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lotuses

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If i'm not constantly updating this pos, i'm trying to FIX something in it. Nothing opens properly and nothing runs the way it should. This OSX is giving me the worst computer experience ever. I absolutely hate it. Is there any way i can downgrade or something to an OS that doesn't suck completely?
 

Intell

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You can't call it the worst ever without having first used 10.0, 10.1, and 10.2 for at least a month each. 10.0 may take the title as overall worst ever with 10.1 close behind.
 
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This OSX is giving me the worst computer experience ever. I absolutely hate it. Is there any way i can downgrade or something to an OS that doesn't suck completely?

Then either return your Mac or state what exact Mac you have, as downgrading is not that easy. 2012 Macs for example cannot run Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard anymore, which is the OS I use, as Mac OS X 10.7 Lion and OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion are not for me.
 

lotuses

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actually i HAVE used each version of this OS, i purchased this computer 3 months ago and no matter what version i'm using, it's still terrible. i'm on macbook pro and version 10.8.
 

Intell

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actually i HAVE used each version of this OS, i purchased this computer 3 months ago and no matter what version i'm using, it's still terrible. i'm on macbook pro and version 10.8.

You used 10.0.0 way back in 2001? I highly doubt that. Few used it for longer than a test drive on their new Mac and mostly stuck with OS 9.
 
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actually i HAVE used each version of this OS, i purchased this computer 3 months ago and no matter what version i'm using, it's still terrible. i'm on macbook pro and version 10.8.

Then you are stuck with Mac OS X 10.7 Lion or OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion, as Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, mentioned earlier, will not run on that machine.
And Mac OS X 10.0 Cheetah, Mac OS X 10.1 Puma, Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar, Mac OS X 10.3 Panther, Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard will also not run on a 2012 Mac, or even 2010 Mac or 2008 Mac (excluding Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard) or 2006 Mac (excluding Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger + Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard) or 2004 Mac (excluding Mac OS X 10.3 Panther, Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard).
 

fisherking

macrumors G4
Jul 16, 2010
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you're having a bad time; got it. something is wrong, that's hardly a reflection on the OS and EVERYONE'S experience. for me, personally, ML is now my BEST mac experience (a title formerly held by snow leopard).

have you tried:

reinstalling the OS?
contacting apple?

3 months? CALL apple, see a 'genius'. do something constructive, rather than making absolute pronouncements on web forums....
 

SR45

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Aug 17, 2011
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OP, you have given so very little in the way for anyone to help you. You just hate it, but have not told us why. Did you upgrade ? Do you have software on the system that may cause issues since they may not be supported with the new OS X ? Did you do a clean install or upgrade ?

I would save what you can and do a clean install only. Check out the system first for a bit, than install one item at a time to see if that might be the issue. What computer do you have, how much memory, and what OS X was on it before you went to 10.8 ?

PS: I have OS X 10.8.2 and have had no real issue other than a slow shutdown. Of course I don't have any programs that are not current, have now downloaded anything from the internet that is not Apple approved.
 

SDAVE

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Jun 16, 2007
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ML is a good OS. OP is delusional.

Lion wasn't that good, that I can agree with.

ML is polished.

What are the issues that you're having?
 

marzer

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Nov 14, 2009
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You can't call it the worst ever without having first used 10.0, 10.1, and 10.2 for at least a month each. 10.0 may take the title as overall worst ever with 10.1 close behind.

It's all subjective I guess. :) I really liked 10.2, did not care for 10.3 at all. But I would declare 10.1 "the worst". Does 10.0 really count? I thought that was released in a beta or "public preview" form.
 

MacsRgr8

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Sep 8, 2002
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It's all subjective I guess. :) I really liked 10.2, did not care for 10.3 at all. But I would declare 10.1 "the worst". Does 10.0 really count? I thought that was released in a beta or "public preview" form.

10.0 was a real release. There was a Public Beta released just before it.

This is the way I see the OS X OS'ses:

10 Public Beta: 'nuff said. It's a beta. Fun to play with, not great to actually work with.

10.0: Was also fun to play around with. Terribly slow on the fastest Mac out there at the time (G4 500 MHz IIRC). No DVD player, hardly any 3rd party apps, only Internet Explorer that worked, etc.

10.1: Starting to become usable. There even was an MS Office for Mac that worked natively on this OS (!)

10.2: First time the OS got hardware GPU (Quartz Extreme) acceleration.... This meant faster window-drawing in the Finder etc., which meant less irritatingly slow. OS X was really getting there. A lot more 3rd party apps were available now.

10.3: First real usable OS X. All apps were there and the OS was "snappy" enough to be used mainstream. Even on older G4's.

10.4: Gr8 OS. Very stable and very reliable.

10.5: Universal Binary. OS X 10.5 on Intel screamed. Really superb OS.

10.6: Intel only. Very, very, stable. Very well supported. This version is probably the most "mature" version of OS X. OS X Server 10.6 was the last "real" version of OS X Server.

10.7: Quite a lot of new features: Mac App Store, Versions, Launchpad, etc. First time Apple is moving OS X towards iOS....

10.8: Moving on... more iOS-like features, more iCloud integration. Seems a stable OS.
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
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If i'm not constantly updating this pos, i'm trying to FIX something in it. Nothing opens properly and nothing runs the way it should. This OSX is giving me the worst computer experience ever. I absolutely hate it. Is there any way i can downgrade or something to an OS that doesn't suck completely?

Pre 10.4 releases were the worst IMO. But I agree with you that 10.7 and 10.8 haven't been all that brilliant. 10.4 and 10.6 were the best releases. Shame Apple no longer supports them.

I guess your only choice is to either install an alternative OS (such as Windows or a Linux distro), as installing a previous version of OS X is impossible as far as I am aware.
 

marzer

macrumors 65816
Nov 14, 2009
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10.0 was a real release. There was a Public Beta released just before it.

This is the way I see the OS X OS'ses:

10 Public Beta: 'nuff said. It's a beta. Fun to play with, not great to actually work with.

10.0: Was also fun to play around with. Terribly slow on the fastest Mac out there at the time (G4 500 MHz IIRC). No DVD player, hardly any 3rd party apps, only Internet Explorer that worked, etc.

Oh yeah, that's right. In that case 10.0 and 10.1 both sucked for me. There were networking, printing and other features were missing or just not working well that could be taken for granted in modern OS's.

10.2 was were it really became full-featured and stable for me. 10.3 was a lot of new stuff but really needed some more testing and stability. Which is what Tiger brought to the table.

As I said in a previous posted, my experience has been that every odd release seems to be the new but painful upgrade and the even numbered are more polished and stable follow-on's.
 

MartiNZ

macrumors 65816
Apr 10, 2008
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Yeah careful guys, don't dis 10.1 - it was pretty fantastic. You could still pretty much know what most things in the OS did, and there were clear advances on the way, with haxies providing, for instance, global subpixel rendering antialiasing in 10.1.5, beyond where the default settings allow to this day. It was comfortable, lightweight and had those pretty pinstripes.

The point about clear advances on the way is a pretty important one - and that carried through to about 10.4, and then 10.5 as Intel native at release, and 10.6 with its full 64-bitness (right?) .. and then they ran out of ideas to improve things, and just started changing things, mainly for the worse, in Lion, and so it goes ... and meanwhile I'm really looking forward to the imminent Windows 8 launch :D!
 

MacDawg

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Mar 20, 2004
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Nothing opens properly and nothing runs the way it should. This OSX is giving me the worst computer experience ever. I absolutely hate it.

Sounds like it may be an issue of your expectations of how OSX works v. how you think it should work
Maybe a Mac isn't the best choice for you
 

dmrowley

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Aug 4, 2010
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I smell a troll...

Joined yesterday, 2 posts, go away troll.

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talmy

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Oct 26, 2009
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10.8 fixed my 10.7 issues just as 10.6 fixed my 10.5 issues. 10.5 caused me more problems than any other version. I also used 10.3 and 10.4.
 

Krazy Bill

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Dec 21, 2011
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.. and then they ran out of ideas to improve things, and just started changing things, mainly for the worse, in Lion, and so it goes ... and meanwhile I'm really looking forward to the imminent Windows 8 launch :D!

Looking forward to Win8 as well. (And the ensuing tablets). At least with Windows you pretty much know what you're getting under Metro. And you know 99.99999% of the crap Win7 runs will work just fine.

If anything, I hope it takes a few bricks out of the wall surrounding Apple's garden.
 

Dark Void

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Jun 1, 2011
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Then either return your Mac or state what exact Mac you have, as downgrading is not that easy. 2012 Macs for example cannot run Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard anymore, which is the OS I use, as Mac OS X 10.7 Lion and OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion are not for me.

This is exactly what I did as well, what a refreshing post. When Lion came out I saw no point in upgrading, and even more so when Mountain Lion hit, advertising things like Facebook integration as a major feature.

Snow Leopard is a true, computer-based operating system. Mountain Lion is too much like iOS, it's kind of ridiculous in my opinion but it's what most people prefer I suppose.
 

SDAVE

macrumors 68040
Jun 16, 2007
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The only "iOS" type of feature I use in OS X is Mission Control, even then Exposé was good enough too.

ML is a very solid OS. Reminds me of Snow Leopard, which was very solid.
 

fisherking

macrumors G4
Jul 16, 2010
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ny somewhere
The only "iOS" type of feature I use in OS X is Mission Control, even then Exposé was good enough too.

ML is a very solid OS. Reminds me of Snow Leopard, which was very solid.

from my point-of-view, ML is 'the snow leopard of lion'.
anyway, i NEVER care about the eye candy, the frills. i want to WORK.
and i am getting my work done, on, what is so far the most stable OS i've run...so am happy.
 

throAU

macrumors G3
Feb 13, 2012
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ML for me has been good.

No, it isn't quite as fast as SL, but i'm willing to make the trade-off for the new features.

10.5 is the worst OS X I have used (a few bugs), and that was the first version.

10.7 wasn't great due to the performance problems but they've been mostly fixed by 10.7.4.
 
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