. One of them was the metal-clad and affordable IUNI U3. Gionee is not yet a top tier Chinese OEM but their breakaway company IUNI made one that looks very top-tier and can go toe to toe vs the OnePlus One. The Chinese connection with their fists of fury are ready for battle...
I remember it took years until Jackie Chan and Jet Li became more popular to Western audiences, so I believe it will take time for Chinese brands as well. If you want to see the future, you have to look to the FAR EAST. Xiaomi, Asus, Acer, Lenovo, Meizu, Oppo, Huawei, Gionee, etc these are names many people will start hearing about more as time goes on. Their quality is improving and other OEM's like Samsung, LG, HTC, and Sony can't match their high specs/low price ratio.
Steve Jobs is gone now. His perfectionism and attention to detail is all gone too. Perhaps Apple's best years is behind them now. Even Nintendo execs eventually got off their high horse and they were just as strict and controlling as Apple is. Motorola and Nokia, two market leaders and pioneers, are now owned by different companies. This smartphone industry may become an even-playing field again. In a few years it can be anybody's ball game.
Come off it, look at the device for goodness sake. Look at the physical form, the way its marketing literature has been put together and the way the product here is packaged. Are you seriously trying to suggest this is accidentally like the iPhone 6 because there are not enough ways to produce a smartphone!?
If there were 'only so many ways to create a smartphone' then the likes of HTC, Samsung and Apple would be creating identical products. They all take idea's off each other and incorporate them into their design, but its subtle due to patents being in place. They also have their own brand identity to build on. They don't copy to the extent we see here because their designers work hard to differentiate themselves from the opposition. Lenovo have pretty much taken the iPhone 6 and added three sensor buttons and arranged the forward facing camera in a different place. That isn't designing something, that is reverse engineering and making alterations to produce a product that is associated to another leading brand through aesthetics.
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The big point is, Apple didn't lose ALL of the lawsuits in Korea, as you stated. But, why let the pesky truth get in the way of your argument, right?
Its not an arguement. Its China. They are a communist country and they can copy things to look like an iPhone and get away with it there. I mean dude....they are only allowed to have one kid there and if it is a female, they bannish the kid in many cases. But of course it isnt every single person and i never said it was.
Please, when you can point where I have said that you can write, until then, please, stop ashaming yourself
I responded to post #62. And while it may not harm them, it is unlikely they will win a lawsuit in that companies country and they didnt in others.
You know that Korea is not China, don't you? So I don't know why you talk about Korea.
Apart that Apple won some rulings in Korea and Samsung lost almost all of their claims in Korea.
Or perhaps you're saying that the only big case where Apple won was in its HOME country, how can Samsung win against an American company in USA. But I'm sure that you're not talking about that, do you?
Apple has lost suits in other countries for the same things they sued for here in the USA. If you cant see a relevance, ...then ok and no need to go forward. Its really not that important.
The only relevance is that you tried to bash Korean courts and you were wrong, there were no bias there but you didn't knew and you assumed that as it was Samsung home country they never would rule against them.
By the way, are you aware that the country you're putting at the same level of your accusation is USA?
I tried to bash korea?
C-mon man. By chance are you Korean because thats being a little sensitive.? I did no such thing, just pointing out Apple lost a lawsuit against Samsung in Korea. They did win one for three patents but thy lost the big one.
I tried to bash korea?
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/20327636/
Then you quoted and answered the wrong thing here and you didn't tried to compare Korea with China, if so, sorry, perhaps it is my bad English
The only copying I would like Lenovo to do is create a breakaway company and emulate Xiaomi's strategy. The more of them break-even prices, the easier it is on our wallets. But of course trying to get them during flash sales would create another problem of discouragement...
PhoneArena's Monsters From Asia
Lenovo Vibe X2
UMi Zero
Meizu MX4
IUNI U3
PhoneArena's Monsters From Asia
Lenovo Vibe X2
UMi Zero
Meizu MX4
IUNI U3
They have one ready-made now the Motorola takeover is done. And Moto have made plenty of excellent devices in the past 2 years.
Imagine out they went and dropped the prices to near-cost? That'd really shake things up.
Had my eye on the U3 since a while ago. Almost, almost pulled the trigger but just couldn't justify another phone that'd be used so little. Saw one in person and I actually think it might be the better buy over the OnePlus. Similar specs, great compact build, dual SIM, and the ROM (built on colorOS) is so good.
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Like I mentioned before, the first time I knew about Lenovo was with their LePhone back in 2010. I just don't understand how they went from coming up with a cool design with an attachable QWERTY board to a company producing mediocre, me-too designs and copying a mediocre iPhone 6 design from a company like Apple with very limited design schemes.
Apple isn't just guilty with iPhones. Apple does it to most of the products. They come up with one new design every two years with very little changes and people think they own the rights with that design while other companies have to come up with several designs per year with razor-thin profits and they become the copycats...
Lenovo LePhone (2010)
Apple isn't just guilty with iPhones. Apple does it to most of the products. They come up with one new design every two years with very little changes and people think they own the rights with that design while other companies have to come up with several designs per year with razor-thin profits and they become the copycats...
Lenovo LePhone (2010)
The Lenovo has 3 capacitive buttons on the front, the iPhone has one physical button.
There are only just so many ways to design a touchscreen device. So I guess Apple simply needs to produce every variation first and then all of their competitors can be accused of ripping of their designs.
But you can't deny that phone has a strong resemblance to the iPhone 6, surely?
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Because it's taken the style of the iPhone 6. I agree, there are only so many ways to create a smartphone, but the ways to design the aesthetics of a smartphone? Practically endless. Regardless of brand, this is simply a shameless ripoff.
Can't believe folks here are actually trying to defend lenovo and claiming it is not a blatant copy. Heck, even the marketing material has been copied as can be seen from the first picture in the first post. There are definitly other ways to market a phone, are they not? The reason apple is likely not to sue is financial, if this phone starts to seriously eat into apple's market share in any of the main markets, perhaps suing could be contemplated, but if it doesn't really put much pressure on the iPhone then its a very very bad idea indeed and would serve no other purpose but to provide free publicity for Leonovo.
I don't think apple really cares, if it hadn't been lenovo it would have been one of the lesser known brands, and if not one of the established players it could have been a new company trying to make a name for itself. It won't put a dent into apple's iPhones sales in greater china or around the world.
What really sucks is that OEM's that do this really take away from what google is doing on the software front..especially with Lollipop that looks amazing..
Its their decision. They charge razor thin profits because if they tried to charge profits that look even remotely like Apple they would be out of business. No company chooses to operate at a low profit margin. They can try to copy apple's strategy if they like but ultimately consumers will agree to repeatedly pay a price for a commodity that they think is fair for that particular brand. So if Lenovo or the dozens of other OEM's need to price their phones at the rock bottom with little margins then that is because they are being forced to do so - The message is clear, people who buy apple products see a value in these products that justifies the price and the profit margins apple charges. If they didn't, they'd stop buying them. Its rather lazy to go out and start basing your designs on profiles that are very similar to the latest iPhones or iPads..but ultimately let them go ahead and copy apple when it comes to integrating hardware, software and services..Lets see Lenovo seriously challenge Google, Apple and MS when it comes to an OS or the services..
I don't think apple really cares, if it hadn't been lenovo it would have been one of the lesser known brands, and if not one of the established players it could have been a new company trying to make a name for itself. It won't put a dent into apple's iPhones sales in greater china or around the world.
What really sucks is that OEM's that do this really take away from what google is doing on the software front..especially with Lollipop that looks amazing..
Its their decision. They charge razor thin profits because if they tried to charge profits that look even remotely like Apple they would be out of business. No company chooses to operate at a low profit margin. They can try to copy apple's strategy if they like but ultimately consumers will agree to repeatedly pay a price for a commodity that they think is fair for that particular brand. So if Lenovo or the dozens of other OEM's need to price their phones at the rock bottom with little margins then that is because they are being forced to do so - The message is clear, people who buy apple products see a value in these products that justifies the price and the profit margins apple charges. If they didn't, they'd stop buying them. Its rather lazy to go out and start basing your designs on profiles that are very similar to the latest iPhones or iPads..but ultimately let them go ahead and copy apple when it comes to integrating hardware, software and services..Lets see Lenovo seriously challenge Google, Apple and MS when it comes to an OS or the services..
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