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scaredpoet

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Apr 6, 2007
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Ugh, this guy is just whoring for ad revenue at this point. Why is anyone paying him any attention anymore?

(And no, I don't care thatn the Note 4 bends if you deliberately bend it, just like it's not news that an iphone will bend if you deliberately bend it.)
 

wxman2003

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Apr 12, 2011
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Ugh, this guy is just whoring for ad revenue at this point. Why is anyone paying him any attention anymore?

(And no, I don't care thatn the Note 4 bends if you deliberately bend it, just like it's not news that an iphone will bend if you deliberately bend it.)

I agree. Unfortunately, he is here to stay. Of course, his revenue from this video will not be as high as his iPhone 6 bending video. He is just trying to make himself look impartial, which he isn't. Guess what, he will bend the iPhone 6S next year at this time too, and make another year's salary with 1 hour of work.
 

mnsportsgeek

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Feb 24, 2009
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The guy has a point. All he's doing is giving the user more information.

And clearly none of you guys have heard of HALT (Highly Accelerated Life Testing) testing before because he is essentially doing a poor man's version of it. He's not saying it will most certainly bend. He's saying it can bend over time or if subjected to enough force.

So we can stop with the stupid comments saying these are useless. Go back to your regular jobs which are just as stupid and irrelevant as this guys.

Is he doing it for the ad revenue? Probably. But who wouldn't?
 

jlake02

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Nov 2, 2008
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Any phone will bend if you try hard enough.. metal ones just might bend a bit easier than plastic (before it snaps).



:apple:
 

Enabledobject

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Apr 27, 2014
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You can tell he's not putting as much effort into bending the Note 4. You can see the screen starting to seperate and then he stops. Then, he says "oh, you can bend it back", then cut scene to a perfectly unmarked phone.
Such BS.
 

kingofwale

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Apr 24, 2010
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You can tell he's not putting as much effort into bending the Note 4. You can see the screen starting to seperate and then he stops. Then, he says "oh, you can bend it back", then cut scene to a perfectly unmarked phone.
Such BS.

Oh, not all this crap again.

take off your tin-hat and go outside a bit. Not everyone is trying to make Samsung look good and Apple look bad.
 

Crichton333

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May 4, 2014
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They need to use that old Gameboy plastic, that guy has seen some hard times and still going strong.
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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From the article:

But the important thing to remember is that under normal, everyday use with a careful owner, none of these devices should bend at all.

Unless you sit on it, stand on it, or run it over, your phone shouldn’t bend at all.


In other news, idiots are idiots, the sky is blue, and eating food is known to abate hunger.
 

iososx

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Aug 23, 2014
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You can tell he's not putting as much effort into bending the Note 4. You can see the screen starting to seperate and then he stops. Then, he says "oh, you can bend it back", then cut scene to a perfectly unmarked phone.
Such BS.

Your uninformed. The force required (Note 3 & 4) is much higher than the point at which the iPhone bends when tested with equipment designed for this type of test.

The Note 3 & 4, are currently the most durable bend resistant phones money can buy. I've carried mine for a year without any problems. It's a great smartphone series. Yet so are my iPhones, just a bit limited in capability.
 

scaredpoet

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Apr 6, 2007
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The Note 3 & 4, are currently the most durable bend resistant phones money can buy. I've carried mine for a year without any problems.

That's funny, because the Note 4 gets released today. Unlikely you've been carrying it around for a year.
 

kingofwale

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Apr 24, 2010
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From the article:

But the important thing to remember is that under normal, everyday use with a careful owner, none of these devices should bend at all.

Unless you sit on it, stand on it, or run it over, your phone shouldn’t bend at all.


In other news, idiots are idiots, the sky is blue, and eating food is known to abate hunger.

so is putting your phone in your pocket "everyday use" or it's under "you are carrying your phone wrong" category?

Way too many reports of bend phones with only 3 weeks since launch. Frankly to me, anything more than 1 for a 1000 dollar phone is too much
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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so is putting your phone in your pocket "everyday use" or it's under "you are carrying your phone wrong" category?

Way too many reports of bend phones with only 3 weeks since launch. Frankly to me, anything more than 1 for a 1000 dollar phone is too much

Wow. You can go ahead and take your words out of my mouth.

I didn't say anyone is carrying it wrong. There article in the OP says what I quoted. I don't suggest that anyone put in their back pocket and sit on any phone. They can but it may deform it after repeated sittings. Common sense says that larger handsets would more easily bend than smaller ones.

My 6 Plus in my front pocket every day. No problems. Could it have been made thicker to make it stronger. Yes. Could a thicker stronger phone still bend. Yes. You want to sit on your phone and abuse the crap out of it, get an Otterbox or Lifeproof case or something.
 

myscrnnm

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Sep 16, 2014
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so is putting your phone in your pocket "everyday use" or it's under "you are carrying your phone wrong" category?

Way too many reports of bend phones with only 3 weeks since launch. Frankly to me, anything more than 1 for a 1000 dollar phone is too much
I would say that putting a phone in your pocket falls under the category of exercising good judgment.

Let's face it, pants, and pants pockets come in all shapes in sizes. Some pants are very loose, others have very shallow pockets, and endless combinations thereof. If you're carrying your iPhone 6 Plus around in your pocket, and you decide to sit down, and you feel a sharp pain in your groin, one should be intelligent enough to know that a significant strain is being put on that device.

We've seen Consumer Reports prove that yes, the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are weaker than some competing phones of similar size; but the most important question is to what degree? If over 99% of users will never experience deformation of their iPhone, it's clearly not a design flaw. Only time will tell. But in the meantime, the only way we can get accurate reports is if people don't act stupid with their phones.

The 6 Plus is a whole different size class than the iPhones that came before it; that doesn't mean you can't put it in your pants anymore, but it does mean you will have to handle it differently.
 

roland.g

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Apr 11, 2005
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Stop or my phone will shoot?

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kingofwale

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Apr 24, 2010
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I would say that putting a phone in your pocket falls under the category of exercising good judgment.

Let's face it, pants, and pants pockets come in all shapes in sizes. Some pants are very loose, others have very shallow pockets, and endless combinations thereof. If you're carrying your iPhone 6 Plus around in your pocket, and you decide to sit down, and you feel a sharp pain in your groin, one should be intelligent enough to know that a significant strain is being put on that device.

We've seen Consumer Reports prove that yes, the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are weaker than some competing phones of similar size; but the most important question is to what degree? If over 99% of users will never experience deformation of their iPhone, it's clearly not a design flaw. Only time will tell. But in the meantime, the only way we can get accurate reports is if people don't act stupid with their phones.

The 6 Plus is a whole different size class than the iPhones that came before it; that doesn't mean you can't put it in your pants anymore, but it does mean you will have to handle it differently.

Priceless.... Instead of asking Apple to build their device on-par with others (or even iPhone 5) so it doesn't bend so easily.

People are now claiming putting phone in the pocket is now "bad judgement"?

Let's not ask what iPhone can do for us, but what we can do for the mighty iPhone
 

myscrnnm

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Sep 16, 2014
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Priceless.... Instead of asking Apple to build their device on-par with others (or even iPhone 5) so it doesn't bend so easily.

People are now claiming putting phone in the pocket is now "bad judgement"?

Let's not ask what iPhone can do for us, but what we can do for the mighty iPhone
When did I say that doing so is bad judgment? I think you need to read what I wrote again.
 

bhags8

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Mar 18, 2012
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You can tell he's not putting as much effort into bending the Note 4. You can see the screen starting to seperate and then he stops. Then, he says "oh, you can bend it back", then cut scene to a perfectly unmarked phone.
Such BS.

Lol this post is hilarious. Grow up.
 

kingofwale

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Apr 24, 2010
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When did I say that doing so is bad judgment? I think you need to read what I wrote again.

I was at Apple Store to get Applecare, and the Apple genius pulled her iphone from her back jean pocket...

I didn't remember if it was a tight jeans, but all I'm saying is.... A product should conform to the ways people use them, not the other way around
 

myscrnnm

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Sep 16, 2014
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I was at Apple Store to get Applecare, and the Apple genius pulled her iphone from her back jean pocket...

I didn't remember if it was a tight jeans, but all I'm saying is.... A product should conform to the ways people use them, not the other way around
Okay. Maybe her jeans were not tight. Maybe she only puts it there when she's at work (and as such, in a standing position).

And it is absolutely ridiculous for you to say that people should never have to change their habits for a certain product. Nearly everything has its tradeoffs. If you get a motorcycle, you shouldn't expect to survive a collision with a car at high speed. If you buy a Maybach 62, don't expect to be able to park in any garage in Tokyo. If you buy a rollerball pen, don't expect it to not dry up. If you buy a mechanical watch, don't expect it to be as accurate as a quartz watch.

You seem to think this is a black and white situation. It's not. You shouldn't expect a 6 Plus to perform the same way as an iPhone 5, because they're not in the same product category. I'm not telling everyone to stop putting their 6 Pluses in their pockets, and I am not criticizing them for doing so. What you have to realize is that each individual circumstance is different; the 6 Plus isn't indestructible, and neither is any other phone.
 

Zinthar

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Jul 10, 2006
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I was at Apple Store to get Applecare, and the Apple genius pulled her iphone from her back jean pocket...

I didn't remember if it was a tight jeans, but all I'm saying is.... A product should conform to the ways people use them, not the other way around

Well technically it does conform to the way you use it when it assumes the shape of you sitting on it.

But seriously, I doubt that Apple really considered that people would put large phones in their back pockets because.... common sense. Going back to flip phones, I've always used a side pocket because I thought it was obvious that sitting on a phone was a very bad idea (and pretty uncomfortable).

Maybe someone should make a pillow-case for back pocket use?
 

kingofwale

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Apr 24, 2010
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Well technically it does conform to the way you use it when it assumes the shape of you sitting on it.

But seriously, I doubt that Apple really considered that people would put large phones in their back pockets because.... common sense. Going back to flip phones, I've always used a side pocket because I thought it was obvious that sitting on a phone was a very bad idea (and pretty uncomfortable).

Maybe someone should make a pillow-case for back pocket use?

how is it not common sense to store a big phone in a biggest pocket you got??

This reminds me when Steve Jobs told people that they are holding their phone wrong. I guess what he meant was "Our engineers had no real life experience on an actual user use their device"

no, I don't put my phone in my back pocket, but its absolutely retarded that Apple didn't see this happening.
 

myscrnnm

macrumors 68000
Sep 16, 2014
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how is it not common sense to store a big phone in a biggest pocket you got??
Maybe the Apple structural engineers working on the iPhone 6/6 Plus also believed it was common sense to not put a long thin and flat piece of glass and metal between a significant amount of one's body weight on a round butt and a seat.
 
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