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3bs

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Doesn't really interest me that much. The position of the power and volume buttons is very intriguing but I'll definitely have to try it in my hands to tell if it'll work or not.
 

tbayrgs

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http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/09/lg-optimus-g2-leak/

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-optimus-g2-shown-clearest-photos-yet

Looks pretty nice, but I would like to know the battery capacity.

What do you guys think about the volume buttons and power button on the back of the phone?

Eagerly awaiting onthecouchagain's take on the button placement...;) (sorry couch, couldn't resist).

While I tend to be in the minority regarding feelings about top edge power button placement (I prefer it), I'll be surprised to hear someone thinks the placement of those buttons on the G2 are a good idea. There is nothing ergonomically beneficial to having them on the back. While I can appreciate having minimal bezel, relocating the volume and power buttons to the back creates more problems than it solves--raised buttons would be pressed every time you put the phone down while flush or recessed buttons would be a PITA to use. And how many fingerprints would you have to wipe off the camera after missing the buttons?

IMO the buttons ruin what is a pretty good looking device with the specs to match.
 

tbayrgs

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Forget the buttons, look at the nearly bezel free display. I wish more oems would get on board with this design philosophy. Imo that should be the only reason why you have on screen buttons.

Simply gorgeous.

But is sounds like in order to have such a thin bezel the power and volume buttons needed to be moved to accommodate. I personally will give up a mm or two on the sides/top to keep those controls there.
 

strausd

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The problem I have with it is the fact that vertically it is not symmetrical. The Nexus 4, physically, is vertically symmetrical. However, thanks to the software buttons, typing in landscape is not symmetrical. And this is something that really annoys me and is one of the biggest problems I have with the Nexus 4. However, this can be counteracted thanks to pie control on CM or PA.

The G2, however, cannot be fixed. The top bezel is shorter than the bottom. I took a screen shot into Photoshop real quick to take it through vanishing point and do a quick relative measurement.

Now the units aren't correct, but relative to each other it is easy to tell that the top one is shorter. And vanishing point takes into account perspective.

Plus I hate that there is no easy way to get to your multitasking apps. Definitely not a fan of the menu button there.
 

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Dontazemebro

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I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
But is sounds like in order to have such a thin bezel the power and volume buttons needed to be moved to accommodate. I personally will give up a mm or two on the sides/top to keep those controls there.

You could be right but I think it's one of those wait & see hands on approach kind of deals. It looks ergonomically incorrect but a lot of R&D goes into these types of projects and it might not be all that bad.
 

Explicitic

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For me, placing the the buttons on the back isn't a bad idea. I like the idea of simply moving a finger and being able to control the volume and whatnot. It's a good idea for one handed use.
 

strausd

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For me, placing the the buttons on the back isn't a bad idea. I like the idea of simply moving a finger and being able to control the volume and whatnot. It's a good idea for one handed use.

Ya I think it could work out. It just depends on how much pressure is required to press each button.
 

tbayrgs

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Ya I think it could work out. It just depends on how much pressure is required to press each button.

When I stop and think a bit more about it, I can see some value in having the volume buttons on the back--I've certainly accidentally hit the volume rocker on my One with my thumb. Placing the power/sleep on the back though means you always will have to pick up the phone to turn on the screen. I like being able to quickly press the power button on my phone while it's sitting on the table/desk to check notifications.
 

viskon

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The volume button placement intrigues me. I think it might be convenient for people with smaller hands to have buttons on the rear of the phone. I think they could have gone further and even put the power button there.
 

strausd

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When I stop and think a bit more about it, I can see some value in having the volume buttons on the back--I've certainly accidentally hit the volume rocker on my One with my thumb. Placing the power/sleep on the back though means you always will have to pick up the phone to turn on the screen. I like being able to quickly press the power button on my phone while it's sitting on the table/desk to check notifications.

Well if you are saying it is good so you won't have to pick up your phone to turn the screen on, you will have to pick up the phone to look at the screen...
 

tbayrgs

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Well if you are saying it is good so you won't have to pick up your phone to turn the screen on, you will have to pick up the phone to look at the screen...

Exactly. Volume buttons on back may be manageable, power button on the back is a poor decision.
 

onthecouchagain

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Finally, on screen home buttons done right. This is what Samsung should've done with the S4.

Volume rockers on the back is a little bizarre. Where's the power button? On the back too? What the heck? :eek:
 

strausd

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Finally, on screen home buttons done right. This is what Samsung should've done with the S4.

Volume rockers on the back is a little bizarre. Where's the power button? On the back too? What the heck? :eek:

I'm not sure I would classify a lack of a multitasking button as "done right." And you still have the problem with asymmetrical landscape operations, making typing a little odd.

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Exactly. Volume buttons on back may be manageable, power button on the back is a poor decision.

They should have put a fingerprint scanner where the power button is. That'd be pretty cool.
 

onthecouchagain

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I'm not sure I would classify a lack of a multitasking button as "done right." And you still have the problem with asymmetrical landscape operations, making typing a little odd.

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They should have put a fingerprint scanner where the power button is. That'd be pretty cool.


Agreed. It should be a multitasking button.

But still kudos for on screen keys. I'm a big fan of getting rid of physical buttons.
 

ChrisTX

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Could it also be that the phone is so thin it requires the buttons to be on the rear? I am intrigued by this phone, but must hold out for the Note 3. However you can consider my interest piqued! :D
 

strausd

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Agreed. It should be a multitasking button.

But still kudos for on screen keys. I'm a big fan of getting rid of physical buttons.

I am too. But right now it comes at a cost to landscape typing. I would love to see some keyboard devs try to fix this.

For example, when you're on a Nexus 4 and go into landscape with the keyboard up, you lose like .2" on the right side. Meaning your right thumb now has to reach .2" over when your left thumb doesn't. However, if the landscape keyboard would also move .2" over from the left side as well, this would fix the problem. But nobody has done that.
 

Dontazemebro

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I dunno, somewhere in West Texas
I am too. But right now it comes at a cost to landscape typing. I would love to see some keyboard devs try to fix this.

For example, when you're on a Nexus 4 and go into landscape with the keyboard up, you lose like .2" on the right side. Meaning your right thumb now has to reach .2" over when your left thumb doesn't. However, if the landscape keyboard would also move .2" over from the left side as well, this would fix the problem. But nobody has done that.

Honestly strausd, I think you're making a bigger deal out of this than it is. The inches you're requesting for devs to fix just seems so trivial. Do you really notice that much of a difference, Or better yet, does it really affect how you type?
 

strausd

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Honestly strausd, I think you're making a bigger deal out of this than it is. The inches you're requesting for devs to fix just seems so trivial. Do you really notice that much of a difference, Or better yet, does it really affect how you type?

Yes. If the answer was no, why would I even mention it? Slight differences make a big deal to how you type. Imagine if all your keys in portrait were shifted over .2" and your right thumb had to be further over.
 
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