Lenovo X1 - Another MBA challenger

[KnightWRX]

Does it run OS X?

If not, it's nit a challenger!

Few people own computers to run OSes. Most people own computers to perform tasks. I know I don't care what OS is on my computer, as long as the tasks I want accomplished are possible.

For years, my OS of choice was Linux. Now it happens to be OS X because Apple suddenly made laptops that interested me and were the best choice for what I wanted. Frankly, any Unix Operating System does whatever I need to get down on a computer.

Lenovo's X1 (whatever Coldmack says, hello, the MBP is the same Intel CPU+GPU combo... but at least the X1 has a IPS display, which is more than can be said about Apple laptops) has some good things going for it. It lacks a proper GPU for my taste, but then again, so will the next MBA for all we know (and we know thanks to the 13" MBP).

 

[entatlrg]

The thing is, Lenovo was already manufacturing the ThinkPads when they were IBM branded. They only took over the name when IBM dropped the line.

So any "perceived" drop in quality is just that : Perception.

You're wrong here, it's common knowledge the quality in Thinkpads did indeed drop in a number of areas after Lenovo took over the brand...

 

[KnightWRX]

You're wrong here, it's common knowledge the quality in Thinkpads did indeed drop in a number of areas after Lenovo took over the brand...

Enlighten us then. If it's common knowledge, surely you can point to facts about this.

The point is : Lenovo didn't take over the brand, Lenovo simply finally put their names on it. They already were the ones controlling the ThinkPad brand, only they put a IBM sticker in the corner instead of a Lenovo one.

 

[bloodycape]

but at least the X1 has a IPS display, which is more than can be said about Apple laptops) has some good things going for it. It lacks a proper GPU for my taste, but then again, so will the next MBA for all we know (and we know thanks to the 13" MBP).

Actually, from all the reviews that have come out today say there is no IPS screen despite what it say on Lenovo's website. It could be an option that is coming later on, but there isn't much known about this. On an interesting note, the newest rumor is that sometime in the summer the X1 will be getting a quad core option.

 

[coldmack]

Actually, from all the reviews that have come out today say there is no IPS screen despite what it say on Lenovo's website. It could be an option that is coming later on, but there isn't much known about this. On an interesting note, the newest rumor is that sometime in the summer the X1 will be getting a quad core option.

I hope people like trash soup, because that is what you getting with Intel quad core cpu.

 

[shady28]

I love think pads, but I have to say quality did drop. The T series really was never the same after the T3x, T4x were good too but not great. After that they were really not much different from a Dell. The T61 was the last IBM branded T series.



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[jduffy]

Hmmmm, a cheap plastic body versus a metal body. Winbloz versus OSX.

That's not a challenger, that's a poor excuse for a wannabe.

 

[watchthisspace]

Hmmmm, a cheap plastic body versus a metal body. Winbloz versus OSX.

That's not a challenger, that's a poor excuse for a wannabe.

Windows*

I can't see it selling well imo.. it's well.. not what most consumers would want. Maybe for the business'

 

[Hellhammer]

I can't see it selling well imo.. it's well.. not what most consumers would want. Maybe for the business'

Computers like these have always been meant for business users. The average consumer goes to Walmart and buys a 400$ Acer instead. Companies do buy quite a lot of computers though so it's not a dead market.

 

[Ping Guo]

no offense mate but I dont think any POS Lenovo can compare to a MBA in build quality. Anything designed by a chinese company cant compare.
Chinese and good quality should never fit together in a sentence.

And im chinese myself so please dont accuse me of being racist. Its just that Chinese goods suck so much even chinese people dont buy them

Haha this is so true. Chinese people want foreign electronics, appliances, cars, and clothing. Domestic stuff is frowned upon. That said, some local brands like Haier produce decent stuff for the money, it's just not competitive internationally.

"Made in China" should actually read "Designed and engineered in California/Japan/Korea from Taiwanese and Japanese components, with some final assembly done in China."

There's a big difference between a "made in China" Apple or Vaio and a domestically designed and engineered product. Thinkpad quality has declined after being taken over by Lenovo - cheaper plastics, the metal frame under the keyboard has been removed, and they're generally less solid than before, but still quite good compared to other Windows laptops on the market.

 

[bloodycape]

Hmmmm, a cheap plastic body versus a metal body. Winbloz versus OSX.

That's not a challenger, that's a poor excuse for a wannabe.

You do know the X1 is made out of a mixture of plastic and magnesium alloy with a metal roll cage inside, and that the machine is made to meet MIL standard for shock, dust, and temperature like many Thinkpads do. Plus, they keyboard is spill resistant(had a roommate spill water by accident middle of the night, and if his notebook had this feature it would have save it). If you didn't know, now you do.

There's a big difference between a "made in China" Apple or Vaio and a domestically designed and engineered product. Thinkpad quality has declined after being taken over by Lenovo - cheaper plastics, the metal frame under the keyboard has been removed, and they're generally less solid than before, but still quite good compared to other Windows laptops on the market.

As far as I know only the Thinkpad Edge, and SL/L series lack the metal roll cage; but, then again the SL/L are for the budget conscious who want a Thinkpad, and the Edge is more marketed towards the enterprise user who wants a little more style, but doesn't want to give up the Thinkpad support, and service.

As a note my Vaio was designed and made in Japan. It seems like Sony makes at least 1 and at most 2 machine still in Japan, and the prices seem to reflected it a bit.

 

[cirus]

I hope people like trash soup, because that is what you getting with Intel quad core cpu.

"Trash soup" I don't quite get what you are saying. Only windows computers have AMD CPUs. All apple CPUs (in computers) use intel.

You do know you are bashing both sides.

And currently, Intel CPUs are the best in the consumer market.

 

[coldmack]

"Trash soup" I don't quite get what you are saying. Only windows computers have AMD CPUs. All apple CPUs (in computers) use intel.

You do know you are bashing both sides.

And currently, Intel CPUs are the best in the consumer market.

So what if you can get a PC with AMD, I am a Apple-Head and as such I support real Apple products. And please don't tell me you believe in the Intel lie we are being fed?

 

[Hellhammer]

And please don't tell me you believe in the Intel lie we are being fed?

What lie? Intel makes the fastest x86 CPUs. That is a fact you cannot deny.

 

[halledise]

Few people own computers to run OSes. Most people own computers to perform tasks. I know I don't care what OS is on my computer, as long as the tasks I want accomplished are possible.

you're dreaming and very much in the minuscule minority …
to pretty much every Mac owner OSX is the key, followed closely by the sweet design and included software.

 

[coldmack]

Hmmmm, a cheap plastic body versus a metal body. Winbloz versus OSX.

That's not a challenger, that's a poor excuse for a wannabe.

You are missing one thing, Garbagtel on both, which automatically make it a fail.

 

[coldmack]

you're dreaming and very much in the minuscule minority …
to pretty much every Mac owner OSX is the key, followed closely by the sweet design and included software.

Nope, to me its not about design or OSX(this one at least not first), but the fact that did didn't use the pure garbage Intel was and is slanging.

What lie? Intel makes the fastest x86 CPUs. That is a fact you cannot deny.

That's like saying I can eat 10 tacos in 5 minutes, it's a pointless point. Intel is like an old dog that need to be taken behind the shed and taken out softly.

 

[altecXP]

Nope, to me its not about design or OSX(this one at least not first), but the fact that did didn't use the pure garbage Intel was and is slanging.



That's like saying I can eat 10 tacos in 5 minutes, it's a pointless point. Intel is like an old dog that need to be taken behind the shed and taken out softly.

Are you just pointlessly rambling? Yes get rid of the #1 CPU maker that is currently WELL ahead of the market in CPU performance and power usage. The only place AMD beats it is in price. Really AMD only wins in price because Intel lets them. Intel owns its own fab and AMD has to contract out. Intel can drop prices any time it wants and kill AMD.

(written by a person that until he bought a macbook has only used AMD products. I love AMD but I also know reality.)

 

[KnightWRX]

you're dreaming and very much in the minuscule minority …
to pretty much every Mac owner OSX is the key, followed closely by the sweet design and included software.

If you're talking about Mac owners, then you're in the minority since Macs are the minority.

Again, people don't own computers to play around an OS. They own a computer to surf the web, read e-mail or waste time on Facebook. A computer is a tool to perform tasks.

 

[cirus]

@Coldmack Please share with us your ideal computer. Keep it real and within the limits of the present.

 

[AWallen90]

It looks pretty cool but that is crazy expensive.

 

[halledise]

If you're talking about Mac owners, then you're in the minority since Macs are the minority.

Again, people don't own computers to play around an OS. They own a computer to surf the web, read e-mail or waste time on Facebook. A computer is a tool to perform tasks.

(someone tell him he's dreaming)

my friend - this is a Mac forum hence the vast majority of people here are Mac owners and very much in the majority.

I could care less that a whole stack more people in the world use PCs with windows and other OS's on them.
I came over to the Mac OS in the days of System 7 and have seen nothing but elegant progression ever since.
I was a computer trainer specialising in Windows 3.1 then 95 and 98 etc so know a little about the frustrations associated with MS DOS;
XP and Vista did little to change my view.

I still contend that thinking people (think different, remember that ad) prefer Macs and the OS that goes along with it.
Kids prefer Macs because they are intuitive and easy to learn

I appreciate that many are addicted to Windows and know nothing else - fine.

but people buy computers based on what OS is running and what they can do with it.
agree with you that very few play around with a particular OS and that 'a computer is a tool to perform tasks'

that's not the issue.
there's no right or wrong here - just good taste vs far better taste.
throw-together bitzer vs sweet synergy

peace out

 

[2IS]

Are you just pointlessly rambling?

Either that or he's delirious. I really have no idea what any of his posts are talking about.

 

[cirus]

(someone tell him he's dreaming)

my friend - this is a Mac forum hence the vast majority of people here are Mac owners and very much in the majority.

I could care less that a whole stack more people in the world use PCs with windows and other OS's on them.
I came over to the Mac OS in the days of System 7 and have seen nothing but elegant progression ever since.
I was a computer trainer specialising in Windows 3.1 then 95 and 98 etc so know a little about the frustrations associated with MS DOS;
XP and Vista did little to change my view.

I still contend that thinking people (think different, remember that ad) prefer Macs and the OS that goes along with it.
Kids prefer Macs because they are intuitive and easy to learn

I appreciate that many are addicted to Windows and know nothing else - fine.

but people buy computers based on what OS is running and what they can do with it.
agree with you that very few play around with a particular OS and that 'a computer is a tool to perform tasks'

that's not the issue.
there's no right or wrong here - just good taste vs far better taste.
throw-together bitzer vs sweet synergy

peace out

Still, if say a better OS was released (unlikely but possible) would you switch?

 

[KnightWRX]

(someone tell him he's dreaming)

I'm not, so I doubt anyone would lie to me.

my friend - this is a Mac forum hence the vast majority of people here are Mac owners and very much in the majority.

And even here, I bet people don't own a computer to run an OS. An OS doesn't do very much besides run processes and display a UI.

People here own computers (Macs in this instance, like my MBA) to perform tasks. Video editing, Internet browsing, audio creation, photo editing, coding, VPN into work, etc... They do not own a computer to run an OS.

I run Mac OS X on my MBA because it performs all the tasks I need it to perform. If I didn't have OS X, i'd hunt for some other OS that lets me get on and be productive with my tool. It used to be Linux on Dell hardware for me.

Computers are tools. OSes are tools. Applications are tools. The tasks they enable is what is important. If you want to e-mail and OS X didn't allow that, you wouldn't run OS X just because it's OS X. You'd ditch it for something that lets you e-mail.