Love the MBP, but some of this stuff is discouraging

[Pim]

Nobody and nothing is perfect, that's the moral of the story, right?
I saw this video once of a guy who showed the mouse pad button of his new MBP, and noticed that it 'wiggles' when you slightly press the left or right side.
Who cares? It's just a big button! The exact same problem is at hand with screen lid of the MBP. When it's closed, it also can be tilted a bit.
I don't think these two 'imperfections' are realy a design flaw. I'm glad they can be tilted a bit, because I like to believe this make it more durable and shock absorbing.
But that's just me, I guess...

 

[WhySoSerious]

Nobody and nothing is perfect, that's the moral of the story, right?...

Actually, the moral of the "story" is that people are buying a highly complex piece of equipment in which thousands of variables can go wrong with it. don't get so hung up on some of the things that are trivial (such as a key being slightly off-center or the computer freezes/crashes once in a blue moon).

More focus should be spent on the problems that are prohibiting functional operation of the laptop on a daily basis.

Hey, what can i say though...my MBP is perfect in all regards *knocks on wood*.

 

[dmaxdmax]

my MBP is perfect in all regards *knocks on wood*.

Mine too. Like my wife (just ask her).

 

[DA-Steve]

Actually, the moral of the "story" is that people are buying a highly complex piece of equipment in which thousands of variables can go wrong with it. don't get so hung up on some of the things that are trivial (such as a key being slightly off-center or the computer freezes/crashes once in a blue moon).

More focus should be spent on the problems that are prohibiting functional operation of the laptop on a daily basis.

Hey, what can i say though...my MBP is perfect in all regards *knocks on wood*.

I guess it all depends on what you consider a trivial issue. my MBP has a growing list of issues that i cant wait to get fixed.. not a chance in hell i would just accept any of these things just because "nothing is perfect".

 

[kurzz]

Interestingly, when you browse through auto vehicle forums, you see the same type of posts. Granted, we're talking about tens of thousands of dollars versus a few thousand dollars for computers, people still scrutinize everything about their new vehicle all the way down to how the cupholder is not level or how the airflow in the A/C is not even.

Nonetheless, when consumers pay a significant portion of their income on something that would be considered luxury or premium (as are most Apple products), they expect something perfect to justify their week's or month's wage. Just a thought.

 

[WhySoSerious]

I guess it all depends on what you consider a trivial issue. my MBP has a growing list of issues that i cant wait to get fixed.. not a chance in hell i would just accept any of these things just because "nothing is perfect".

care to humor your fellow msg board readers with the "growing list"?

 

[DA-Steve]

care to humor your fellow msg board readers with the "growing list"?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/343736/

Feel free to tell me i should accept these as you type from your perfect MBP.

With the 17% growth in apple laptop sales we're going to need a whole new forum on here dedicated to problems hehe

i love this computer and im not trying to discourage anyone from buying one.. This computer has changed the way i work for the better and as a result increased my income! I cant imagine i will ever go back to a PC.. Is it too much to ask at a very minimum that my $4000 laptop doesnt shock my wrists when i type on it lol

 

[WhySoSerious]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/343736/

Feel free to tell me i should accept these as you type from your perfect MBP.

With the 17% growth in apple laptop sales we're going to need a whole new forum on here dedicated to problems hehe

i love this computer and im not trying to discourage anyone from buying one.. This computer has changed the way i work for the better and as a result increased my income! I cant imagine i will ever go back to a PC.. Is it too much to ask at a very minimum that my $4000 laptop doesnt shock my wrists when i type on it lol

per your request, i come to you typing from my perfect MBP....

I don't want to discredit your claims listed as faults with your own MBP, but some of it just seems to be isolated instances and not a "production line" problem.

The sound of the fans? Eh...i don't think that's a good example. As long as the fan does it's job, so be it. Who cares if it makes a bit of noise...and I know it's not "loud" 100% of the time.

The sound of the hard drive? I guess if your hard drive is actually crashing or causing severe damage to your files it IS an issue, but if not, then why really bother worry?

The shocks to the wrists? Never heard that before. Sounds like you just build up static whereever you are and when you touch the AL, it shocks ya. I don't think it's a fair claim to try and pass blame on the Mac as though it was a design flaw to physicall shock users. lol

The "D" key? This was addressed in my OP.....it's just a minor, cosmetic issue...it shouldn't cause you to go all OCD on it and get teary-eyed.

Again, if you have legitimate issues with the computer, return it and get a Sony or Dell. But you'll have the same issues with those as well.

 

[filmgirl]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/343736/

Feel free to tell me i should accept these as you type from your perfect MBP.

With the 17% growth in apple laptop sales we're going to need a whole new forum on here dedicated to problems hehe

i love this computer and im not trying to discourage anyone from buying one.. This computer has changed the way i work for the better and as a result increased my income! I cant imagine i will ever go back to a PC.. Is it too much to ask at a very minimum that my $4000 laptop doesnt shock my wrists when i type on it lol

See, I don't think problems like that were the point of the post. I mean, other than a sunken in key on the keypad (I guess I would have to see it to see how sunken in it is) and possibly the noise of the fan (which just might be the computer, period -- Macs are pretty quiet compared to a lot of PCs, but they are still running a ton of stuff under a very small hood with minimal ventilation) - those sound like legitimate issues. Your USB devices have issues, which suggests a logic board or motherboard problem (depends on where the USB connections are, I would think motherboard) and your hard drive sounds like it is having issues too.

That's a little more than, "my case isn't perfectly flush and is off by 1mm."

And I agree kurzz - you see the same thing from luxuary car owners. My mom is really into her Mercedes (and she isn't even one of the elite customers, she just gets a new E-Series every few years, yes, yes, I know it's crazy when spending nearly $60K for a car isn't considered elite) and she'll obsess over every little detail, whatever. If it's something internal, a rattle or whatnot - the warranty covers it - but the real expense comes when someone dings the front in the parking lot (the dent was not even noticeable but it was like $400 to repair, and that was with the cheap option that her sales rep hooked her up with for one of the on-site auto guys to do it - the service center wanted over $1000).

 

[DA-Steve]

per your request, i come to you typing from my perfect MBP....

I don't want to discredit your claims listed as faults with your own MBP, but some of it just seems to be isolated instances and not a "production line" problem.

The sound of the fans? Eh...i don't think that's a good example. As long as the fan does it's job, so be it. Who cares if it makes a bit of noise...and I know it's not "loud" 100% of the time.

The sound of the hard drive? I guess if your hard drive is actually crashing or causing severe damage to your files it IS an issue, but if not, then why really bother worry?

The shocks to the wrists? Never heard that before. Sounds like you just build up static whereever you are and when you touch the AL, it shocks ya. I don't think it's a fair claim to try and pass blame on the Mac as though it was a design flaw to physicall shock users. lol

The "D" key? This was addressed in my OP.....it's just a minor, cosmetic issue...it shouldn't cause you to go all OCD on it and get teary-eyed.

The fans are noisy at idle.. so yes ALL of the time.

Again, if you have legitimate issues with the computer, return it and get a Sony or Dell. But you'll have the same issues with those as well.

Google MBP shocks or MBP static.

http://www.appledefects.com/wiki/in..._Shock_from_MBP_while_plugged_in_for_charging
Thankyou but i dont suffer from OCD
Thankyou but i dont suffer from OCD
Thankyou but i dont suffer from OCD

I'd be happy if the "D" key was cosmetic, but when it only works when pressed 90% of the time.. it kinda gets annoying.

I would never trade in my MBP for a dell or sony, i dont know how many times i need to say that... I also find it funny that apple do believe these are significant issues while some members on here dont.

filmgirl -

True, id be happy if my troubles were limited at a screen gap and wonkey key. The reason i've been posting in here is because out of all the issues on here screen gap and wonkey key's are probably the least common to come up on these boards. Every week we're seeing lots of new posts with some serious issues, lots of long time mac users frustrated at the new build qualities.

 

[nre999]

I am pretty tolerant of faults in computers because while given two equally priced, equally spec'ed computers I will always choose based on asthetics, functionality is important.

As a professional that deals with design issue, layout issues, and things that are visually displayed, anything that takes away from how things are represented on a screen or the basic functionality of a computer are cause for alarm.

I would be livid if my screen wasn't right (thanks to the calibration thread it looks fantastic!) or if one of my keys didn't work.

But so long as the core functionality is preserved other minor ailments would be acceptable.

The long and the short of it comes down to what you are tolerant for. I had no problem droppng $3K on my 15.4" SR MBP 2.4 as it was the right tool for the right job.

So I guess that is it.

 

[pufftissue]

Interestingly, when you browse through auto vehicle forums, you see the same type of posts. Granted, we're talking about tens of thousands of dollars versus a few thousand dollars for computers, people still scrutinize everything about their new vehicle all the way down to how the cupholder is not level or how the airflow in the A/C is not even.

Nonetheless, when consumers pay a significant portion of their income on something that would be considered luxury or premium (as are most Apple products), they expect something perfect to justify their week's or month's wage. Just a thought.

Increasing price ---> increasing expectations.

That's all this is.

With the Dells it's more like "wow, it's such a good deal, what can you expect for $800? It ain't perfect, but it's $800 with a 8600GT!!!!!!"