Luminar gets DAM in December 2018

[R2FX]

Prepare to be disappointed. Pretty sure there will be NO Aperture library import, according to their tech folks. Lightroom folks, prepare to be disappointed as well... I think they dumped your DAM dreams as well.

I don't want or need to import my Aperture library into Luminar. I love Aperture to bits and it's where I keep and will continue to keep my processed jpg files.

I don't need round-tripping to other apps or plugins, I'm just looking forward to a more modern, streamlined DAM with a decent editor. Since I use C1 Pro for my Nikons, I'd just want to quickly tweak some iPhone shots and have them sorted. Stock Photos app is extremely clunky and has unfriendly editing UI for my taste.

 

[MCAsan]

If you like the managed library concept of Aperture, you should seriously look at Capture 1 Pro where you can do a managed library, a referenced library (folders outside the database), or even do Sessions (a very small catalog created for the shooting for a special project of customer. Images from Sessions are usually imported into a regular library catalog eventually.

 

[v3rlon]

If you like the managed library concept of Aperture, you should seriously look at Capture 1 Pro where you can do a managed library, a referenced library (folders outside the database), or even do Sessions (a very small catalog created for the shooting for a special project of customer. Images from Sessions are usually imported into a regular library catalog eventually.

So I looked at Capture 1 Pro 11. The one thing that struck me early on was the difficulty with the healing brush.
Add layer
Set it to healing layer
set the source area
paint the healing.

Is there a better way? I bounced around youtube and web searches, but all showed the same thing. Compare this to anything else, and the workflow is clunky at best. I am hoping there is something easy I missed.

 

[R2FX]

If you like the managed library concept of Aperture, you should seriously look at Capture 1 Pro where you can do a managed library, a referenced library (folders outside the database), or even do Sessions (a very small catalog created for the shooting for a special project of customer. Images from Sessions are usually imported into a regular library catalog eventually.

C1 is a child compared to Aperture in this regard - just look how pathetic are the rules for smart folders in C1. Aperture offers far more versatility than C1 plus is waaaay faster with large projects. For editing C1 wins, but I decided long time ago to create separate catalogues based on topic/country, make edits + export final jpgs, backup raw files to external drive and sort jpgs in Aperture. One can only imagine how Aperture would scream on 6-core Mac mini w eGPU ....

 

[OreoCookie]

Ditto. I tried C1 about one year ago, because supposedly its photo management was similar to Aperture. In short, it is not. They have just tacked on the managed mode, but it is layered on top of traditional file management in the UI. None of the alternatives to Aperture that I have tested* offer a managed file workflow. You can already see, too, that the multiplatform strategy is biting some companies in the rear end, because it'd be nice to be able to edit photos on the iPad Pro as well.

* I haven't tried the new Lightroom since I did my testing about a year-and-a-half ago.

 

[R2FX]

Ditto. I tried C1 about one year ago, because supposedly its photo management was similar to Aperture. In short, it is not. They have just tacked on the managed mode, but it is layered on top of traditional file management in the UI. None of the alternatives to Aperture that I have tested* offer a managed file workflow. You can already see, too, that the multiplatform strategy is biting some companies in the rear end, because it'd be nice to be able to edit photos on the iPad Pro as well.

* I haven't tried the new Lightroom since I did my testing about a year-and-a-half ago.

agree! Phase One will have to split the development since the way forward will be Metal 2 and not OpenCL they use now... not sure about Adobe, but lately Apple seems to bend over rather fast to please them so we'll see

 

[OreoCookie]

I think Adobe Photoshop isn't the only app that Adobe is porting to iOS, and that means they have to use current iOS technologies, i. e. Metal. And I reckon they can — and will — port this back to macOS.

 

[MCAsan]

Likely next major MacOS release will support IOS apps running on Mac. So in theory Adobe could code once on IOS/Metal and it would run on IOS and MacOS devices. The question is what is the performance hit for that approach?

 

[robgendreau]

Ditto. I tried C1 about one year ago, because supposedly its photo management was similar to Aperture. In short, it is not. They have just tacked on the managed mode, but it is layered on top of traditional file management in the UI. None of the alternatives to Aperture that I have tested* offer a managed file workflow. You can already see, too, that the multiplatform strategy is biting some companies in the rear end, because it'd be nice to be able to edit photos on the iPad Pro as well.

* I haven't tried the new Lightroom since I did my testing about a year-and-a-half ago.

Lr Classic is still based on a referenced catalog, not a managed one (like Aperture's or Photo's managed libraries). Lr CC sort of uses a managed catalog, but since it's designed for online storage it won't have originals locally, unless you opt for such a setting.

 

[Clix Pix]

I did the trial of Capture One Pro 11 for Sony this past summer and then bought the program but have to admit that I really am not yet at all comfortable in it -- I need to spend much more time than I have so far with it before getting to that point, I suspect. I find myself using Luminar 2018 and good old Aperture for most of my PP work.....

 

[MCAsan]

If I had Sony or Fuji systems I would definitely be running C1P. Hard to beat the value in those special pricing packages.
[doublepost=1541078512][/doublepost]Skylum released the AI Sky Enhancer filter for Luminar.

 

[mlblacy]

Apple Photos has Smart Albums, and I believe they have been there since the beginning.

You can still use the external editors app to get round tripping to Photos in anything that doesn't currently support it. You just have to be satisfied with Apple Photos as a DAM. I continue to like the various editors, including Luminar, on!, and so on. It is either the managing of images or getting to the editor once I find the images in the manager. For something that sure doesn't seem like rocket science, a lot of people keep missing the point.

Glad to hear Photos has the Smart albums. I do know the libraries can be opened in either Aperture or Photos, but have not noodled about too much on the Photos side. I have low expectations for a DAM, I just need it stable, and able to cope with an immense amount of images. With Keywording and Smart Albums, that is all I need (plus ability to edit with external editors). I like Luminar & Aurora, but find it easily heavy handed. Plus, the lack of u-points make it SO much pokier to edit. I do 1000s of images, and every little increment of time adds up. It is frustrating that the new DXO NIK really offers no real improvements, and hobbled some features. The other splinter group from NIK, Skylum, must not have access to the u-point technology/feature.
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If you like the managed library concept of Aperture, you should seriously look at Capture 1 Pro where you can do a managed library, a referenced library (folders outside the database), or even do Sessions (a very small catalog created for the shooting for a special project of customer. Images from Sessions are usually imported into a regular library catalog eventually.

I have heard that. Once the wheels fall off Aperture, or if Photos fails to at least let me muddle forward, it is a contender.