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whenders0n

macrumors member
Original poster
Jan 8, 2004
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beta4 seems to work fine in Safari, but I too get the Spaces problem. Regardless of which action, it doesn't seem to work unless you're in the main space. In console, no commands are being sent (or at least none are being logged) when in a space other than the primary one.

I've noticed after you perform the one change, the spaces "icon" which graphically shows which space you're in seems to hang (same behavior if you push ctrl+ --> and then continue to hold ctrl down). You have to press a button or move the cursor for it to disappear. Not sure if that implies the action is based on a release of the trigger key, or if it's just that the gestures won't work in a space other than the primary one.

Also, had to set gesture as a global bind, as it wouldn't work when specified for the Spaces app only (this makes sense, but just mentioning for people trying to replicate the problem).
The logging should be totally disabled now. Sounds like you may still have some apps running the old input manager. It's important to restart all apps after installing the new input manager. Better yet, log out and back in. Please let me know if switching spaces while in a Cocoa app doesn't work. Best,

wc
 

wordy

macrumors regular
Feb 26, 2008
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Toronto
Ahh, ok, if I put a Safari window in each space it does work as expected. Stupid carbon Finder. Would it be possible to just write some basic cocoa app that would run in the background to catch the global actions?

I don't even use Spaces, so to me the Safari capabilities make this worth it already! :)

One suggestion: would it be possible to put a delay on the interpretation of input? This would allow you to introduce more functionality, with say, rotate right + pinch, or rotate left +swipe down. Basically extending the zoom in + zoom out idea.

I think this is ready for general release.
 

designed

macrumors 6502
Nov 8, 2005
286
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Finland
Ahh, ok, if I put a Safari window in each space it does work as expected. Stupid carbon Finder. Would it be possible to just write some basic cocoa app that would run in the background to catch the global actions?

Oh yeah, forgot that Finder is a Carbon app. Nevermind then.
 

sWaltuo

macrumors regular
May 25, 2007
105
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Hey, this is brilliant! I thought about something like this when I visioned that I'd probably like my MBA to switch Spaces with the three-finger swipe instead of navigating Safari or whatnot.

Will join when I finally get my MBA...

I was thinking this exact same thing earlier this morning. It would be an awesome addition to Leopard's Spaces!!

The possibilities are endless .. [EXCITEMENT]
 

Pukey

macrumors 6502
Jan 7, 2008
424
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Gekkostate
Hey, great idea whenders0n! It's great to see people making really helpful apps like this. Do you foresee this working with many different programs? One I would be curious about is would it work in Flash? It would be really handy to use a swipe to flip through frames.
Keep up the good work!
 

whenders0n

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Original poster
Jan 8, 2004
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Hey, great idea whenders0n! It's great to see people making really helpful apps like this. Do you foresee this working with many different programs? One I would be curious about is would it work in Flash? It would be really handy to use a swipe to flip through frames.
Keep up the good work!

I currently will work with any cocoa app. Not sure if Flash is cocoa or not - anyone?
 

Pukey

macrumors 6502
Jan 7, 2008
424
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Gekkostate
I currently will work with any cocoa app. Not sure if Flash is cocoa or not - anyone?

I thought it would be easy enough to find the language that was used to program Flash on the information superhighway, but I was wrong. Haven't been able to find it yet.
 

whenders0n

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Jan 8, 2004
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I thought it would be easy enough to find the language that was used to program Flash on the information superhighway, but I was wrong. Haven't been able to find it yet.

Sadly, my guess is it probably isn't. Most cross-platform apps are written in Carbon or Java.
 

higgalls

macrumors 6502
Mar 20, 2008
284
43
Hey,

Please excuse my ignorance. I am new to the Mac world (I bought a Macbook Pro a few days ago).

What are Cocoa and Carbon apps? Why won't Multiclutch work with Carbon apps?

Also, any idea when the next version will be available?

Cheers,
Chris :)
 

nagromme

macrumors G5
May 2, 2002
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What are Cocoa and Carbon apps? Why won't Multiclutch work with Carbon apps?

Oversimpified, approximate answer:

Carbon apps are generally apps that existed before OS X, and use APIs from the Classic Mac OS heritage. Cocoa apps are generally newer apps, using NeXT-derived APIs (NeXTstep being a predecessor of OS X).

Carbon apps are generally just as good as Cocoa apps, but they do have certain limitations.
 

james.b

macrumors newbie
Mar 23, 2008
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Ok, so apparently it doesnt work with CS3 because it is carbon, not cocoa.

However it did work or me, rather intermittently. FYI I have a penryn 2.5 with wacom intuos 3 tablet 6 x 11.

Does anyone know the conditions it does work in, because I had to restart and it suddenly stopped working. I am getting annoyed as it as working so sweeet.

Regards

James
 

nagromme

macrumors G5
May 2, 2002
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Just read about your laptop theft, whenders0n. Wow--that's terrible! Sorry to hear about that. I hope you didn't lose the only copy of any important data. What a pain having to change passwords etc.--my friend had a laptop stolen last year and it was a nightmare. She lost all her personal photos, all her Word docs, and her music collection.

I think if you report the theft to Apple they will add your serial number (which they can find from your order or registration) to a database. Then if anyone ever brings the thing in for service to Apple, the authorities can be notified. Not sure where I heard that, but it's worth checking on.

I got my Air, so I'm sure I'll be giving your app a shot soon!
 

higgalls

macrumors 6502
Mar 20, 2008
284
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Hey,

What is the link to the most current version of Multiclutch?

I downloaded one from the website, but it doesn't set up any default ones in the global at all (the developer says there should be 4 default ones, aren't there?).

Has anyone else picked up development of this also, since the source code is available? Any idea when the next version will be available?

Sorry for all the questions.

Cheers,
Chris
 
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