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gotluck

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I have both though I haven't done extensive testing of Chromecast. Can you push video content to the Chromecast and then do something else on the phone itself? The Cast button seemed inconsistent to me as it sometimes popped up in a YouTube vid and other times it didn't.

yea, the cast just shows in the notification bar and you are free to do other things

works same way on iOS to chromecast too
 
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Shanghaichica

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I have both though I haven't done extensive testing of Chromecast. Can you push video content to the Chromecast and then do something else on the phone itself? The Cast button seemed inconsistent to me as it sometime popped up in a YouTube vid and other times it didn't.

Yes you can.
 

Vegastouch

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I've had a iPhone 3Gs, 4, 4S and 5. The only thing I believe iPhones are better at is backup and integration with Apple products, I find that most iPhone users just regurgitate FUD about Android and don't really know what they are talking about, this thread is a case in point and has many examples of iPhone users that have never used a flagship Android phone.

Agree. Some of these responses are ridiculous. One guy hasnt had a Android since 2009 , lol. They are just a bit different now.

To the guy that said iMessage and Facetime, .....i guess you never heard of Hangouts which does the same thing except it isnt just limited to Android. You can use it iPhone, iPads as well as Windows.


And this guy:

Find my iPhone
iCloud
iTunes for managing media and restoring
Apple Store for in person help
Uniformity across all devices running iOS
More cases and third party accessories available
Continuity and handoff coming up in iOS 8

Why even respond with stuff like this?

The OP asked what features does the iPhone have that Android does not.
You listed more cases and accessories? Like Android doesnt have cases or assesories, at all? lol.

Google has cloud features....including 20,000 songs for free on Google Music. How many free ones does iTunes give you?

Google has support you just dont have to go to the store. You call, they help and if it cant be helped, they send you a new phone.

iTunes imo is awful and one reason why i left the iPhone and continuity and handoff isnt out yet.

This thread is really trivial. There are many more things that Android can do that iPhones cant. Just because you can list a few things that iPhones can do isnt a reason to start a thread. Its kind of embarrassing really. The only really major thing iPhones can do is play audio in the background.....which isnt a big deal to me since i have never tried to do that anyways. Ive only found out it cant do this from being in here. Never tried it prior to reading it here.

If you like using a iPhone and its shortcomings, then just use it.
 
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rigormortis

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How can you beat 'Android people' over the head if you don't even have a clue of what you are talking about?

explain why google does not encrypt their phones. and apple does.

explain how you can erase an android phone and get your pictures back (because the disk space was not encrypted) but you can't do the same thing to any of the iPhones since the 3GS came out.

if you can restore an erased iPhone without iCloud or an iTunes backup or having the device jailbroken before hand please do it and prove me wrong

i apoligize about some of the stuff i posted, like android not knowing to save your phone book. but as far as encryption, LTE Chipsets and Android's permissions. android is junk

if you android fans like to say apple is behind the times and is catching up to android. ask yourself why your smart phone is not secure when it leaves the factory. why does google have to tell you to plug your phone in for 2 hours to complete the encryption process???



the discovery of AVAST's study of android phones on ebay and data being able to be retrieved WHICH IS NOT THE CASE on any IPHONE 3GS and above, needs to be fixed. google needs to put out a recall and put out software updates.

software updates on android reference
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-refuses-to-get-pinned-down-to-guaranteeing-Android-updates_id52972

http://androidandme.com/2011/02/new...ne-level-upgrade-for-all-optimus-smartphones/

avast / encrytption
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/androids-factory-data-reset-comes-up-short/

iOS encryption
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2042743?tstart=0
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4175?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

please PROVE that ios's security keys are retrievable after a factory reset without using iCloud or iTunes or third party software before the erasure proess before saying i do not know what i am talking about
 

Apple blogger

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If you're referring to the second part of his statement detailing how one can access the Google Play store from any computer to purchase apps, iOS doesn't have this capability and never has. You either need to purchase from the App Store on the device or from iTunes on a computer authorized to make purchases for that Apple ID, and there is no way to specify which device gets the app using the later method without having the device either plugged into the computer or synced locally on the same wifi network. Google's implementation is far more convenient. I've installed apps on my Android devices directly from my iPad--certainly can't do the reverse.

We can.. Well since google play is on the internet, not every computer, but if the computer has iTunes, we can it doesn't take time to get authorization .. And we can set which device should get the automatic download or not. You can do that from the device itself..
If ur saying google has the option of doing that directly via the computer then, yes, we can't, but that's not a really needed feature for us...
 

rigormortis

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when you buy an android phone you do not get the superior LTE cell phone radio. here is a list of High speed channels the iPhone has compared to all the popular android phones of today. notice that the only thing that comes close to iPhone, is the amazon fire.

when you buy an android flag ship phone you are pretty much given the same radio that was in the iPhone 5 , 2 years ago.


iphone has the most channels. if you buy an iPhone today. even if its that cheap plastic one. and you want to switch carriers. chances are you will not have to buy a new phone to keep the fastest speeds.

however, t-mobile is rolling out new networks in the 600 or 700 mhz range <?> and iPhone does not yet support those bands. well neither does other companies

verizon uses 4 and 13, AT&T uses 2,4 and 17 and t-mobile uses 2,4,12

so the ultimate challenge for any unlocked verizon phone is to be able to go from version and AT&T and t-mobile without having to buy a new phone. while staying connected to all 3 networks at their top speed.
sprint has decided to jump the gun and announce they are ready to unlock phones. sadly they do not unlock apple products. so having channel 26 in the same phone would be a cool feature someday

a couple weeks ago if you went to sprint's unlocking policy it said to come back in feb 2015
if you check that page now, it basically says call us at *2 and request your Master Subsidy Unlock Code!


t-mo is 700, 1700 and 1900
AT&T uses 700, 1700 and 1900
verizon uses 700 and 1700

when other cell phone companies only list 700 , 1900 etc i do not know if that means all of it, like a,b,c,d,e,f



APPLE iPhone 5C - 5S - iPad air and iPad mini retina
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25) (cdma) <— Verizon ??
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26) < - sprint??
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25) <— gsm

the iPhone 5 from 2 years ago
1, 3, 5, 13, 25 or 4,17 or 1,3,5
amazon fire phone
700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600

htc desire 610
700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - USA

samung galsxy s5
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-G900A (AT&T)
LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 - SM-G900T (T-mobile)

(notice how the g5 has separate models for AT&T and t-mobile where the iPhone 5S only has one)

lg g3
800 (band 20), 1800 (band 3), 2600 (band 7) MHz

Samsung Glaxy Mega
800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600

Htc one M8
700 / 1700 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - AT&T

notice how this has also 2 different models for AT&T and t-mobile
unlike apple

nexus 5
800 (band 20), 850 (band 5), 900 (band 8), 1800 (band 3), 2100 (band 1), 2600 (band 7) MHz

Motorola MOTO G
NO LTE

amazon kindle fire HDX tablet
this information is very buried. but from memory its only 3 channels.

samsung galaxy note 10.1 brand new 2014 edition
800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600

samsung galaxy note 4 ( not yet released )
800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600

that nokia lumia 928 that my friend really likes ( windows phone )
700 MHz Class 13 / 1700 / 2100 or
LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600


I think the android phone manufactures are very proud they saved $1.5 or $5 off the build of materials for not buying newer chipsets. they must be really proud of themselves. just like Radio Shack did when they released the TRS-80 MODEL 1 without lower case and level ii basic.
 
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Lloydbm41

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when you buy an android phone you do not get the superior LTE cell phone radio. here is a list of High speed channels the iPhone has compared to all the popular android phones of today. notice that the only thing that comes close to iPhone, is the amazon fire.

when you buy an android flag ship phone you are pretty much given the same radio that was in the iPhone 5 , 2 years ago.
You do realize that an iPhone on AT&T gets the same LTE speeds as any Android LTE phone? You think that the iPhone can magically get 100mps speeds while a Nexus 5 or G3 or Moto X only gets 50mps? You do realize the max speed limitation is based on the network towers, distance to tower, congestion of network and so on? In fact, in many cases, speed to load websites is slower on an iPhone. But keep preaching brother. The iPhone is built with fairy dust and polished with unicorn tears. Makes it better.

notice how the g5 has separate models for AT&T and t-mobile where the iPhone 5S only has one).

Let me educate you on why AT&T and T-Mobile have different models (for most phones that are sold by both carriers) unlike with iPhone. It is this little thing called Wi-Fi calling that T-Mobile adds for some phones. But whatever. Hype is hype I guess for some people.
 

rigormortis

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You do realize that an iPhone on AT&T gets the same LTE speeds as any Android LTE phone? You think that the iPhone can magically get 100mps speeds while a Nexus 5 or G3 or Moto X only gets 50mps? You do realize the max speed limitation is based on the network towers, distance to tower, congestion of network and so on? In fact, in many cases, speed to load websites is slower on an iPhone. But keep preaching brother. The iPhone is built with fairy dust and polished with unicorn tears. Makes it better.


Let me educate you on why AT&T and T-Mobile have different models (for most phones that are sold by both carriers) unlike with iPhone. It is this little thing called Wi-Fi calling that T-Mobile adds for some phones. But whatever. Hype is hype I guess for some people.

the reason why AT&T and tmobile have different models of the phones is because all the android phones exist in the year 2009-2012 and they do not want to use the newest and latest Cell phone chipsets. they want to save money and increase profit and save money on their phones, hoping you won't notice and hoping you would buy more phones.

wifi calling is moot. you call t-mobile and ask them for a FREE cell phone booster. they are still giving away cell phone boosters to this day. buying any AT&T phone and putting it on t-mobile , or visa versa will work. but without the latest and greatest chipsets, you are going to be connected at a lower speed just like if you took a 2012 verizon iPhone 5 to AT&T.

if u want to be educated more we could talk about 2 x 2 or 3 x 3 spatial streams and how all of us are being tricked into buying new phones that support wifi 802.1n and then realizing we can only connect at 8 to 65mbps because we lack 2 x 2 , 3 x 3 or mimo

they want to use old cheaper cell phone chipsets. this reminds me of the modem wars. everyone was throwing their money away on temporary rockwell standards like v.fc and us robotics was the only modem field upgradable to v.34

my friend who used to work at amazon labs 126 described android pretty easily. he said all they do is copy qualcom design reference guides, and stamp their name on it, and call themselves innovative.

these android companies might as well stamp the back of their phones
" CUSTOM MANUFACTURED FOR RADIO SHACK , A DIVISION OF TANDY " on all their phones.

and when you say that. android people will fight back and say well apple does the same thing , yeah but at least they use better parts.

m not talking abut max speeds. like you are talking about. i am simply stating that if you buy an android phone and take it from one carrier to the other you are going to be stuck at EDGE, GPRS, 3G or 4g speeds. if you take an iPhone 5C or 5s from one carrier to the next, you are more likely to connect to that new cell phone carrier on their 4G LTE speeds. I'm not talking about 15 x 15 or wideband lte or 50 or 100 mbps. I'm simply saying that the iPhone has more channels then the android phones. and you are likely to connect at their top speeds. on channels that are simply not available in most android devices., because of the cheaper radio parts they decided to use.

another popular reason why android does not use the latest and greatest radio parts is ( probably ) because the carrier told them to. thats another innovative thing that apple did. is they broke the contracts with cell phone carriers telling them what they can and cannot include on their phones.

before the iPhone nokia had to have a contract between them and AT&T just for "snake"

i think this is why encryption is not turned on by default on android because the cell phone companies told them not to.

the is why android phones do not feature lojack or find my droid on them by default, because the cell phone company told them not to.

say all you want about ibooks or passbook or health kit, but apple did not have to beg AT&T's lawyers if they can please have these features on their phones
 
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Lloydbm41

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rant of inaccuracies

You are wrong on so many points, but it is obvious it will make no difference what is said or shown to you.

You may want to look up 'AWS' and 'reframing towers' on T-Mobile to educate yourself on some basic concepts as to why things work diff with T-Mobile or why Edge/3g use to be the only option, but now LTE is available. Or not. Don't really care. Someone as biased as you is impossible to have a rational discussion. With that, I bid you adieu.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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There is nothing I can think of. On Android you don't lose any features, you just lose the best out of the box clean uniformity and integration. On Android you will have to create your own uniformity and integration, which is possible via many routes.
 

ozaz

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i think this is why encryption is not turned on by default on android because the cell phone companies told them not to.

I really don't understand the conspirational nature of your points. I agree with you that the encryption is handled better on iPhones, but disagree on the reason.

Encryption is on by default on iPhones because of they have a clever encryption hardware design that encrypts the phone without a user password. This encryption does not secure the phone until the user sets up a lock screen PIN/password, but it does facilitate instantly wiping the phone.

Having encryption on by default on Android phones wouldn't make sense because its not handled in the same way. A boot time password is a necessity for encryption/decryption on Android phones because encryption is done in a more basic way. The approach requires compromises such as background processes won't run until the encryption password is entered, so it makes more sense to leave it to the user to decide if they want to accept the compromises.

Using something like the iPhone approach would require some sort of collaboration between Google and the hardware makers. This is just an example of where the tight hardware+software control that Apple has really shines through.
 

fredaroony

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Find my iPhone
iCloud
iTunes for managing media and restoring
Apple Store for in person help
Uniformity across all devices running iOS
More cases and third party accessories available
Continuity and handoff coming up in iOS 8

Android Device Manager works the same as Find my iPhone.

Not sure what advantage iCloud gives you

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I'd miss decent email support

Is that a joke? The email app in iOS is very very basic.

You can't even attach a file when replying to an email and it's 2014...
 

tbayrgs

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We can.. Well since google play is on the internet, not every computer, but if the computer has iTunes, we can it doesn't take time to get authorization .. And we can set which device should get the automatic download or not. You can do that from the device itself..
If ur saying google has the option of doing that directly via the computer then, yes, we can't, but that's not a really needed feature for us...

What you're describing is not the same and offers nothing near the convenience.

First, it's an all or nothing scenario, meaning you either have to have every app you purchase on iTunes download to your device or none at all. There are plenty of apps I may purchase for my iPhone that I don't want on my other devices and vice versa--there is no way to pick and choose which go where unless your iDevice is wirelessly syncing with the computer using iTunes and presently on the same network.

Second, Google Play can be access through any web browser--that not only means EVERY computer, but also any phone or tablet if I so choose. Like I mentioned before, I can purchase apps for my Android device on my iPad and it'll automatically be loaded on it. I can't even get apps for my iPhone on an iPad unless it's already set up for automatic app downloads--and then I have to have the app loaded on my iPad first. And there are plenty of computers that don't have iTunes--say my work computer for instance.

Getting apps on iDevices isn't difficult by any means, it's just far easier to do on Android.
 

jrswizzle

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You do realize that an iPhone on AT&T gets the same LTE speeds as any Android LTE phone? You think that the iPhone can magically get 100mps speeds while a Nexus 5 or G3 or Moto X only gets 50mps? You do realize the max speed limitation is based on the network towers, distance to tower, congestion of network and so on? In fact, in many cases, speed to load websites is slower on an iPhone. But keep preaching brother. The iPhone is built with fairy dust and polished with unicorn tears. Makes it better.



Let me educate you on why AT&T and T-Mobile have different models (for most phones that are sold by both carriers) unlike with iPhone. It is this little thing called Wi-Fi calling that T-Mobile adds for some phones. But whatever. Hype is hype I guess for some people.

Actually.....

I haven't yet figured it out and suspect perhaps its a software issue related to being on the Android L developer preview....

But my Nexus 5 gets half the wifi speeds my iPhone 5S gets. AND the Nexus has WiFi 802.11ac support where my iPhone 5S does not. I just bought a new Time Capsule that puts out 802.11ac too.....

Not sure if the guy you quoted could perhaps be correct? I also have worse signal on my Nexus 5 than on my 5S.

Sitting here doing speedtests and my 5S is consistently on LTE whereas my Nexus 5 seems to bounce back to HSPA. Done 4 tests so far, and the iPhone did better every time. Obviously there's a big price difference between the two devices.....but this is the only comparison I can do and it's something I've noticed in using the Nexus 5.
 
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Dmunjal

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Why does the 5S not support the latest wifi standard 802.11ac? All the Android flagships for the past two generations support it. Why did Apple take two years longer to support LTE compared to Android phones? Maybe Apple is being cheap?
 

BrettApple

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Why does the 5S not support the latest wifi standard 802.11ac? All the Android flagships for the past two generations support it. Why did Apple take two years longer to support LTE compared to Android phones? Maybe Apple is being cheap?

802.11ac is fairly recent, and Apple does tend to be a little late on the newest standards. But this is usually because they are waiting to get a chipset that will meet their requirements first.

Such as LTE. When it came out the HTC Thunderbolt (Early 2011) was the first to take advantage of it, I had one, and it was horrible. The LTE radio sucked battery like no other, and was very unstable, even after all their software updates.

Meanwhile Apple put out the iPhone 4s in late 2011 without LTE, because it wasn't ready, and they wanted something that would be power efficient and work for their specific case. Then in 2012 the iPhone 5 came out with LTE and it was great timing. More places had LTE by then, and the chips had become more advanced, more efficient and stable.

I wouldn't call Apple cheap though. They just take their time to get it right.

That being said, I've had various Android flagships since 2010 (HTC Incredible, Thunderbolt, Gnex, GS III, etc.) and only recently moved to the iPhone (10 months) with the 4s, 5, and 5c. And I've like almost all of them, bar the Samsungs build quality.

And from what I've seen, Android manufactures are able to release devices faster because they don't stick to a release cycle like Apple, thus allowing them to put out newer tech sooner. But it isn't always as refined as the iPhone, because Apple waits till they are 100% happy with it.
 

Dmunjal

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802.11ac is fairly recent, and Apple does tend to be a little late on the newest standards. But this is usually because they are waiting to get a chipset that will meet their requirements first.

Such as LTE. When it came out the HTC Thunderbolt (Early 2011) was the first to take advantage of it, I had one, and it was horrible. The LTE radio sucked battery like no other, and was very unstable, even after all their software updates.

Meanwhile Apple put out the iPhone 4s in late 2011 without LTE, because it wasn't ready, and they wanted something that would be power efficient and work for their specific case. Then in 2012 the iPhone 5 came out with LTE and it was great timing. More places had LTE by then, and the chips had become more advanced, more efficient and stable.

I wouldn't call Apple cheap though. They just take their time to get it right.

That being said, I've had various Android flagships since 2010 (HTC Incredible, Thunderbolt, Gnex, GS III, etc.) and only recently moved to the iPhone (10 months) with the 4s, 5, and 5c. And I've like almost all of them, bar the Samsungs build quality.

And from what I've seen, Android manufactures are able to release devices faster because they don't stick to a release cycle like Apple, thus allowing them to put out newer tech sooner. But it isn't always as refined as the iPhone, because Apple waits till they are 100% happy with it.

That's the answer i expected. When Apple is late, they're waiting to "get it right." When others miss features (who cares about the # of LTE bands anyway?), it's because they are being cheap. The Galaxy S4 had 802.11ac in early 2013 and Apple still doesn't have it. I think the 5s should have had it. Chipsets were mature enough to put it into the AirPort.
 

MikeyMike01

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I switched from an iPhone 5s to a Nexus 5, and I miss iMessage, Mute Switch, Touch ID, Push for my Yahoo email, Cydia, and third party apps that aren't complete garbage.
 

Apple blogger

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What you're describing is not the same and offers nothing near the convenience.

First, it's an all or nothing scenario, meaning you either have to have every app you purchase on iTunes download to your device or none at all. There are plenty of apps I may purchase for my iPhone that I don't want on my other devices and vice versa--there is no way to pick and choose which go where unless your iDevice is wirelessly syncing with the computer using iTunes and presently on the same network.

Second, Google Play can be access through any web browser--that not only means EVERY computer, but also any phone or tablet if I so choose. Like I mentioned before, I can purchase apps for my Android device on my iPad and it'll automatically be loaded on it. I can't even get apps for my iPhone on an iPad unless it's already set up for automatic app downloads--and then I have to have the app loaded on my iPad first. And there are plenty of computers that don't have iTunes--say my work computer for instance.

Getting apps on iDevices isn't difficult by any means, it's just far easier to do on Android.

Right .. Understood.. Gotcha!#
 

cube

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Some I can think of:

- The Hub
- Boot-time system integrity check
- Sticker purchases
 

AustinIllini

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I've had a iPhone 3Gs, 4, 4S and 5. The only thing I believe iPhones are better at is backup and integration with Apple products, I find that most iPhone users just regurgitate FUD about Android and don't really know what they are talking about, this thread is a case in point and has many examples of iPhone users that have never used a flagship Android phone.

What phone is that?
 
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