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Looks like the end of the road for mac pro
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Another issue related to workstations is that companies are now starting to take advantage of thin clients and let their creative software run on powerful servers in the cloud. It's much easier and cheaper to increase 'on demand' compute power that way. That's the future of computing anyway.
http://digitalartsonline.co.uk/news...launch-boosts-virtualised-graphics-workflows/
I don't know much about Hackintosh, but is it pc body with mac os? Sorry I'm not the tech guy...what does that mean?
Yep. It's PC hardware with Mac OSX installed. Some say the disadvantage is in every new OSX updates, bugs happen. But the lower price cost and adequate speed makes this appealing to some users. And the hardware can also be upgraded.
But none of that makes any business sense.
The OS became "free" in order to drive the installed base towards less fragmentation. For devs that rely on upgraded OSes to drive paid upgrades, this was good. It drives computer replacement, too.
The Mac Pro's eventual demise is just the symptom, not the problem. The problem is that there's no more growth in PCs. Apple's Mac business hasn't grown in any way remotely similar to it's iOS business. Guess where the R&D goes? Not to the stagnant division.
that's sounds all and dandy...but i guess i'm just a mac guy....and found eBay for 1699....is it good? 2012 6 core 16gb 1 tb.....3.33ghz radeon 5770...?
Like it has been said on this site for years, Apple is only after the $ if the $ is substantial. Some of the decisions seem very questionable unless you have all the privileged information. Years ago when Apple purchased Nothing's Real's Shake (a compositing app), you would think it was done to compete with The Foundry's Nuke. Apple changed the direction from which Nothing's Real's engineers were headed. Apple attempted to turn Shake into a silly version based on their Motion app! It didn't fly and the Nothing's Real engineers left Apple and went to work at the Foundry. Years ago Apple also purchased a company that made a color correction app called Color. It was to compete with BlackMagic Design's DaVinci Resolve. Someone at Apple was delusional if they thought that slapping the Apple name and logo on that app was going to cut into BMD's share! Seems as if anything Apple does "Pro" they water down thinking it will sale more. It ends up not competing with the "real" pro items!
So Apple, all that glitters cannot be turned into gold!
There's plenty of growth in PCs. When people say there isn't they are looking at sales in already saturated markets in the developed world and ignoring the fact that a few billion people do not even own a computer and that there are a few billion more people estimated to exist on our little planet by 2060.
The trick is how can we make computers more widely available but also extremely energy efficient so they do not contribute to increased climate change and conflicts over energy sources. To that end we need distributed cloud computing and thin clients, so we should welcome the demise of high energy consumption workstations. So the Mac Pro dies, but that doesn't mean professional computing dies on the OSX platform. That's where Apple can take advantage of PC user base by allowing them to install OSX.
There is a transitional period between today's computers and tomorrow's thin clients. We are in that transition now because the end solution isn't ready yet for the masses - we need more connectivity, more bandwidth, more efficiency. It will take at least 10 years more. After that you won't care for workstations, gaming consoles or graphics cards. You will simply purchase on demand compute power when you need it.
What will an OS look like by that time? An artificially intelligent assistant will help with the settings and providing information. On the front end you will only see an app launcher and app switcher and a few notifications. By and large the OS will simply be a background service that you won't notice much. You will certainly not be wasting so much time with things like 'files and folders'. That type of file management will be replaced with something that feels much more natural, contextual and integrated into your life.
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LMAO...i hear you.Like it has been said on this site for years, Apple is only after the $ if the $ is substantial. Some of the decisions seem very questionable unless you have all the privileged information. Years ago when Apple purchased Nothing's Real's Shake (a compositing app), you would think it was done to compete with The Foundry's Nuke. Apple changed the direction from which Nothing's Real's engineers were headed. Apple attempted to turn Shake into a silly version based on their Motion app! It didn't fly and the Nothing's Real engineers left Apple and went to work at the Foundry. Years ago Apple also purchased a company that made a color correction app called Color. It was to compete with BlackMagic Design's DaVinci Resolve. Someone at Apple was delusional if they thought that slapping the Apple name and logo on that app was going to cut into BMD's share! Seems as if anything Apple does "Pro" they water down thinking it will sale more. It ends up not competing with the "real" pro items!
So Apple, all that glitters cannot be turned into gold!
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First, there's no taking advantage of people installing OS X on millions of PCs. That is pure fantasy land, for all kinds of obvious reasons. Second, you're essentially agreeing with me about PC growth. The third world isn't going to be full of folks buying desktops and laptops. They'll buy phones. That's what people do when they can't afford it all.
None of that matters as it relates to Mac Pros, beyond that the market for them is small and not growing. Apple bet on people being ready to upgrade thei cMPs, and they were wrong. People can argue about why, but Apple will just do what any prudent business would do: maximize return to shareholders.
First of all don't use the term 'third world'. It's a Cold War term that isn't used in any legitimate discourse since 1990. The term now used is 'developing world'.
Secondly, please don't patronise us coloured people as being a bunch of dumbasses who can't use anything more complex than a mobile phone. Across Asia and Africa many people are the outsourced employees for media production, coding software, designing websites, and moderating all the junk westerners post on social networks. And we have our own computing and entertainment sectors that are always growing too.
Thanks.
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Pixar Studios comes to mind.
Despite your interpretation of why there are no new Mac Pro's at the event, BMD is still committed to developing for it. From the CEO down to the developers who added the nMP support since version 10. I would certainly not tell by visiting their website where it is prominently shown with DaVinci Resolve.
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/power
I find it quite laughable, just because Apple's not showing the nMP in one photo, that the whole nMP is doomed. Just like the rest of Apple, right?
Oh, by the way, when you click on the link by the photo to compare Mac models, the Mac Pro is shown along with the other product lines. But I'm guessing nobody went that far...lol....oops!
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What a ridiculous response. You're reading things that aren't there, and projecting yourself more than a little. You've got a weak grasp on the business side of things. Do you know why poor people buy phones instead of desktops? Obviously not, from what you've said. And poor people just happen to come from all kinds of societies. They buy phones because a phone is the closest any one device comes to doing it all. When you have to pick one, you pick whatever is most versatile. It's called being sensible.
I know this because I work in adult basic education. I deal with those living in poverty every day. A huge portion of the poor here have smartphones. That pattern will continue in the third world, too. Even if it offends your rather raw sensitivities.
It's why companies like Apple are focusing on mobile. That's where the growth is.
Of course we went that far and the nMP comes on the page when you click "Mac" at the top of the page. This post would not be as fun if there was no conspiracy theorist angle!
I don't really see the Mac Pro going anywhere. I think of it as the following: Pro users who are interested in/need the nMP will know where to find it - on the top of the page in the navigation bar.
No need for stuffing the Pro in everyday consumers face: it's simply not meant for them.
Remember all the questions in here - "shall I get a maxed out iMac or the nMP?" To avoid confusion, they simply got it off the spotlight. Because let's face it: A Mac Pro isn't anything the average parent needs for surfing & Netflix.
No need for stuffing the Pro in everyday consumers face: it's simply not meant for them.
Remember all the questions in here - "shall I get a maxed out iMac or the nMP?" To avoid confusion, they simply got it off the spotlight. Because let's face it: A Mac Pro isn't anything the average parent needs for surfing & Netflix.
More like doesn't respect. That trashcan mac pro was just a ruse.
My bad. I guess... Maybe it's time to look for alternative, huh? Tryna seek a better Mac Pro but it sounds like cMP is the path....
Either that or hackintosh... unless of course Apple gets its head out of its ass.
Noise levels and size. Thats about the only thing the trash can mac pro does better. Everything else is a failure. The lack of a standard PCIe slot is the final kiss of death. Won't ever bother buying one if I can't upgrade the GPU for something far batter with an Nvidia chip (AMDs are awful).
I honesty don't know in sense spec wise but I just know you could add 4 slots of ssd , memory and graphic cards. Other than I have no idea.
Exactly what Appke PR department would post if they weren't out selling watches.
Who do you believe, you're lying eyes or us?