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Life expectancy of Pro Display XDR?
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I hope they keep things as they are: a prosumer display which has all those things and a pro display that just focuses on being the most amazing display possible. Need a webcam? Buy the Logitech one which has better picture quality anyway. Need sound? Buy Airpods Max or external speakers which have better sound anyway.
Given the track record Apple has with extremely underwhelming and utterly bad webcams, I don't want them to put one in the next pro display. Their webcams are an insult to any intelligent buyer.
Webcams and Speakers are nice to have but not a necessity. I'm more interested in what the A13 SoC might bring to the display. I know currently it doesn't provide any special feature, but Apple has a record of adding features that take advantage of hidden hardware via software updates (like the AirPods Pro motion sensor). I mean... at least we can have AirPlay right? @Apple?
It does provide the processing of the camera and audio and I personally don‘t expect them to add anything. They just needed to launch a standalone display without too much development so they frankensteined something together with parts they had at hand. But who knows!
A display, just like anything you buy, could die unexpectedly. While you expect it to last x number of years, it is not manufactured to last forever. Planned obsolescence. I've had displays from Apple run for decades and some that didn't last 3 years. I could have gone out of my way to resurrect the dead display but the cost of a new one with all the new features that came with it trumped my desire to do so. Sort of how like you want mini-LED display right now versus non-mini LED.
There's no point in buying something that you don't want because they don't offer what you want unless you have a critical need (as in, your current display is literally dead).
And lest we forget, there is a real chip supply shortage going on right now. So much so that it has impacted Apples' development cycle. You think their decision to use what you'd consider outdated technology in their new ARM Macs was not impacted by this? They can't force the supply chain to deliver something it doesn't have to deliver... but it can deliver something it has available to deliver.
I would suspect that it will be 2 years before all the supply chain slowdowns get fully corrected. As such, these first ARM Macs are going to show some age before they are even delivered to the customer. The impatient customer will buy whatever is offered to them, whereas the patient one will wait for what they truly want. I'd say that your M3 line will be the unconstrained design and everything up until then will have constraints placed upon them due to supply chain issues.
When Apple set out their roadmap... it was before the pandemic and the supply chain issues that came from it. As such, that 2 year timeline to get everything to ARM will happen, but it's not going to be the same hardware design they had planned. You will see them add all those obvious shortcomings to the later models...because they literally will be able to in bulk and not in a trickle fashion due to supply constraints.
There's no point in buying something that you don't want because they don't offer what you want unless you have a critical need (as in, your current display is literally dead).
And lest we forget, there is a real chip supply shortage going on right now. So much so that it has impacted Apples' development cycle. You think their decision to use what you'd consider outdated technology in their new ARM Macs was not impacted by this? They can't force the supply chain to deliver something it doesn't have to deliver... but it can deliver something it has available to deliver.
I would suspect that it will be 2 years before all the supply chain slowdowns get fully corrected. As such, these first ARM Macs are going to show some age before they are even delivered to the customer. The impatient customer will buy whatever is offered to them, whereas the patient one will wait for what they truly want. I'd say that your M3 line will be the unconstrained design and everything up until then will have constraints placed upon them due to supply chain issues.
When Apple set out their roadmap... it was before the pandemic and the supply chain issues that came from it. As such, that 2 year timeline to get everything to ARM will happen, but it's not going to be the same hardware design they had planned. You will see them add all those obvious shortcomings to the later models...because they literally will be able to in bulk and not in a trickle fashion due to supply constraints.
Going back to the topic at hand: I just ordered an XDR display. Delivery will take 3-4 weeks. Speaking of supply-chain issues. Regardless, I want the display now, it's good as it is now, and waiting for the next best thing is always a gamble and makes you wait forever. I am sure I will be very happy with it, even if Apple decides to bring an updated version at this years's WWDC (something I highly doubt, but I'll happily eat my words if it happens).
Now the question is: How do I survive the excitement while waiting 3-4 weeks for the delivery?
Now the question is: How do I survive the excitement while waiting 3-4 weeks for the delivery?
Nice, If I buckle and go for the XDR it will be the glossy. Look forward to hear your assessment.
I love my XDR, even though I am retired and have absolutely no justification for it. But, when I move down the bench to a Linux box with a 4k LG, I am reminded of the old days when a monitor was a television, with a pixel count of bad by worse.Going back to the topic at hand: I just ordered an XDR display. Delivery will take 3-4 weeks. Speaking of supply-chain issues. Regardless, I want the display now, it's good as it is now, and waiting for the next best thing is always a gamble and makes you wait forever. I am sure I will be very happy with it, even if Apple decides to bring an updated version at this years's WWDC (something I highly doubt, but I'll happily eat my words if it happens).
Now the question is: How do I survive the excitement while waiting 3-4 weeks for the delivery?
And no matter how good in-laptop or in-monitor speakers are, a $19 set of Walmart separates will be bigger and better. And a really good webcam is cheap - some will exactly match the decor of the XDR, and there is no notch.
No buyers remorse here.
How’s this puppy treating you? WWDC came and went with no mention of Mac Pro or Pro Display XDR… and Ross Young’s 5K Mini-LED thing keeps getting pushed further out (spring 2023 he’s saying now?)Going back to the topic at hand: I just ordered an XDR display. Delivery will take 3-4 weeks. Speaking of supply-chain issues. Regardless, I want the display now, it's good as it is now, and waiting for the next best thing is always a gamble and makes you wait forever. I am sure I will be very happy with it, even if Apple decides to bring an updated version at this years's WWDC (something I highly doubt, but I'll happily eat my words if it happens).
Now the question is: How do I survive the excitement while waiting 3-4 weeks for the delivery?
Speaking of Ross Young… if he’s not talking about a 32” (or 36 or whatever) 7k Mini-LED Pro Display XDR successor, it makes me wonder if whatever this mythical 7k display is actually much earlier in development (if it is something that’s coming to market). He seems to be more aware of things much closer to release.
So, I think you chose wisely to get the current Pro Display XDR and I’m a little tempted myself
EDIT… just noticed this person is suspended. Whoops!
How about you, Seiko4169? Have you pulled the trigger?
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How’s this puppy treating you? WWDC came and went with no mention of Mac Pro or Pro Display XDR… and Ross Young’s 5K Mini-LED thing keeps getting pushed further out (spring 2023 he’s saying now?)
Speaking of Ross Young… if he’s not talking about a 32” (or 36 or whatever) 7k Mini-LED Pro Display XDR successor, it makes me wonder if whatever this mythical 7k display is actually much earlier in development (if it is something that’s coming to market). He seems to be more aware of things much closer to release.
So, I think you chose wisely to get the current Pro Display XDR and I’m a little tempted myself
EDIT… just noticed this person is suspended. Whoops!
How about you, Seiko4169? Have you pulled the trigger?
I bought one a week ago and absolutely love it. It said it would take a month for it to arrive, but it literally took 7 days. Its sooooooooo nice and why I waited so long I don't know (oh right because its so freaking expensive lol). It is a beautiful piece of tech and I am very glad that I was able to pick one up.
Nice! Yeah I’ve been watching their ship times for a few months now, they got backed out a bit during one of those shutdowns in China, but I noticed they’re down to like a 2 week estimated delivery time. Yeah I’ve only seen them in the Apple store and they seem pretty glorious to me. I just don’t currently own a Mac that can drive it so I’m mulling that over currently. (Not entirely true—- I have a 16“ M1 Max MBP but it’s a work laptop; while it would definitely be driving the XDR I’d just like to use the same display for my own desktop machine.)
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