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nappes

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I just can’t believe the 1TB seems to have worse disk performance than the 512GB.

It probably doesn’t matter in the real world but it seems that if you go for the 1TB+ and get more ram and more cpu you lose on disk speed.
 

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I'd say just about no person here worrying about SSD speeds here is going to ever be able to tell a difference which is which.

You probably don't need 2000mbps speeds, just as you probably don't need 1000mbps speeds, and maybe not even 500 mbps.

And if you stop looking at benchmarks, the problem suddenly goes away.
 
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nappes

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You are 100% correct. But now I know. I want 1TB and I’m annoyed that I’m losing more than money by making that choice
 
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Macintosh101

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You are 100% correct. But now I know. I want 1TB and I’m annoyed that I’m losing more than money by making that choice
I mentioned that JazzDisk returned the following sequential results for my 11” 1TB model:

Read: 2844.44 MB/s
Write: 2226.09 MB/s

That’s not quite as high as the 512, but its still good (and much better than the. Base). In real world usage, copying over large files in the Files app etc, it‘s seems fast.
 
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Plx32

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The only way to stop Safari tabs from reloading is to keep Safari always active with Split View.

In that case, RAM is never an issue (8GB or 16 GB) and tabs don’t reload, exactly like on a Mac.

The fact that this behavior is the same on 16 GB RAM iPads makes me wonder if Apple didn’t do this on purpose for Safari on iPadOS in order to continue to sell Macs…
 

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The only way to stop Safari tabs from reloading is to keep Safari always active with Split View.

In that case, RAM is never an issue (8GB or 16 GB) and tabs don’t reload, exactly like on a Mac.

The fact that this behavior is the same on 16 GB RAM iPads makes me wonder if Apple didn’t do this on purpose for Safari on iPadOS in order to continue to sell Macs…
It doesn’t seem to have the same behaviour on my 16gb model. When I tested the base vs the 26gb side by side, the tabs didn’t reload on the higher spec model.
 

Plx32

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It doesn’t seem to have the same behaviour on my 16gb model. When I tested the base vs the 26gb side by side, the tabs didn’t reload on the higher spec model.
Even when you switch to another app for at least 2 minutes, then come back to Safari ?

Safari doesn’t refresh if you switch between apps immediately, but there is definitely a behavior on iPadOS that makes it refresh if you stay out of Safari for at least one or two minutes, with it in the background.

And it’s not all tabs or websites that refresh, but some definitely do, when they don’t have that kind of behavior on MacOS. At least, it’s what I noticed on all iPads models so far.

And they definitely don’t refresh at all, even with a very long session, if you keep Safari active. That’s why I suspect it to be an iPadOS issue and not a RAM issue.
 
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rui no onna

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Even when you switch to another app for at least 2 minutes, then come back to Safari ?

Safari doesn’t refresh if you switch between apps immediately, but there is definitely a behavior on iPadOS that makes it refresh if you stay out of Safari for at least one or two minutes, with it in the background.

And it’s not all tabs or websites that refresh, but some definitely do, when they don’t have that kind of behavior on MacOS. At least, it’s what I noticed on all iPads models so far.

I’ve done that—watched YouTube for a while then went back to Safari and my tabs didn’t reload (M1/16GB). Maybe the webpages I visit just aren’t prone to reloading.
 

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Even when you switch to another app for at least 2 minutes, then come back to Safari ?

Safari doesn’t refresh if you switch between apps immediately, but there is definitely a behavior on iPadOS that makes it refresh if you stay out of Safari for at least one or two minutes, with it in the background.

And it’s not all tabs or websites that refresh, but some definitely do, when they don’t have that kind of behavior on MacOS. At least, it’s what I noticed on all iPads models so far.

And they definitely don’t refresh at all, even with a very long session, if you keep Safari active. That’s why I suspect it to be an iPadOS issue and not a RAM issue.
What do you mean by "keep Safari active"? Does it means you have to keep using the iPad with display on or disable auto-lock? Or do you mean not to use other apps while the display auto locks itself (e.g. after 5 minutes of inactivity)?
 

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What do you mean by "keep Safari active"? Does it means you have to keep using the iPad with display on or disable auto-lock? Or do you mean not to use other apps while the display auto locks itself (e.g. after 5 minutes of inactivity)?
I just meant during one session of using the iPad (with the display on).

Safari on iPadOS is so bad that it reloads on certain websites when you switch between apps with the display always on.
Even with an iPad Pro with 8 GB RAM. This is not an auto-lock issue I’m talking about.

If the display auto-locks, then yes I would expect these tabs to reload after the screen turning back on, like it does with iOS on the iPhone.
 

Macintosh101

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I just meant during one session of using the iPad (with the display on).

Safari on iPadOS is so bad that it reloads on certain websites when you switch between apps with the display always on.
Even with an iPad Pro with 8 GB RAM. This is not an auto-lock issue I’m talking about.

If the display auto-locks, then yes I would expect these tabs to reload after the screen turning back on, like it does with iOS on the iPhone.
So I just tested this. I opened 20 tabs on Safari and then used other apps for 5+ minutes, including some quite intensive apps like Logic Pro. Upon returning to Safari the tabs were all still open and loaded (this is on the 16GB model) 👍🏼
 

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So I just tested this. I opened 20 tabs on Safari and then used other apps for 5+ minutes, including some quite intensive apps like Logic Pro. Upon returning to Safari the tabs were all still open and loaded (this is on the 16GB model) 👍🏼
That's also my experience with a M1 8GB iPad pro. Things may change if you leave the iPad unused for a much longer period.
 
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GMShadow

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I’ve done that—watched YouTube for a while then went back to Safari and my tabs didn’t reload (M1/16GB). Maybe the webpages I visit just aren’t prone to reloading.

Agreed, there's probably some poorly behaved websites that Safari kills for battery life reasons.
 

AppleFeller

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lol this whole thread is just showing me how iPad os needs a functional overhaul to be less iOS and more macOS in terms of background app handling and multitasking ability. There’s way too much uncertainty around how a background app will be handled or if your app will stay open in the background or if it’ll close. Just shouldn’t be the case with the hardware now in these things since M1. Apple I get it isn’t a Mac but it’s also not a iPhone nor is this the iPad from 2010 with iPhone hardware inside. iPadOS needs to grow up from a technical and framework perspective.
 

GMShadow

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lol this whole thread is just showing me how iPad os needs a functional overhaul to be less iOS and more macOS in terms of background app handling and multitasking ability. There’s way too much uncertainty around how a background app will be handled or if your app will stay open in the background or if it’ll close. Just shouldn’t be the case with the hardware now in these things since M1. Apple I get it isn’t a Mac but it’s also not a iPhone nor is this the iPad from 2010 with iPhone hardware inside. iPadOS needs to grow up from a technical and framework perspective.

It's not about hardware power, it's about battery life.
 

rui no onna

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Give us a high-power mode then like MacBook Pros have then. Have a pop up that says "btw this will reduce battery life, u sure?" and then let processes continue in the background when in that mode.

I’d like this.

Honestly, all I’d mostly need is background downloads for videos and comics. This shouldn’t be too demanding but currently, iPadOS kills those after 10 minutes in the background.

Meanwhile, entire series purchased/redeemed via iTunes store downloads in the background just fine.
 

Bubble99

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lol this whole thread is just showing me how iPad os needs a functional overhaul to be less iOS and more macOS in terms of background app handling and multitasking ability. There’s way too much uncertainty around how a background app will be handled or if your app will stay open in the background or if it’ll close. Just shouldn’t be the case with the hardware now in these things since M1. Apple I get it isn’t a Mac but it’s also not a iPhone nor is this the iPad from 2010 with iPhone hardware inside. iPadOS needs to grow up from a technical and framework perspective.

Because browser are not allowed to use more than 2GB of RAM but some other apps are allowed to use more RAM.
 

Bubble99

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I just meant during one session of using the iPad (with the display on).

Safari on iPadOS is so bad that it reloads on certain websites when you switch between apps with the display always on.
Even with an iPad Pro with 8 GB RAM. This is not an auto-lock issue I’m talking about.

If the display auto-locks, then yes I would expect these tabs to reload after the screen turning back on, like it does with iOS on the iPhone.

I’m not sure what others are using for testing but I can easy have 15 tabs open with no reload with 3GB of RAM.
 

Bubble99

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The only way to stop Safari tabs from reloading is to keep Safari always active with Split View.

In that case, RAM is never an issue (8GB or 16 GB) and tabs don’t reload, exactly like on a Mac.

The fact that this behavior is the same on 16 GB RAM iPads makes me wonder if Apple didn’t do this on purpose for Safari on iPadOS in order to continue to sell Macs…

No browser are not allowed to use more than 2GB of RAM that is about 20 tabs open no more than 20 tabs open unless the website is from 2009 when the internet was less bloated.

Well if you running other apps in the background it is going to be less.
 
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