I have it working but it is really touchy. I had to open it from the macOS file. I must have a problem with other software loaded it does not like.
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Trust me, there's nothing wrong with ChronyControl on macOS Sonoma on Apple Silicon.
Yes I have it running. However it does not load as I expect it too. There is an issue with My machine and CC's Config file. I had to load the software from the macOS, ChronyCrone File. If I try to load the utility from its icon it doesn't exactly lock up my computer but it continually cycles in and out. I am unable to restart normally and I physically have to reboot my machine. I have expectations on how software should run and at least on my machine ChronyCrone does not meet those standards. But it is running,Trust me, there's nothing wrong with ChronyControl on macOS Sonoma on Apple Silicon.
I found out that my favorite Zip opening software has a Mac version. "UnZip One". I used it to open ChronyContro's zip file and this is what it reported.
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Just got off of the phone With Apple support. I am not going to have an issue with my time base because I never shut down my computers they run 24/7 and they go on standby after a couple of hours. I have been watching my computer clock on the "Official U.S Time" web page Gov Time and in over and hour it never got over +0.033 seconds off, and I watched the Mac refresh the time and it dropped to +0.0002. This has been a real learning experience for me. My Windows machine were never this accurate without help from an external application.
There is one thing that would be nice that you have in Windows time sync software they can be set to use the time base from others on FT-4, FT-8. This is really handy when you do not have access to on online time server.
There is one thing that would be nice that you have in Windows time sync software they can be set to use the time base from others on FT-4, FT-8. This is really handy when you do not have access to on online time server.
Good luck with that. I’ll be interested to see how it goes after a few days.
I never used to shut down my iMac but starting with Big Sur, I found that regularly I’d wake it up and it would be far enough out that my FT4/8 wouldn’t decode. Up until Big Sur, it was never an issue before Bug Sur but every version since has given me problems without third party correction. macOS does correct but it can take a few minutes. If you’ve not already seen my piece about it, have a read here.
I have no idea why you can’t unzip Chronycontrol. I’ve just downloaded a copy of the installer to check and I can unzip it using either the built in unarchive tool or betterzip. Perhaps you have a bigger underlying issue you should be looking at, I don’t know.
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I was reading about Chrony Control on a page talking about its installation. I have already found the configuration file is what is causing the problem. Trying to open this application normally invokes the configuration file and that causes the weirdness I looked at this webpage it isted what CC was loading on the Mac. I realized these were the files contained in the macOS folder. I installed each one separately a terminal window opened on each one indicating an successful installation. I clicked on the Chrony Control icon and it opened normally. I am not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. Whoops forgot to sync CC with the Apple time server. new screen shot.
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Over the many years on macOS I learned, that more people know and work to "fix" macOS, bigger problem they cause. MacOS should simply work and if we have to do what you seem to be doing (I assume you are starting app from inside bundle), more troubles we get into.
1. MacOS DOES NOT need separate unzip program. For zip/unzip, just use Finder. Why? It works AND zip programs are major source of viruses and malware on any platform. So unless you REALLY need more complicated zip features (password protection seems the only common one), do not install any zip tool. Reputable sources of zip apps have been taken over by malware distributors and trusting them can get you in trouble. Minimize your profile here...
2. If program reports it is damaged, throw it away and download new archive from verified source. Not worth wasting time on this and again, it is possible malware is involved.
... I have seen this message few times when the app was OK, but macOS was declaring it malware or it was blocked by macOS for other reasons... Not sure how I fixed it in the end. It got complicated.
3. If program does not start from icon, do not start executable from within the bundle - delete and reinstall. Something is wrong with its settings/environment and it will likely not work right anyway. Installation did not proceed correctly?
If you cannot install the program - and it is suppose to work on your OS version - delete the file and treat/heal system first, then install again. Something is wrong and that is bigger problem than one app not running. Typical steps would be restart and if that does not work, reinstall macOS over the current system (non destructive), and if that does not work, backup data (which you should always do anyway), delete user and create new user (= old wipe and reinstall from fresh) - there is Apple description for this. And restore or install from scratch.
Overall, unless things go right with installation of all apps and things work normally, you will always fight with weird behavior more and more, and keep pulling your hair. It is best way to go mental, especially if you want robust system running 100% of time, as you do. Small weirdness has way of becoming large craziness.
I went this path of "fixing" app/problem few times and every time I wasted too much time before giving up and fixing system (reinstall usually) - life is too short, it was never worth it. Hope you'll get it running soon.
This whole journey has been very educational for me. Being a ham radio operator we have alway been more or less big on accurate time. Even before the digital modes time sync between radios was important. I come from over 40 years of dealing with MicroSoft based machines, starting with MSDOS. My last Apple computer before this Mac Studio was an 1984 Apple ll, it used a IBM Unix based OS, Apple still does but if we had seen what it is today back in the 1980's we have been shocked. I finally deleted Chrony Control I have no idea why it is not opening correctly. It turns out resetting everything in the Date and Time section did the trick I don't need any external time management software. In my self education I did learn about the troubles people have with earlier macOS on time keeping. It would seen that Sonoma is doing a good job of managing the clock on My Mac Studio.
This is what Time.Gov showed about the MacStudio's clock after the computer had been been on standy for about 8 hours.
This is what Time.Gov showed about the MacStudio's clock after the computer had been been on standy for about 8 hours.
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And I'll say again, good luck with that.
From Big Sur onwards, the way macOS synchronises the time has changed. If you leave your Mac asleep, occasionally, when it wakes up, the time will be far enough off that FT4/FT8 will not work properly. The native OS will bring the clock back in but it will take a while, it's not instant.
ChronyControl DOES work on Apple Silicon. I have no idea what you're doing to stop it working but comments like this make no sense to me.
I have no idea what you're doing and how you're trying to run ChronyControl but it really should be as simple as downloading it, unzipping it and chucking the .app file into your applications folder. You shouldn't have to be faffing about to make it run.
What @Honza1 says above is absolutely spot on.
Other that being somewhat new to macOS I have been using computer since about 1970. I have been through years of machine language when the dreaded "syntax" error would pop on in your coding. These days with all of the years of writing GUI's it is not up to me to scope out why something does not load properly. So what is happening it is not my fault. It isn't anything I am doing. If this was My Windows machine I have a sub-routine that reports what the problem is but I don't think Apple has anything like that.
Here it the latest clock setting NIST Time is reporting on my Mac Studio.
Oh, the rabbit hole you can dive into on macOS is deep and full of useful tools. It is, in the end, UNIX system with most bells and whistles you may be used to from Linux. You can start app in terminal session (I mean both GUI app as well as executable from the bundle) and watch the messages to terminal, if they exist. You can always watch messages in Console and try to decipher those. Good luck, documentation for app messages is generally non existent...
Compared to Windows, macOS has at least as many tools as Windows, if not more.
Do not bother, waste of time. While macOS is overly complicated by now and things sometimes do not work, it generally works more robustly than Windows. Try to use it as appliance and it should work. It may not, but in that case you have system issue. Happens. Life... There are solutions. Good luck.
NTP is the "standard" protocol for time sync. You can get to at least 100 milliseconds of accuracy over WiFi. With much effort, you can get to better than 1 millisecond.
NTP is already part of MacOS, Windows and Linux and every OS I've used in the last 20+ years. It is universal. Usually, on a desktop system, it runs once at boot up. What you want is to run it continuously in the background. You need to install the full-up NTP system from either MacPorts of "home-brew". Then let it run for an hour or so and you will see that you system close is within some tens of milliseconds of the actual time.
NTPd runs continuously. It never "jumps" the time. What it does it slowly adjust the RATE of the system clock, slwing it a very tiny amount if the clock is fast. It can use a large number of Internet time servers and will select the "best" servers. How to choose the "best"? The ones that give the same time are assume "good" and outliers "not good". Which is uses depends on where in the world you are and the connection quality to each server.
NTP ha been the standard way this is done for at least 40 years.
Yes I know all of this. Until I discovered Official US Time and its "Device Check" I did not have a handle on how accurate the clock is sync is maintained on at least with Sonoma, apparently this was not the case with macOS's that preceded this one, High Sierra being singled out. I come from the decades of living in the MicroSoft OS world. It's time keeping seemed to get worse as each successive OS waddled onto the stage.
My present clock sync.
Do you know how the web page calculates the offset? For me (in Australia) it is showing my clock in error by around 140mS.
I have always assumed that the sntp command gives a reasonable estimate - but I may well be wrong.
sntp commands give me:
sntp time.apple.com
+0.002171 +/- 0.072773 time.apple.com 17.253.66.125and similar values for other time servers.
So sntp gives a significantly different result to the NIST web page.