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MisterSavage

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Slowwwwwww. I didn't realize how slow until I got back my iPad Pro 12.9" 2018 from my daughter (got her a iPad Pro 12.9" 2021 from Swappa for Christmas) and DANG! the 2018 iPad Pro is SO FAST!

But it did the basics fine and streamed fine. It just does it slooooowwwww.
I use mine sometimes when my 2018 IPP is charging and it feels unbelievably slow.
 
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Reverend Benny

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These iPads outlive the cases that were sold with.
- My iPad Air 2 still works, but the official Apple case I bought back then looks like ****. Had to throw the case away.
- My 2017 12.9 iPad Pro still works very good but the official Apple case looks like **** too. I use it without a case now since nobody sells cases for this model anymore.

So will the M1 12.9 iPad Pro suffer the same fate and has to be used without a case in the future when no cases for this model are no longer sold? For the amount of money Apple asks for their Apple Magic Keyboard, it better hold better over time than their other Apple keyboard cases.
Have the Logitech combotouch with my 11" M1 and love it. Nice with a built in stand and detachable keyboard. Not sure how it will look in 5 years but it feels like quality material.
 

sracer

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Have the Logitech combotouch with my 11" M1 and love it. Nice with a built in stand and detachable keyboard. Not sure how it will look in 5 years but it feels like quality material.
Love mine too. (I have one for my 9th gen iPad) It adds significant bulk and weight but it really is a well-made and well-designed accessory. By enabling tap to click on the trackpad and disabling mouse pointer animation, I was surprised by how much having a trackpad increased effectiveness for productivity tasks.
 

FeliApple

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Slowwwwwww. I didn't realize how slow until I got back my iPad Pro 12.9" 2018 from my daughter (got her a iPad Pro 12.9" 2021 from Swappa for Christmas) and DANG! the 2018 iPad Pro is SO FAST!

But it did the basics fine and streamed fine. It just does it slooooowwwww.

I use mine sometimes when my 2018 IPP is charging and it feels unbelievably slow.
This is very sad. Comments like these make me see the glass half-full. My 9.7-inch iPad Pro was forced from iOS 9 into iOS 12 four years ago, and battery life has been 30% worse ever since. Honestly, however, performance is excellent. Not much difference with iOS 9, and I know exactly how iOS 9 ran since I had it for three years before it was forced out.

This coupled with the reports of battery life I’ve seen make me grateful about the fact that I was able to keep it on iOS 12 instead of thinking about the loss of iOS 9.

It’s my favourite iPad ever (I have an Air 5, too), and I really don’t like seeing what Apple’s done to it with updates.
 
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eltoslightfoot

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This is very sad. Comments like these make me see the glass half-full. My 9.7-inch iPad Pro was forced from iOS 9 into iOS 12 four years ago, and battery life has been 30% worse ever since. Honestly, however, performance is excellent. Not much difference with iOS 9, and I know exactly how iOS 9 ran since I had it for three years before it was forced out.

This coupled with the reports of battery life I’ve seen make me grateful about the fact that I was able to keep it on iOS 12 instead of thinking about the loss of iOS 9.

It’s my favourite iPad ever (I have an Air 5, too), and I really don’t like seeing what Apple’s done to it with updates.
To be fair, it is 8.5 years old…that’s a pretty good ROI at this point.
 

darngooddesign

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These iPads outlive the cases that were sold with.
- My iPad Air 2 still works, but the official Apple case I bought back then looks like ****. Had to throw the case away.
- My 2017 12.9 iPad Pro still works very good but the official Apple case looks like **** too. I use it without a case now since nobody sells cases for this model anymore.
Are you sure about that?
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So will the M1 12.9 iPad Pro suffer the same fate and has to be used without a case in the future when no cases for this model are no longer sold? For the amount of money Apple asks for their Apple Magic Keyboard, it better hold better over time than their other Apple keyboard cases.
You can usually find a 3rd party case for older iPads; I recently bought one for my 9.7” 2015 iPad Pro.
 

FeliApple

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To be fair, it is 8.5 years old…that’s a pretty good ROI at this point.
While this is unequivocally true, my 9.7-inch iPad Pro honestly works really well, and it is just as old. But yeah, iPads have great lifespans, even if they’re old and updated they can be used for content consumption pretty flawlessly.

Mine on iOS 12 doesn’t support some websites occasionally, but runs fine otherwise.
 
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ChrisA

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I just bought a new 10th generation iPad, but I still have my old 4th-gen iPad. When I looked around for cases for the new iPad, I checked on a replacement for the old iPad. It seems you can buy them on Amazon for $8.

They sell all kinds of cases for older iPads and older phones starting at about $8
 

MisterSavage

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This is very sad. Comments like these make me see the glass half-full. My 9.7-inch iPad Pro was forced from iOS 9 into iOS 12 four years ago, and battery life has been 30% worse ever since. Honestly, however, performance is excellent. Not much difference with iOS 9, and I know exactly how iOS 9 ran since I had it for three years before it was forced out.
I don't look at it that way at all. I had a great run with my 9.7" Pro. I still use my 2018 Pro daily. I don't expect my very old devices to be snappy with the latest in tech advances endlessly.
 

FeliApple

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I don't look at it that way at all. I had a great run with my 9.7" Pro. I still use my 2018 Pro daily. I don't expect my very old devices to be snappy with the latest in tech advances endlessly.
That’s fair. People ultimately have different expectations.

I expect my devices to be perfect forever, so I try to keep them that way.
 
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FeliApple

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It’s interesting how people’s expectations about longevity are very variable. I’ve had the latest iPhone (I bought the iPhone Xʀ when it was the latest), and I have the latest iPad (I have the iPad Air 5 on iPadOS 15), and I’ve frequently stated that as long as my devices work like I want them to, I don’t care if they aren’t the latest, and I don’t even have that itch of “well, maybe it would be cool to have this device“. I really don’t care at all… but don’t mess with my devices.

iPads’ longevity is outstanding, especially for content consumption. Why? Because you don’t need the latest version of iOS and batteries on iPads don’t degrade unless obliterated by iOS updates. I would still be fine with my 9.7-inch iPad Pro. Why am I not? Because Apple forced it into iOS 12. Battery life dropped by 25% and I have slight keyboard lag. That’s enough for me to want a new one, but as long as that isn’t the case, and as long as my device does what I need it to do and has perfect battery life and performance, I’m fine with anything.

I probably wouldn’t be able to use an Air 2 today… why? Because it would have to run iOS 8, and I doubt that’s compatible with what I need today. Maybe I wouldn’t be fine with my 9.7-inch iPad Pro because, likewise, iOS 9 would be too incompatible, but when I said “I’d be fine with it”, I meant with its feature set, not software-wise.

The point is, perhaps I’m the odd one out here, but I want a device that works well, regardless of how old it is, provided it does what I want it to. I use iPads for content consumption, so the task is very easy to fulfill: an original iOS version iPad that’s modern enough so as not to have an unusable web browser and a fully incompatible app suite with great battery life and performance. That’s probably fulfilled by… a 3rd-gen iPad Pro on iOS 12? A 6th-gen iPad on iOS 12? (And anything newer, or course). But iOS 12 is the oldest I’d get today as a main device.

I understand this is fully unpopular, with most choosing total compatibility over a few hours of battery life and the absence of keyboard lag, but the differences of opinion are interesting to share, regarding how many think “well, the device is 8 years old, I updated it, now it’s obliterated, but it gave me what it could”, and my opinion, which is ”I’d rather have that same iPad on iOS 9 doing what it can flawlessly“.

The funny aspect of this is that both iPads end up as insufficient… one had full compatibility throughout with ever-decreasing performance and battery life, and the other one had full performance and battery life with ever-decreasing compatibility throughout. One ends up not being able to run enough things to be useful, and the other one ends up not being able to run enough things to be useful… and also ends up obliterated with a laughably disastrous, unusable performance and battery life.
 
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MarkC426

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The point is, perhaps I’m the odd one out here, but I want a device that works well, regardless of how old it is, provided it does what I want it to. I use iPads for content consumption, so the task is very easy to fulfill
You are NOT the odd one out....;)
I too have an 8 year old iPad Pro which is used daily, mainly for content consumption/email/this forum.

On a side note, my iPad 2 is currently at 23% charge having been on standby for 1928 hours (80 days)...:p
 
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FeliApple

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You are NOT the odd one out....;)
I too have an 8 year old iPad Pro which is used daily, mainly for content consumption/email/this forum.

On a side note, my iPad 2 is currently at 23% charge having been on standby for 1928 hours (80 days)...:p
Standby time of 32-bit iPads is astonishing. It’s sad to see what Apple has done to standby since iPadOS13. I left my 9.7-inch iPad Pro on standby for 6 days and it only dropped to 95%. My iPad Air 5 (on its original iOS version, iPadOS 15), would probably drop way more. I don’t think we’ll see a resurgence of that, even with the alleged chipset efficiency improvements.
 
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darngooddesign

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Standby time of 32-bit iPads is astonishing. It’s sad to see what Apple has done to standby since iPadOS13. I left my 9.7-inch iPad Pro on standby for 6 days and it only dropped to 95%. My iPad Air 5 (on its original iOS version, iPadOS 15), would probably drop way more. I don’t think we’ll see a resurgence of that, even with the alleged chipset efficiency improvements.
I dont think I’ve ever left my iPad alone that long, but if I do I just pop it in Low-Power Mode which helps.
 

subjonas

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You are NOT the odd one out....;)
I too have an 8 year old iPad Pro which is used daily, mainly for content consumption/email/this forum.
Yeah I’m another person who would keep using my devices forever if I could. But the caveat is that none of my devices are perfect—I have a list of things I wish I could change for each device—so when a new version comes out with one or more new features/changes that bring it significantly closer to what I want, I go ahead and upgrade prematurely (before my device stops working well). It happens very very rarely though. Most of the changes are inconsequential or worse to me.
 
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FeliApple

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It’s not. But I’ll take all the OS improvements over long standby time.
Of course, but it shouldn’t be a choice. Speaking about longevity, neither should iOS updates. Why do we have to choose between long-term performance and battery life or OS improvements and compatibility?

Long-term iPad usage in terms of compatibility is great if updated, but not great in terms of battery life and performance, and viceversa if you don’t update. That choice is annoying, because there are bound to be massive drawbacks regardless of your choice.

Luckily, for content consumption updates don’t really matter. I’m using iOS 12 on my 9.7-inch iPad Pro and there’s no difference when compared to an updated iPad. For those of us who use our iPads for that, this is great news.
 

Jackbequickly

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I know people who are suing r year old iPads. It is the battery that will cause problems not the iPad itself.
 
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Pjrufus

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My 6 yr. old iPad Pro suddenly died on me in Nov. I figured that was it for that one. Stores in my area no longer have cellular iPads in stock. Picked up a new one (new, but older model with home button) at T-mobile. I took the old to a local repair guy, figured it was worth a shot but wasn’t hopeful. He had it for over a month, so I was glad to have my backup in the meantime, but I don’t like it as much as the old one. To my amazement, the oldie is fixed.

When I dropped it off For repair, under the bright shop lights I felt embarrassed about the cover on it. Perfectly functional, but a few years old, it was so discolored it looked dirty. Being hopeful again, I checked Amazon, and my favorite case (Durasafe - under $20, much less during Prime Days) is still available. The day I picked up the iPad, I ordered 2 of the cases, because the color selection was thinning down and I was afraid they wouldn’t be around much longer for that model.

I probably spent a small fortune on cases for my first iPad (2010), I even had cases (or sleeves) that the cased iPad went into. I still have many of them.

I do remember 2 cases wearing out, but most of my cases over the years have outlasted my iPads, silicone just looks bad after a time, so they get replaced when I can’t stand looking at them, but I won’t spend big $ on them anymore, and I buy 2 at a time for less than 1 Apple brand case.
 

iwtunx

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Otterbox defender. I have an iPad 2 in the original defender case I got for it, they’re just fine.
Slowwwwwww. I didn't realize how slow until I got back my iPad Pro 12.9" 2018 from my daughter (got her a iPad Pro 12.9" 2021 from Swappa for Christmas) and DANG! the 2018 iPad Pro is SO FAST!

But it did the basics fine and streamed fine. It just does it slooooowwwww.
Where’d you buy yours? There are reports of scammers putting extra modules into ‘refurbished’ ipads that steal data, basically mirror everything remotely when there’s a network connection, storing data on embedded modules for transmission when there is no network connectivity.
 

Reverend Benny

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Otterbox defender. I have an iPad 2 in the original defender case I got for it, they’re just fine.

Where’d you buy yours? There are reports of scammers putting extra modules into ‘refurbished’ ipads that steal data, basically mirror everything remotely when there’s a network connection, storing data on embedded modules for transmission when there is no network connectivity.
Do you have any decent links with these reports?
 

eltoslightfoot

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Otterbox defender. I have an iPad 2 in the original defender case I got for it, they’re just fine.

Where’d you buy yours? There are reports of scammers putting extra modules into ‘refurbished’ ipads that steal data, basically mirror everything remotely when there’s a network connection, storing data on embedded modules for transmission when there is no network connectivity.
Had it for several years. I bet if you compared it to an iPad Pro 12.9" 2018, it would disappoint. :) No strange mystery needed.
 
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