Can't offer any comment on your LR performance issue. However I have learned to like Photos on OS X combined with MacPhun plugins.
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Can't offer any comment on your LR performance issue. However I have learned to like Photos on OS X combined with MacPhun plugins.
I'm late to this party, but I am seeing similar lag (especially when using the adjustment brush) on a mid-2010 iMac running 10.11.4 and Lightroom CC. I didn't notice it until recently, when I started using the adjustment brush a little more often, so not sure when it started.
Adobe has already stated that LR6 will be the last perpetual version.
I've just found this http://lightzoneproject.org/ , LightZone, free open source alternative for Windows / Linux / Mac.
I have only just installed it but seems to be pretty good at first look.
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Hugh
How does it interwork with plugins such as PS, Topaz, OnOne, MacPhun, or DxO?
Hi there
sorry to hear your having problems,
FWIW, I'm using a refurb 2014 MBP i7 16GB with the latest OS
I am using Adobe CC and both LR and PS really fly
At the start, I was having problems but that was operator error, I had allocated 100% memory to PS,
with the help of the guys here, got that sorted now I am using recommended memory allocation for PS,
So my guess is there must be something else wrong
Hope you get it sorted, suspect something else is the problem,
I think Adobe is there for the long haul, most of my previous raw editing software like Nikon Capture NX2 and Aperture ended up as "abandonware" which is very inconvenient, unless the raw images are all tiffs, there is always a re-edit, and huge task
.......Gary
No mention of processor, ssd vs hdd, location of LR catalog.
On my 3.0 rMBP, Lightroom runs as quick or quicker than the many other editing apps I use or have tried. Sliders render in real time. On my wife's 1.7 MBA some sliders can get rough at times.
Without knowing your setup, I'm inclined to suggest the problem is not Lightroom.
On my 3.0 rMBP, Lightroom runs as quick or quicker than the many other editing apps I use or have tried. Sliders render in real time. On my wife's 1.7 MBA some sliders can get rough at times.
Without knowing your setup, I'm inclined to suggest the problem is not Lightroom.
Does this have a DAM component, or does it just rely on the user to organize the way the images are stored?
Lr has NOT disappeared from at least the US web site. I found it available and with a click on the "buy" I could get the download perpetual license version or an upgrade. And of course DVD copies abound at retail sites all over the place.
I'm not sure that Leica really knows that Adobe is ending their perpetual licensing of Lr/Ps despite their announcement. Adobe has been super successful with the CC plan, so I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the perpetual version (the numbering is different; Lr CC is presently at 2015.5).
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No DAM. It's basically like Pixelmator, Acorn, GIMP, etc etc in that regard. You open a file, work on it, save it. It can save to its own format or a number of standard ones. It doesn't do metadata stuff either.
This is sometimes seen -- it depends on the photo type and resolution, Mac model and maybe what OS X version. Editing 42 megapixel raw stills from a Sony A7RII on my 2015 top-spec iMac 27, it can be occasionally sluggish. This is not the hardware or OS -- it is poorly optimized Adobe software.
This is obvious since for some tasks I can disable the GPU in LR preferences and it actually speeds up. Also I imported the same set of 42 megapixel raw stills into both Apple Photos 1.5 and Lightroom CC. With LR using previously-built 1:1 previews, the full-screen browsing rate in the Library module is about 0.81 photos per second, IOW 1.2 sec per photo.
In Apple Photos, the full-screen browsing rate is 6.4 photos per second, or about 7.9 times faster than Lightroom. This is on the exact same machine, a 2015 top-spec iMac 27 with 1TB SSD and M395X.
The Adobe Lightroom product manager has recently publically apologized about the poor quality of their software.
Adobe will be making some significant performance improvements to After Effects, Photoshop and Premiere by using Apple's Metal API. They have already demonstrated some of these. I haven't heard them mention Lightroom, but it really needs improvement.
Its not until you experience Apple's product since Photo's that you can appreciate how pitifully slow Adobe products are. Perhaps they don't care as perhaps the Windows world is used to slow renders. C1 is no better.
Just Apple stands out and I wonder if they're taking shortcuts somewhere?? I'm used to working with Fuji XTrans files which require 3 passes to demosiac versus 1 for Bayer. Preview can render a raw in a tiny fraction of the time it takes Adobe. Realistically does not make sense and I wonder if we're looking at a JPEG render with a raw file type attribute.
Hang in there Cheese! I just unplugged the 2007 iMac for the last time the other day. It's been a champ for almost 9 years but I hadn't used it for photo of videos in probably the last 2-3 years. Even Aperture and iMovie were too laggy. I've been on my "new" machine, a 2010 MBP for several years now and Capture One Pro 9 and the latest iMovie run just fine. If you haven't looked at swapping in a SSD then consider it. It was the single biggest improvement to my 2010 MBP and made it more than useable with todays larger file sizes.
Not that I'd ever try to convince anyone not to go for something new! I'll be there in a year or two. If you are looking to squeak a little more time out try installing a SSD. It can make it feel like a new machine.
Leica Camera has for several years been bundling Lightroom with a perpetual license with its cameras, and they recently sent out a notice explaining that, going forward, this would be changed to a 90-day subscription to Lightroom CC. Their reason for this was that Adobe was ending the Lightroom perpetual license. I'm not sure if I can dig up that notice, but Leica did announce a new camera today, and sure enough it no longer comes with a copy of Lightroom with a perpetual license, but rather a 90-day subscription to Lightroom CC:
What still isn't clear is if this is just for Leica customers or for all customers, but as we have determined, the links on the Adobe Lightroom page to order Lightroom with a perpetual license have been removed, so things aren't looking promising for a Lightroom 7 perpetual license. In fact, I'd wager that there will not be a Lightroom 7 at all. There will only be Lightroom CC going forward.
I hope I'm wrong.
What still isn't clear is if this is just for Leica customers or for all customers, but as we have determined, the links on the Adobe Lightroom page to order Lightroom with a perpetual license have been removed, so things aren't looking promising for a Lightroom 7 perpetual license. In fact, I'd wager that there will not be a Lightroom 7 at all. There will only be Lightroom CC going forward.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Yeah, I'd seen that.Leica Camera has for several years been bundling Lightroom with a perpetual license with its cameras, and they recently sent out a notice explaining that, going forward, this would be changed to a 90-day subscription to Lightroom CC. Their reason for this was that Adobe was ending the Lightroom perpetual license. I'm not sure if I can dig up that notice, but Leica did announce a new camera today, and sure enough it no longer comes with a copy of Lightroom with a perpetual license, but rather a 90-day subscription to Lightroom CC:
What still isn't clear is if this is just for Leica customers or for all customers, but as we have determined, the links on the Adobe Lightroom page to order Lightroom with a perpetual license have been removed, so things aren't looking promising for a Lightroom 7 perpetual license. In fact, I'd wager that there will not be a Lightroom 7 at all. There will only be Lightroom CC going forward.
I hope I'm wrong.
But not an Adobe announcement.
And I still get the links to the perpetual copy when I access the Adobe website. It's hard to find, but the whole site is a horror of navigation. I google "adobe buy" and this was the first thing I got when I clicked: http://www.adobe.com/products/catal...er_sl_catalog_sl_software_sl_mostpopular.html
But aside from theoretical objections to a subscription license vs a perpetual license, I would think some folks would still want Lr 6, since the only way to save much money on the perpetual is to skip upgrades. And that assumes as well that the buyer is only interested in the less-valuable Lr part of the Photography Plan bundle.
Well, I'm still putting around with Lightroom 5. For ten years I ran Aperture and Lightroom side-by-side, hedging my bets. Now I'm running Lightroom and Capture One side-by-side, still hedging my bets. I must be insane.
It looks very good. Affinity Photo is a photo editor. On their blog site they said they are working on extending this to be a replacement for Aperture which also organizes and archives your photos. I can't wait.
This fall watch for the launch of Photo Raw which will be the replacement of the current On1 Photo 10 suite. On1 will introduce their own raw converters and they perform fast enough to not need to render previews in advance like you may need to do with LR.
I couldn't tell from their blurbs and promos whether the previews they're showing in the upcoming browser are those contained in the RAW itself or whether they were generated on the fly. I'd hope the latter, but the stuff I saw was kinda vague about that.
When using the demo of 10.5, it wasn't exactly swift with my images. It may have had to use Apple's RAW, but I suspect it was just using embedded previews. Maybe the new browser will be better; I suppose caching is faster than actually writing previews but you also have to copy in the images from the camera or SD card too. And 10.5 lacks much in the way of ingestion options, so although you can see files quickly, I'm not sure you get the whole camera to computer workflow done any faster.
Meanwhile, for a really quick browser for RAWs check out FastRawViewer. I had sorta dismissed it after a trial a while ago, but the developer convinced me to try again. And it's great; I now do more ETTR shots and the tools to cull stuff like that and brackets and such are much better than Lr or On1 or Photo Mechanic. What's especially nice is you can use either FRV's RAW processing or the embedded preview, and you can quickly apply WB and other adjustments to see if the image is worth keeping.
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