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gekko513

macrumors 603
Oct 16, 2003
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Bunsen Burner said:
I tried it, but I don't think it worked properly. It just reported 20°C or 25°C no matter what I did. The tests made by the developers suggested that I should expect temperatures between 45°C and 80°C depending on the load.
 

TWEO

macrumors member
Apr 22, 2006
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I have "fixed" my 1.83GHz 15" MBP by removing and properly reapplying the thermal paste. I get the following result with the speedit kernel module and the linked "Temperature monitor" utility.

When idle I get a CPU temperature of 46-51 degrees celsius. Surprisingly it can also get the temperature from my Toshiba harddisk; it reports it as being 41 degrees. Other temperature monitors that are able to report SMART harddrive temperatures have sofar been unable to give me a temperature reading from this drive, but somehow this one seems to report is just fine.

If you really need the Fahrenheit equivalents, just use google or the funky dashboard conversion widget :)
 

Bunsen Burner

macrumors regular
Feb 10, 2006
124
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gekko513 said:
I tried it, but I don't think it worked properly. It just reported 20°C or 25°C no matter what I did. The tests made by the developers suggested that I should expect temperatures between 45°C and 80°C depending on the load.

I was giving the link to the OP so he could peruse the 200+ responses already dealing with his question.

BB
 

NNO-Stephen

macrumors 6502
Jun 9, 2003
278
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Tulsa, Oklahoma
http://macbricol.free.fr/coreduotemp/

that reports 56-59 centigrade.

my MBP is ****ing roasting my lap. Apple says "well don't use it on your lap" like that's a good ****ing solution.

I wish they'd just be honest about them getting too ****ing hot.

I say class-action lawsuit!

I will be paying a visit to the Apple room at E3 this coming week and I'll see wtf they do in person. here's my macbooki pro, I dare you to hold it for five minutes...
 

zorg

macrumors regular
Original poster
May 3, 2006
184
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I went to examine one at the store today. From what I could tell, they were hot, but not that hot that you could get burned... Maybe you guys are gentle?
 

mmmcheese

macrumors 6502a
Feb 17, 2006
948
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NNO-Stephen said:
http://macbricol.free.fr/coreduotemp/

that reports 56-59 centigrade.

my MBP is ****ing roasting my lap. Apple says "well don't use it on your lap" like that's a good ****ing solution.

I wish they'd just be honest about them getting too ****ing hot.

I say class-action lawsuit!

I will be paying a visit to the Apple room at E3 this coming week and I'll see wtf they do in person. here's my macbooki pro, I dare you to hold it for five minutes...

Oddly enough, that's the same temp as mine, and the case feels about the same temp as a luke-warm cup of coffee (when you touch the outside of the cup).

I wouldn't really call that hot...
 

calebjohnston

macrumors 68000
Jan 24, 2006
1,801
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The ones I felt at the store went all that bad, but I'd imagine when under a pretty good processor load, they'd heat up. However, you'd be sitting at a desk then anyway. (right?) :)
 

NNO-Stephen

macrumors 6502
Jun 9, 2003
278
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Tulsa, Oklahoma
mmmcheese said:
Oddly enough, that's the same temp as mine, and the case feels about the same temp as a luke-warm cup of coffee (when you touch the outside of the cup).

I wouldn't really call that hot...
there are other things that contribute to heat. the northbridge and the GPU are two of them.

my case may be a different temperature than yours also, that's just the CPU readings I get, not the case.
 

Transeau

macrumors 6502a
Jan 18, 2005
869
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Alta Loma, CA
time will fix this... (i hope)
Apple doesn't appear to be using the EIST or C1E. Both will dramaticly lower the CPU temp, as well as the north bridge. Not to mention increase the battery life.
 

mmmcheese

macrumors 6502a
Feb 17, 2006
948
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Transeau said:
time will fix this... (i hope)
Apple doesn't appear to be using the EIST or C1E. Both will dramaticly lower the CPU temp, as well as the north bridge. Not to mention increase the battery life.

Yeah, I'm hoping the Apple/Intel team are working their posteriors off optimizing for the MBP/MB and are just holding off releasing it until they have the whole thing working (and not just a partial solution). It'd be a nice bonus. Things are ok now, but they could be great. :)
 

zorg

macrumors regular
Original poster
May 3, 2006
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Sounds like some people say it is hot and other say it isn't. It seems all personal preferance...
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
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Transeau said:
time will fix this... (i hope)
Apple doesn't appear to be using the EIST or C1E. Both will dramaticly lower the CPU temp, as well as the north bridge. Not to mention increase the battery life.
Pardon my ignorance ( :eek: ), but are those things that could be enabled in firmware or the OS, or are those physical changes?
 

generik

macrumors 601
Aug 5, 2005
4,116
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Minitrue
mmmcheese said:
Oddly enough, that's the same temp as mine, and the case feels about the same temp as a luke-warm cup of coffee (when you touch the outside of the cup).

I wouldn't really call that hot...

You happen to live in the southern hemisphere?
 

Bunsen Burner

macrumors regular
Feb 10, 2006
124
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zorg said:
Sounds like some people say it is hot and other say it isn't. It seems all personal preferance...

It's obvious you have not sought out any information regarding this nor have you looked into the link I provided. There you will find dozens of reports of CPU temps under varying loads and over time.

It is laughable that someone would prefer a CPU temp of 85ºC-90ºC on a hard working MBP. These temps indicate a serious cooling issue as the case becomes unbearably hot and sends the hard drive temps beyond their rated capacity. These particular machines are hot by anyone's metric and are the reason the whole heat issue appeared in the first place.

The MBP I am typing on now, which has been in my lap for the last 45 minutes, once idled at 64ºC and reached +85ºC under heavy load. Neither software or firmware updates solved the outrageous heat, nor did resetting the PMU. Surgery was the only recourse and worked wonderfully: the CPU temp at this moment is 43ºC and maxes out at 67ºC under two shells of yes > /dev/null.

BB
 

generik

macrumors 601
Aug 5, 2005
4,116
1
Minitrue
Bunsen Burner said:
It is laughable that someone would prefer a CPU temp of 85ºC-90ºC on a hard working MBP.

Shush!

You don't have to burst their bubbles, some people are just unhappy that they spent over 2 grand on a laptop just to deal with these issues!
 

bursty

macrumors 65816
Jan 31, 2004
1,002
5
NNO-Stephen said:
http://macbricol.free.fr/coreduotemp/

that reports 56-59 centigrade.

my MBP is ****ing roasting my lap. Apple says "well don't use it on your lap" like that's a good ****ing solution.

I wish they'd just be honest about them getting too ****ing hot.

I say class-action lawsuit!

I will be paying a visit to the Apple room at E3 this coming week and I'll see wtf they do in person. here's my macbooki pro, I dare you to hold it for five minutes...
hmm, my G4 PowerBook gets hotter than that. You're right, the answer to everything is SUE SUE SUE! :rolleyes:
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
12,292
1,403
bursty said:
hmm, my G4 PowerBook gets hotter than that.
Same here! On average, my last generation 15" G4 PB processor ran hotter, but for whatever reason, that didn't cause the PB case to feel as uncomfortable as either of the MBPs that I've used. I can handle the fact that Apple laptops run hotter than others, but I'm not thrilled that to get most MBPs to not be "center of the sun" hot, you have to take them apart, remove the thermal goo that Apple misapplied, and then put it correctly back on yourself.

bursty said:
You're right, the answer to everything is SUE SUE SUE! :rolleyes:
I'm not a SUE SUE SUE person. I'll just keep having CompUSA replace my MBP on the 20th day of their 21 day policy until either I get one out-of-the-box thats as good as some people are talking about, or until I start to see threads where people who have sent theirs into Apple support are getting them back properly fixed. Not all people are as patient. I can understand why some would be saying SUE SUE SUE. That's pretty much their only recourse. How else do they get Apple to give them some sort of acknowledgement of the MBP issues that are all over MacRumors, Engadget, Digg, TUAW, and the Apple Support forums?
 

luminosity

macrumors 65816
Jan 10, 2006
1,364
0
Arizona
The hinges for the display and the area between the keyboard and display were hot enough to burn yesterday when I checked out several MBPs at an Apple store.
 

vgoklani

macrumors regular
Jul 2, 2004
186
0
the temperature depends on what software you are using....load up photoshop and open a huge a RAW file...
 
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