Ok...it's 2013...the world didn't end...where is the new Mac Pro?
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Huzzah! One Mac to rule them all!
(and please don't make it an epoxied shut box)
Wishful thinking... ain't going to happen, best bet.. WWDC 2013 in June thats if Apple doesn't take too much time introducing the iPad 4 or 5 or iPhone 6.
Maybe Tuesday, January 8th?
Pleeeeaaaassseeee???
Here it is folks - the 2013 Mac Pro Lineup.
I included the left most one as a way to continue support for optical drives and users who require them, however the 'new' designs are the two on the right.
The taller unit is the same height as the old mac pro, only the handles are lower profile. With the removal of optical drives, it enabled the chassis to be limited mostly by the PCIe slot width. It has 4 PCIe 3.0 slots and 5 drive bays.
The shorter unit has only 2 PCIe 3.0 slots and 3 drive bays.
My concept for the internals would be a 'modular' 3-module system with layers, vertically adjacent to each other. You pull off the side and then can access each of the following modules:
- CPU / RAM
- Hard Drive Bays
- PCI Expansion
Each one slides out to allow you each upgrade/repairs. Then slides back in and connects to a back-plane.
I'll get some mockups of the internals and rear done ASAP.
Hope you like it.
Scott
I included the left most one as a way to continue support for optical drives and users who require them, however the 'new' designs are the two on the right.
The taller unit is the same height as the old mac pro, only the handles are lower profile. With the removal of optical drives, it enabled the chassis to be limited mostly by the PCIe slot width. It has 4 PCIe 3.0 slots and 5 drive bays.
The shorter unit has only 2 PCIe 3.0 slots and 3 drive bays.
My concept for the internals would be a 'modular' 3-module system with layers, vertically adjacent to each other. You pull off the side and then can access each of the following modules:
- CPU / RAM
- Hard Drive Bays
- PCI Expansion
Each one slides out to allow you each upgrade/repairs. Then slides back in and connects to a back-plane.
I'll get some mockups of the internals and rear done ASAP.
Hope you like it.
Scott
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Win7 has been working just fine since I sold my 2008 mac pro. Just as solid as OSX. At least I am not holding my breath praying for a faster mac pro, instead I kept right on going under another OS but pretty much the same software. Matter of fact, I'm having great luck. Now that my new build is complete, cough 3770K cough, going faster now.
Win7 has been working just fine since I sold my 2008 mac pro. Just as solid as OSX. At least I am not holding my breath praying for a faster mac pro, instead I kept right on going under another OS but pretty much the same software. Matter of fact, I'm having great luck. Now that my new build is complete, cough 3770K cough, going faster now.
Doesn't change the fact that Windows is an ugly OS. Same for Windows 8.
Not that it makes it impossible to be productive on it, but it's not a good and intuitive UI.
quick question as a mac noob - would the following most likely be possible:
Buy a new mac pro when they are released and be able to connect 3-4 new cinema displays (when these are released, hopefully at the same time) to it or would I need to mod/upgrade the mac pro or is this just not possible?
Buy a new mac pro when they are released and be able to connect 3-4 new cinema displays (when these are released, hopefully at the same time) to it or would I need to mod/upgrade the mac pro or is this just not possible?
I've been using Win8 for a few months now and found it isn't intuitive at all. It's an OS you use if you have not, not because you want to.
since TB "is" pci express (bear with me, i'm not a techie, and this is what i'm lead to understand) would it be possible or likely for apple to include a PCIe card that is simply 4 TB ports on the back, with an included GPU of some sort on the card?
if this is completely insane, please tell me so
or - is it a limitation due to the "x" factor on slots - 4x, 16 etc
if this is completely insane, please tell me so
or - is it a limitation due to the "x" factor on slots - 4x, 16 etc
I think MS was going somewhere with Windows 7 and it was really solid (GUI still looked like fisher price, but it was definitely a very stable OS). They are just trying to do too many things with a single OS (windows 8).
Their design team just doesn't get it. Tablet features CAN'T directly function on a desktop OS where the primary input device is a mouse and a keyboard.
The new start menu is seriously redundant. On a desktop, you need to QUICKLY access things and the removal of the start menu on the desktop is pathetic.
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since TB "is" pci express (bear with me, i'm not a techie, and this is what i'm lead to understand) would it be possible or likely for apple to include a PCIe card that is simply 4 TB ports on the back, with an included GPU of some sort on the card?
if this is completely insane, please tell me so
or - is it a limitation due to the "x" factor on slots - 4x, 16 etc
Why? They can just add extra tb ports, like in the retinal MBP's (They have 2).
TB is a 10Gbit port, which is equivalent to PCIe x4 I think. There are enclosures out there that can take a graphics card and connect via TB, but they're seriously flawed as they can't transfer the full bandwidth of PCIe x16. Also they need extra power.
Thunderbolt is not PCI-express. It is a new and slightly different protocol that traffics PCI-e data. The thunderbolt controller chip will accept , encode and transport both PCI-e and DisplayPort signals to another Thunderbolt controller in an external box/perhiperhal. Once there if that traffic is marked as destine for that box it is decoded back into whichever it started out as (PCI-e or DisplayPort data traffic). During the trip out/back it is different. At the endpoints it automagically reverts to native format.
In short, it is somewhat like how your voice digitalized on modern phone traffic in the middle but is turned back into analog to drive speaker/microphone for you to listen to.
Pragmatically no. To meet Thunderbolt qualification standard what have typically been Personal Computer must produce both PCI-e and DisplayPort data. Thunderbolt is piggybacking on a video connection standard. It is extremely likely that constraint is there so that the expectation that a video socket product video output is maintained. Otherwise you'd have what looked like a standard video output socket that sometimes didn't output video.
It is a reasonable price to pay the DisplayPort standards folks to somewhat usurping their standard socket configuration. The USB folks turned them (Thunderbolt/Intel/etc) down. If Thunderbolt tried to create a brand new socket from scratch it would be all the more apparent that it was yet another new protocol that wasn't being standards driven.
Instead the spin that it is all standards based stuff. "It's just PCI-e" . "It's just mini DisplayPort sockets". When in fact is a quite new and just backward compatible in most contexts.
It is number of PCI-e lanes. Users get somewhat less that x4 PCI-e lanes out of a Thunderbolt connection. That means a cap on remote GPU card performance. It can be better than than limited integrated graphics solution but definitely worse, cost effectively and performance wise, than a normally mounted x8 or normal x16 connection.
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It has already been possible to hook up 3-4 displays for last several generations of the Mac Pro. This would be nothing new.
If trying to talk specifically about Thunderbolt specific displays then no. Pragmatically thunderbolt can only deal with two displays. The "mac pro" isn't going to make that better. It is a rather expensive and pointless technology to leverage if primarily interested in hooking up more than two displays in a normal context (reasonable distances from computer box).
Has this link to the Mac Observer about the 2013 Pro machine been posted?
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/designing-the-new-mac-pro-technologies-wishes
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/designing-the-new-mac-pro-technologies-wishes
I dunno, that fella gets a number of things wrong off the bat.
First, as much as I love all things Trek, Apple takes design cues from German and Swiss industrial design, not American sci-fi.
I am not sure where this person gets the impression that Mac Pros dont have proprietary connectors (round DVI plugs anyone?)
Or that Mac Pro's use the latest tech (they have been off of that mark for a log time). The real goof is the stack-mac idea. I have seen this pitched before.
It's fun and neat, but not something I ever expect to see apple do.
Apple makes things that hide the rough edges of technology. Any kind of stackable tower like that would involve some kind of interconnect for data and power. Something proprietary, over-engineered and vulnerable to crumbs.
Besides Apple would rather we upgrade our current mac by buying a new mac.
windows 7 rocks and is free basically. Win 8 not so much. that said i got my woman a win 8 touch scren laptop and its pretty damn cool. The touch screen is actually really awesome and useful on a laptop. That doesn't mean that win 8 is good, it just means that an OS for both tablets and laptops is a good idea.
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Win7 has been working just fine since I sold my 2008 mac pro. Just as solid as OSX. At least I am not holding my breath praying for a faster mac pro, instead I kept right on going under another OS but pretty much the same software. Matter of fact, I'm having great luck. Now that my new build is complete, cough 3770K cough, going faster now.
eh. I doubt i'll ever sell my Mac Pro 2008, especially since i doubt i'll every get another mac desktop again. Figure keep it forever. maybe that is silly though lol...
Not sure what i could get for it either realistically. not like i want to pay for shipping on this beast. Id keep the crucial m4. Its the dual quad 2.8g and id be willing to part with the new 1tb 7200 hdd. its got a sapphire 6870 1g and 14 gigs of ram and a new IDE super drive.
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It's great to see this thread still going strong.
I've actually decided I won't be buying a new Mac Pro as my next machine. I've taken my Mac Pro money and put it towards a very different "luxury-that-I-don't-need" area, one that is much closer to my heart.
I'll probably be buying either a Mac Mini or an iMac sometime later this year after they're updated again.
I've actually decided I won't be buying a new Mac Pro as my next machine. I've taken my Mac Pro money and put it towards a very different "luxury-that-I-don't-need" area, one that is much closer to my heart.
I'll probably be buying either a Mac Mini or an iMac sometime later this year after they're updated again.
I'll probably be buying either a Mac Mini or an iMac sometime later this year after they're updated again.
How could you do this to us
420 post and counting!
I have gone through a divorce over your thread
Days and Days of only fast food
Where do we go from here
Well, I never was getting a 2013 MP. My upgraded 2008 3.1 does all I need it to
MacPro 2008 3.1 | 14GB Ram | Quadro 4000 | MC6.0 | OS 10.6.8 | MOTU HDX-SDI | ATTO R644| LaCie 324
I'll probably be buying either a Mac Mini or an iMac sometime later this year after they're updated again.
How could you do this to us
420 post and counting!
I have gone through a divorce over your thread
Days and Days of only fast food
Where do we go from here
Well, I never was getting a 2013 MP. My upgraded 2008 3.1 does all I need it to
MacPro 2008 3.1 | 14GB Ram | Quadro 4000 | MC6.0 | OS 10.6.8 | MOTU HDX-SDI | ATTO R644| LaCie 324
Well, I guess I shouldn't rule it out completely. I can't know for sure what my finances will be like when the new Mac Pro is announced, and depending on how much superior it is to the other machines I may decide to splurge anyway.. but right now it looks like I won't be able to afford it, and since I never really needed it, it's kind of a no brainer.
I'm ready for something that can eat real-time processes alive - i just hope the OS is happy with VE Pro, Kontakt, etc. There are already all 64 bit - but some things still don't play nice in lion, nevermind ML.