I used to build windows machines starting with the 386 series. I'm familiar with Windows and used both Macs and PCs for years until 2007 when I switched to a Mac-only environment because I found it to be a much more pleasurable, and expedient, OS to work in for my purposes. I understand people get defensive but nothing I said in my previous posts was arrogant or ignorant of the alternative solutions. (well except that one reply that was obvious sarcasm)
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Looks like the end of the road for mac pro
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I used to build windows machines starting with the 386 series. I'm familiar with Windows and used both Macs and PCs for years until 2007 when I switched to a Mac-only environment because I found it to be a much more pleasurable, and expedient, OS to work in for my purposes. I understand people get defensive but nothing I said in my previous posts was arrogant or ignorant of the alternative solutions. (well except that one reply that was obvious sarcasm)
Right, but then you work outside of that software for everything else the experience, especially with Windows 8, was an entirely different, and frustrating for some of us, experience. That other % of time out of software actually matters to some.
Stick to proprietary Apple Products if it makes you happy (but poorer nontheless), however it doesnt necessarily make it a better experience if you know what you are doing. Im pretty happy to know if something craps out on my PC I can probably fix it, with a Mac (Pro excepted) you keep your fingers crossed every day you turn it on. This is precisely what prompted me to sell off my 2013 i7 Imac and get a 2010 Mac Pro. I dont know about others but I care about how I spend and save my hard earned.
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If you're that disconnected with at least 50% of the computer using public, then maybe you don't really have enough perspective to be going on the way you are?
what the hell are you going on about? He was talking about musicians and visual artists that would lose it if they had to use another operating system. Musicians and visual artists that assumingly arr using software that requires proficiency in basic computing.
You seem to have a greatly exaggerated idea of the computer proficiency level of the general public. And as far as the general public goes, in my experience working with a lot of artistic types, they often have the most difficult time with computers. Computers are governed by rules. Artistic types like to break rules.
This is one of the reasons Macs have traditionally appealed to artistic types... Macs seem a little less governed by rules than Windows computers. You can call b.s., but if you spoke to an Apple OS engineer, they could list dozens of subtle differences that they believe make using a Mac seem a little easier. This sometimes gets lost on people who simply see it as a difference between using the Dock versus the Task Bar.
Unfortunately, elegant subtleties in UI are lost when the WiFi doesn't work, the Search function looks on the Internet instead of the local hard drive, previously critical productivity apps/tools are rudely EOL'ed, and form factors changed to "look pretty" at the cost of basic capability and productivity...
...but worry not: we now have a middle finger emoji.
...but worry not: we now have a middle finger emoji.
Get ACMT trained and you will be able to troubleshoot your Mac just as well as the techs at the store.
Have you not worked with proprietary PCs such as Sony or Compaq?
Hear, hear. I've worked in offices and individually with all kinds of design professional who sit in front of a computer all day doing high level, high end work. And to them, the computer is some scary metal box filled with magic. Once you get them outside of the few programs they excel at, watching them use a computer is like watching an illiterate person navigate an unfamiliar city using written directions. But I'm okay with that, keeps me employed.
So when it comes to operating systems, best to keep these folks on the one they are familiar with. And that is usually Macintosh.
That may have been true at one time, but sales figure from Adobe and other creative suite vendor are demonstrating that this isn't the reality today.
huh? then your post isn't based on facts but on what you do believe?
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Apple was self satisfied with the trash can, but all the Pro Users I know rolled their eyes and whinced about the lackluster specs of it.
But the managers and the execs thought that it was shiny and wanted one on their desks.
Ohhh.... Shiny.
Apple does not own a factory in the US for making the nMP - it's a contract deal with Flextronics which owns and runs the factory.
The factory could very quickly be repurposed to make the summer line of watch bands.
I bought one, initially being happy with the concept of a minimalist VM lab - 64GB RAM and 6 cores in a small package. Just add a bit of external storage. The problem was the 'just add a bit of external storage' Compared to a regular tower computer I ended up with loads of different bits of storage all over my office and used a ton of power sockets. It was just very messy.
I ended up selling it after 3 years and going back to a PC. got plenty of internal storage, a load of free power sockets and a clean desk now. And it's also a lot faster.
My prediction is that when they release the new Mac Pro, it won't be what us Pro users need and the sites that have instructions on making Hackintoshes will be flooded with viewers looking at Windows hardware to flash with the OS X.
Heck, I think that's happening already since they announced another year, 2019, to wait until they release the upgraded Mac Pro.
Heck, I think that's happening already since they announced another year, 2019, to wait until they release the upgraded Mac Pro.
I've never had a desktop hardware failure of any kind save a few sticks of bad (third party) RAM in any Mac I've ever had; that's 14 Macs and 25+ years of ownership. For a non-mobile machine that's simply not a concern for me.
Personally I think they are over-thinking the problem. Most of us just want something that looks like a PC, has components we can swap out as we want, and runs Mac OS with full support from Apple. That's it. Nothing else.
I hope that they 're just overthinking it and not delaying/postponing on purpose.
I fear it's more likely they're over-obfuscating the mMP. I really hope I'm wrong, but I can see the new mMP being modular, but the modules will only be available from apple. You want a different graphics card? Three module options available from apple. Want to put your own card in? Do one. They won't want people putting their own stuff in like the cMP. Hope I'm really, really wrong though.
I hope you are wrong too, but sadly I think you are probably spot on.